As agreed in the first Atomic Workstation SIG meeting, I created a Pagure project:
https://pagure.io/fedora-atomic-workstation
to serve as a place to track issues with the operation of the Atomic Workstation composes, and meeting agenda items for the SIG.
Regards, Owen
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On 02/22/2018 12:58 PM, Owen Taylor wrote:
As agreed in the first Atomic Workstation SIG meeting, I created a Pagure project:
https://pagure.io/fedora-atomic-workstation
to serve as a place to track issues with the operation of the Atomic Workstation composes, and meeting agenda items for the SIG.
In the interest of trying to make things less confusing I suggest the name of this repo be something different.
- - We have pagure/atomic-wg which is for the atomic (host) working group. - - We have pagure/fedora-atomic which is for definitions of what goes into FAH - - We have pagure/workstation-ostree-config: defs for what goes into FAW - - We have pagure/atomic-ws: deprecated version of workstation-ostree-config - - We *now* have pagure/fedora-atomic-workstation, which is arguably where pagure/workstation-ostree-config should be - - We also have the *group* pagure/atomic/* so we can nest things under /atomic/ - for example we could create pagure/atomic/workstation-sig
My strong suggestion is that we have *sig* somewhere in the name of the repo. My other suggestion is that we try to figure out a better structure for these repos (maybe nesting more of them under pagure/atomic/)
Thoughts?
Dusty
On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 4:29 PM, Dusty Mabe dusty@dustymabe.com wrote:
On 02/22/2018 12:58 PM, Owen Taylor wrote:
As agreed in the first Atomic Workstation SIG meeting, I created a
Pagure project:
https://pagure.io/fedora-atomic-workstation
to serve as a place to track issues with the operation of the Atomic
Workstation composes, and meeting agenda items for the SIG.
In the interest of trying to make things less confusing I suggest the name of this repo be something different.
- We have pagure/atomic-wg which is for the atomic (host) working group.
- We have pagure/fedora-atomic which is for definitions of what goes
into FAH
- We have pagure/workstation-ostree-config: defs for what goes into FAW
- We have pagure/atomic-ws: deprecated version of
workstation-ostree-config
- We *now* have pagure/fedora-atomic-workstation, which is arguably
where pagure/workstation-ostree-config should be
- We also have the *group* pagure/atomic/* so we can nest things under
/atomic/ - for example we could create pagure/atomic/workstation-sig
And pagure/fedora-workstation - which is for the Workstation working group. (And a group pagure/fedora-workstation)
My strong suggestion is that we have *sig* somewhere in the name of the repo. My other suggestion is that we try to figure out a better structure for these repos (maybe nesting more of them under pagure/atomic/)
Thoughts?
I certainly agree the proliferation of inconsistently named repositories is confusing. I talked about naming with Matthias, and we though that a just-spell-it-out approach seemed least likely to run into mental confusion... * Is it atomic/workstation or fedora-workstation/atomic? * Is it atomic-workstation or atomic-ws
But why no -sig if the idea is to be maximally spelled out? Well, partly I didn't think of it, because i was following the model of fedora-workstation, which is not workstation-wg. But also, the idea of this project is that it's issue tracking not just for the SIG, but for Fedora Atomic Workstation as a composition and running system - this allows us to easily promote things to agenda items by adding a "meeting" tag.
There doesn't seem to be any obvious renaming facilities in Pagure, but we could perhaps get things moved by the admins if we figure out a good structure. Or at least a _better_ structure - if fedora-workstation, atomic-wg, fedora-atomic are fixed points, we're not going to get to consistency.
Ideas:
* We could delete my new fedora-atomic-workstation and move workstation-ostree-config to that name and use that as the issue tracking for the system and sig? * Maybe atomic-ws could be moved to old-atomic-ws or something like that to make it a little less obtrusive
Do people have better ideas to try to get to something more globally consistent?
