devel April 2004

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Weird X11 behaviour since 2.6.5-1.332
by Michael A. Peters 30 Apr '04

30 Apr '04

nvidia geforce 4 440MX Using the nv driver Twice now - X11 suddenly stops responding, or is extremely slow in responding. The mouse works just fine - so it's not a refresh issue, but the window manager/desktop (gnome) takes forever to respond to clicks. Switching to a virtual console is instantaneous - but there is a delay in log in. But once logged in, the cli is snappy - but the problem persists in X11. Anybody else seen this? Next time it happens I'll see if anything is in the x11 logs - if something hasn't already been reported related to this. -- Cheap Linux CD's - http://mpeters.us/linux/

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betting on the wrong disc
by Rui Miguel Silva Seabra 30 Apr '04

30 Apr '04

bah! Minimum Install requires discs 1 and ___3___ !!!!!!! Call it bad luck... Can something be done about this, or at least made widely clear on the final release announcement? I'm now waiting for disc 3 of fc2t3 and got disc 2 for nothing :) Rui

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rhythmbox radio/mp3
by Michael A. Peters 30 Apr '04

30 Apr '04

Let's say that hypothetically speaking I were to install some packages from http://rpm.livna.org and then rebuild the gstreamer-plugins src.rpm except using a source tarball from gnome instead of the red hat one with removed stuff. And lets this hypothetically resulted in the following plugins: +/usr/lib/gstreamer-0.8/libgstdvdreadsrc.so +/usr/lib/gstreamer-0.8/libgstffmpegcolorspace.so +/usr/lib/gstreamer-0.8/libgstlibfame.so +/usr/lib/gstreamer-0.8/libgstmp1videoparse.so +/usr/lib/gstreamer-0.8/libgstmpeg1systemencode.so +/usr/lib/gstreamer-0.8/libgstmpeg2subt.so +/usr/lib/gstreamer-0.8/libgstmpegaudio.so +/usr/lib/gstreamer-0.8/libgstmpegaudioparse.so +/usr/lib/gstreamer-0.8/libgstmpegstream.so +/usr/lib/gstreamer-0.8/libgstxvid.so but after installing and running gst-register, when trying to play a shoutcast, rhythmbox still pops up a dialog stating: "There is no element present to handle the stream's mime type audio/mpeg." Where would I tell it that it has new gstreamer plugins it can use? I'm tempted to just build rhythmbox from source (rebuild the rpm) but I don't think that is the issue, I've had previous installs of rhythmbox that did simply pick up on the fact that I rebuilt gst-plugins and new capabilities were there. -- Cheap Linux CD's - http://mpeters.us/linux/

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rawhide report: 20040430 changes
by Build System 30 Apr '04

30 Apr '04

Updated Packages: gaim-0.77-3 ----------- * Thu Apr 29 2004 Warren Togami <wtogami(a)redhat.com> 0.77-3 - remove gnome-open manual, since 0.77 has "GNOME Default" as default. - update default prefs.xml, disable buddy icons in buddy list - CVS backport 114: plugin prefs saving fix 115: autoreconn-suppress-dialogs 116: fix smileys in dialogs 117: gtk+ 2.0 compat * Sun Apr 25 2004 Warren Togami <wtogami(a)redhat.com> 0.77-1 - 0.77, remove cvs backports rpmdb-fedora-1.92-0.20040430 ----------------------------

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kernel low latency patch
by Matthew L. Dunkle 30 Apr '04

30 Apr '04

Hello All, It appears as of the 2179 version of the Fedora Core 1 kernel, that the kernel low-latency patch has been removed. Any ideas as to why? Is there a replacement for this patch incorporated into the 2179+ releases? This patch is very important to systems trying to process streaming data, and I am trying to determine why it has apparently been removed. Thanks, Matt

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Anaconda HOWTO (step-by-step)?
by Chris Kloiber 30 Apr '04

30 Apr '04

Has any work been done to document Anaconda's deep-dark-secrets yet? My current project: Given a copy of all the RPMS/SRPMS, and having the anaconda-runtime package installed, I'd like to build an installable tree using a custom kernel (for my funky x64_64 laptop) and optionally create CD and DVD images. -- Chris Kloiber

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Online distro upgrade
by Aurelien Bompard 30 Apr '04

30 Apr '04

Hi all This is probably a stupid question, but anyway... If I understood correctly, an upgrade from one distro to the next (say, FC1 to FC2) will never be as good with apt or yum as it is with anaconda. Anaconda knows much more about the process, which packages need to be removed, which packages need to be installed, and what needs to be done to the system (ie all the SELinux labelling stuff) But online upgrade is really extremely useful, especially for a distro with a 6 months release cycle (I've recently heard Debian users boast --again-- about that) Well, if anaconda can handle the process when it is run from the CDRom, would it be possible to make it do its job from a running system ? I suppose it is not possible right now, but would it be possible to just download the isos, mount them on a loopback device, and launch anaconda from there ? If needed, it could require a reboot at the end of the process, etc... Are there operations which need to be done on an unmounted filesystem ? If yes, they could be done by a "very-first-start" program after anaconda's work, or even something loaded in RAM. I have no idea whether this is possible or not, because I don't know anaconda's design. If this is the most stupid proposition you've ever heard, please ignore this. If it is technically impossible, please tell me. If there are better solutions to upgrade an online system, please tell me too. But if it is possible (for FC4 or even FC3), this would really rock. Thanks for your attention. Aurélien -- http://gauret.free.fr ~~~~ Jabber : gauret(a)amessage.info "Really, I'm not out to destroy Microsoft. That will just be a completely unintentional side effect." -- Linus Torvalds

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kernel updates from external trees
by Josh Boyer 29 Apr '04

29 Apr '04

In general, what is the frequency that the fedora/redhat kernel folks grab updates from external source trees? I am mostly interested in how often it is done for JFFS2, but there are other trees (such as linuxppc) where development is done outside of the kernel.org tree that has a value to end users. Some trees don't push to Linus very often (like JFFS2) for various reasons, so are users getting whatever is in the vanilla kernels? Or, do the fedora/redhat people do their own patches? I am not expecting a schedule or some set update frequency. I am mostly just asking to see if it is done at all, and if so get a rough estimate as to how often. thx, josh

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totem/xine
by Michael A. Peters 29 Apr '04

29 Apr '04

Is there a reason why there are not any fedora packages (that I can find anyway) for totem and xine-libs? -- Cheap Linux CD's - http://mpeters.us/linux/

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packages submitted
by Aaron Bennett 29 Apr '04

29 Apr '04

Hey, I just submitted three packages -- waproamd, ifplugd, and libdaemon, to bugzilla.fedora.us. They are bugs # 1534, 1535, and 1536. Excuse the needless email, but I'm excited about it! Cheers, Aaron -- Aaron Bennett UNIX Administrator Franklin W. Olin College of Engineering

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