Hey, as every cycle, we have a size problem with the desktop spin:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1000893
So, we need to do the usual excercise and cut stuff until it fits.
In addition to that, we will have a new application installer in F20 ( https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AppInstaller ), which will allow us to properly present and feature applications that are not yet installed. For that reason, the designers working on the app installer, Ryan Lerch and Allan Day, have proposed that we don't install transmission, simple-scan and gnome-photos by default anymore, and instead feature them prominently in the app installer.
Unless there's strong opposition, I'll drop those three from the kickstart file, and we can reevaluate the size issue on Monday.
On Fri, 2013-08-30 at 17:59 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
Hey, as every cycle, we have a size problem with the desktop spin:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1000893
So, we need to do the usual excercise and cut stuff until it fits.
In addition to that, we will have a new application installer in F20 ( https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AppInstaller ), which will allow us to properly present and feature applications that are not yet installed. For that reason, the designers working on the app installer, Ryan Lerch and Allan Day, have proposed that we don't install transmission, simple-scan and gnome-photos by default anymore, and instead feature them prominently in the app installer.
I would just rather have Photos and Image Viewer (eog) by default than Shotwell. (Unless Shotwell's actually going to be updated for GNOME 3?)
On Sun, Sep 01, 2013 at 05:41:56PM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
Ryan Lerch and Allan Day, have proposed that we don't install transmission, simple-scan and gnome-photos by default anymore, and instead feature them prominently in the app installer.
I would just rather have Photos and Image Viewer (eog) by default than Shotwell. (Unless Shotwell's actually going to be updated for GNOME 3?)
Speaking as the main developer of Photos, I don't think that it is ready for prime time, yet. It lacks: - a search provider for GNOME Shell - ability to import content from removable devices, cameras, etc.
So I agree with the proposal to not install it by default for F20.
Cheers, Debarshi
In addition to that, we will have a new application installer in F20 ( https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AppInstaller ), which will allow us to properly present and feature applications that are not yet installed. For that reason, the designers working on the app installer, Ryan Lerch and Allan Day, have proposed that we don't install transmission, simple-scan and gnome-photos by default anymore, and instead feature them prominently in the app installer.
I tried what happens in my F19 if I click a torrent file without having Transmission installed. I was asked whether I want to search for a suitable application, I confirmed. Then nothing happened. I waited 10 seconds, then I clicked the torrent file again. No further dialog. I assumed it's broken, but after two minutes a PK dialog popped up. I guess it was downloading the metadata 50kB/s or something, but no progress was displayed anywhere. The dialog is rather bare:
http://i.imgur.com/lB4mOTP.png
Just out of curiosity, is this going to improve in F20? Is the new app lookup going to be performed by the AppInstaller, with all the new shiny stuff, rather than plain PK GUI?
Thanks.
On Mon, 2013-09-02 at 06:10 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote:
In addition to that, we will have a new application installer in F20 ( https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AppInstaller ), which will allow us to properly present and feature applications that are not yet installed. For that reason, the designers working on the app installer, Ryan Lerch and Allan Day, have proposed that we don't install transmission, simple-scan and gnome-photos by default anymore, and instead feature them prominently in the app installer.
I tried what happens in my F19 if I click a torrent file without having Transmission installed. I was asked whether I want to search for a suitable application, I confirmed. Then nothing happened. I waited 10 seconds, then I clicked the torrent file again. No further dialog. I assumed it's broken, but after two minutes a PK dialog popped up. I guess it was downloading the metadata 50kB/s or something, but no progress was displayed anywhere. The dialog is rather bare:
http://i.imgur.com/lB4mOTP.png
Just out of curiosity, is this going to improve in F20? Is the new app lookup going to be performed by the AppInstaller, with all the new shiny stuff, rather than plain PK GUI?
Doing search-by-mimetype like this is on the list of things we want to add, certainly. We'll have to see if we can make it happen between now and f20.
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