Thanks, Owen
Dusty
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On 02/22/2018 11:16 PM, Owen Taylor wrote:
On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 4:29 PM, Dusty Mabe <dusty@dustymabe.com mailto:dusty@dustymabe.com> wrote:
In the interest of trying to make things less confusing I suggest the name of this repo be something different. - - We have pagure/atomic-wg which is for the atomic (host) working group. - - We have pagure/fedora-atomic which is for definitions of what goes into FAH - - We have pagure/workstation-ostree-config: defs for what goes into FAW - - We have pagure/atomic-ws: deprecated version of workstation-ostree-config - - We *now* have pagure/fedora-atomic-workstation, which is arguably where pagure/workstation-ostree-config should be - - We also have the *group* pagure/atomic/* so we can nest things under /atomic/ - for example we could create pagure/atomic/workstation-sigAnd pagure/fedora-workstation - which is for the Workstation working group. (And a group pagure/fedora-workstation)
My strong suggestion is that we have *sig* somewhere in the name of the repo. My other suggestion is that we try to figure out a better structure for these repos (maybe nesting more of them under pagure/atomic/) Thoughts?I certainly agree the proliferation of inconsistently named repositories is confusing. I talked about naming with Matthias, and we though that a just-spell-it-out approach seemed least likely to run into mental confusion...
- Is it atomic/workstation or fedora-workstation/atomic?
- Is it atomic-workstation or atomic-ws
But why no -sig if the idea is to be maximally spelled out? Well, partly I didn't think of it, because i was following the model of fedora-workstation, which is not workstation-wg. But also, the idea of this project is that it's issue tracking not just for the SIG, but for Fedora Atomic Workstation as a composition and running system - this allows us to easily promote things to agenda items by adding a "meeting" tag.
There doesn't seem to be any obvious renaming facilities in Pagure, but we could perhaps get things moved by the admins if we figure out a good structure. Or at least a _better_ structure - if fedora-workstation, atomic-wg, fedora-atomic are fixed points, we're not going to get to consistency.
https://pagure.io/pagure/issue/2103 but no one is working on it. anyone interested?
Ideas:
- We could delete my new fedora-atomic-workstation and move workstation-ostree-config to that name and use that as the issue tracking for the system and sig?
Not sure why, but I do prefer to keep the config separate from the issue tracker for atomic workstation as a whole. I look at the sig tracker as a tracker for all things related to atomic workstation (which could include changes to the config or not).
- Maybe atomic-ws could be moved to old-atomic-ws or something like that to make it a little less obtrusive
We could just delete that repo at this point IMHO. workstation-ostree-config, however is something I would want to rename rather than delete (i.e. I would want existing issue/PR https links to still work.
Do people have better ideas to try to get to something more globally consistent?
Unfortunately without the ability to move repos around then I don't have good ideas. The only thing we *could* do is say "if we were able to move repos around what would be the desired structure?" and go with that for new repos.
Dusty
On Thu, Feb 22, 2018, at 4:29 PM, Dusty Mabe wrote:
- We have pagure/atomic-ws: deprecated version of workstation-ostree-
config
FWIW this is deleted now, and I archived it to https://github.com/cgwalters/old-atomic-ws-archive
Owen and I were looking at the various repos you mention, as well as things like pagure/fedora-workstation, but we couldn't really make out a clear enough naming scheme that would be obvious to follow. In the end we thought that fedora-atomic-workstation is long but clearly describes what it is about.
If you feel strongly about the grouping, we can certainly move it into the group and shorten the name as you suggest.
On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 4:30 PM Dusty Mabe dusty@dustymabe.com wrote:
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On 02/22/2018 12:58 PM, Owen Taylor wrote:
As agreed in the first Atomic Workstation SIG meeting, I created a
Pagure project:
https://pagure.io/fedora-atomic-workstation
to serve as a place to track issues with the operation of the Atomic
Workstation composes, and meeting agenda items for the SIG.
In the interest of trying to make things less confusing I suggest the name of this repo be something different.
- We have pagure/atomic-wg which is for the atomic (host) working group.
- We have pagure/fedora-atomic which is for definitions of what goes
into FAH
- We have pagure/workstation-ostree-config: defs for what goes into FAW
- We have pagure/atomic-ws: deprecated version of
workstation-ostree-config
- We *now* have pagure/fedora-atomic-workstation, which is arguably
where pagure/workstation-ostree-config should be
- We also have the *group* pagure/atomic/* so we can nest things under
/atomic/ - for example we could create pagure/atomic/workstation-sig
My strong suggestion is that we have *sig* somewhere in the name of the repo. My other suggestion is that we try to figure out a better structure for these repos (maybe nesting more of them under pagure/atomic/)
Thoughts?
Dusty
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