Hi all,
i have three soundcards on my computer (one internal, 2 usb) running under FC8. I use this to run two mpd's (music player daemon) on the two USB-Soundcards.
The soundcards in my system makes a great race during startup and you can never predict which one wins.
Since the setup defines an index of the internal motherboard card in /etc/modprobe.conf, this card is not available anymore if the USB-Soundcards are detected first.
In my opinion this is a bad behavior of fedora core. Users should be able to decide which id which soundcard get. Of cource, you can write udev rules for that, but IMO this is the job of fedora.
Why don't we delay the start of the soundcards until all interfaces are enumerated? If this is done immediately before running rc.local, everything would be fine and there are no race conditions any more. This would also make sure that a soundcard doesn't disappear because the given index is used by another card.
Best Regards,
Carsten
On Fri, 11.04.08 22:37, Carsten Breuer (CarstenBreuerFDDesk@textwork.de) wrote:
Hi all,
i have three soundcards on my computer (one internal, 2 usb) running under FC8. I use this to run two mpd's (music player daemon) on the two USB-Soundcards.
The soundcards in my system makes a great race during startup and you can never predict which one wins.
Since the setup defines an index of the internal motherboard card in /etc/modprobe.conf, this card is not available anymore if the USB-Soundcards are detected first.
In my opinion this is a bad behavior of fedora core. Users should be able to decide which id which soundcard get. Of cource, you can write udev rules for that, but IMO this is the job of fedora.
Why don't we delay the start of the soundcards until all interfaces are enumerated? If this is done immediately before running rc.local, everything would be fine and there are no race conditions any more. This would also make sure that a soundcard doesn't disappear because the given index is used by another card.
Identifying sound cards by index is a thing from the past. PulseAudio identifies sound cards by their HAL UDI.
system-config-soundcard has been removed from the installer and is no longer part of the default install to make sure we don't write the problematic /etc/modprobe.conf fragments anymore. There was some talk to remove it from the distribution entirely, though I don't know what the latest status of this is.
Lennart
On Fri, 2008-04-11 at 22:50 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
system-config-soundcard has been removed from the installer and is no longer part of the default install to make sure we don't write the problematic /etc/modprobe.conf fragments anymore. There was some talk to remove it from the distribution entirely, though I don't know what the latest status of this is.
It's gone.
Hi Jesse, hi all,
Jesse Keating schrieb:
On Fri, 2008-04-11 at 22:50 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
system-config-soundcard has been removed from the installer and is no longer part of the default install to make sure we don't write the problematic /etc/modprobe.conf fragments anymore. There was some talk to remove it from the distribution entirely, though I don't know what the latest status of this is.
It's gone.
In current rawhide beta (update yesterday) it is available.
Best Regards,
Carsten
Carsten Breuer wrote:
Hi Jesse, hi all,
Jesse Keating schrieb:
On Fri, 2008-04-11 at 22:50 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
system-config-soundcard has been removed from the installer and is no longer part of the default install to make sure we don't write the problematic /etc/modprobe.conf fragments anymore. There was some talk to remove it from the distribution entirely, though I don't know what the latest status of this is.
It's gone.
In current rawhide beta (update yesterday) it is available.
It has been blocked already
#cat /etc/fedora-release
Fedora release 8.93 (Rawhide)
#yum info system-config-rawhide
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit Error: No matching Packages to list
Rahul
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Carsten Breuer wrote:
Hi Jesse, hi all,
Jesse Keating schrieb:
On Fri, 2008-04-11 at 22:50 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
system-config-soundcard has been removed from the installer and is no longer part of the default install to make sure we don't write the problematic /etc/modprobe.conf fragments anymore. There was some talk to remove it from the distribution entirely, though I don't know what the latest status of this is.
It's gone.
In current rawhide beta (update yesterday) it is available.
It has been blocked already
#cat /etc/fedora-release
Fedora release 8.93 (Rawhide)
#yum info system-config-rawhide
Ignore this. This is just a typo.
Rahul
Hi Lennart,
Identifying sound cards by index is a thing from the past. PulseAudio identifies sound cards by their HAL UDI.
I have my problems with pulseaudio, because i have studied the documents one week every evening and was not able to find out how to set it up.
Let me explain my setup:
My FC8-Server is in the basement and is connected with my home entertainment with cables going from the basement to a hole in the floor to the living room. I use CAT6- cables with 7 meters length for USB. This works mostly fine, but sometimes FC5 was not able to detect the USB soundcards during boot.
My idea was exactly to use pulseaudio to stream the audio to a thin client with linux on it (HP T5520) over the network.
Since Fedora is not running on the thin client (1.2 GHz, 128MB RAM), i use slackware. I don't have X on that machine and i was not able to setup pulseaudio. I have no problems to build pulseaudio from sratch on that client, but pulseaudio can do so much and all the documentation only have examples but no big picture for it (ok, one picture exist).
After a week without any success i have dumped the thin client idea and wanted to go back to the USB-Solution.
I like the idea to use pulseaudio but i have no glue how to set it up. I don't want to use AVAHI. I want a static configuration where 2 stereo channels for the two mpd's are transmitted to the thin client where 2 sound cards are available.
Can't you guide me in the right direction what i have to setup in default.pa, client.conf and daemon.conf? That would be great :-).
Best Regards and thank's a lot,
Carsten
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