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upgrading RH 9 system->Fedora with iso files and apt only
by Didier Casse 17 Jan '22

17 Jan '22

I have the yarrow's iso files on my HD in a RH9 system. Let's say I want to upgrade selected packages using an "apt-get install" pointing to my iso-mounted files, how do I do it? i.e I mount the iso into some /mnt/yarrow1, /mnt/yarrow 2 etc.. Then what is the complete procedure to make my apt look into my own HD to upgrade packages. Can anybody redirect me to the correct resource or some literature hanging on the web? Thanks. Assume also that I do not wish to burn CDs! I do not want to use apt-cdrom. Thanks. With kind regards, Didier. --- PhD student Singapore Synchrotron Light Source (SSLS) 5 Research Link, Singapore 117603 Email: slsbdfc at nus dot edu dot sg \or\ didierbe at sps dot nus dot edu dot sg Website: http://ssls.nus.edu.sg

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pdftk retired?
by Michael J Gruber 08 Sep '21

08 Sep '21

I just git a "broken dependencies" notice for a package that I maintain. The reason is that "pdftk" got retired just the other day. I may have missed a corresponding post on fedora-devel, but I think a heads up notice to maintainers of depending packages may be in order before you retire a package, as a general idea. You see, unretiring a package is so much more work than changing maintainership. As for pdftk: I see 2 failed builds for version 1.45 and none for the current version 2.02 (which probably breaks the api anyways). What are the plans? Retire pdftk completely? Start fresh with pdftk2? pdflabs, the maker of pdftk, provide binary as well as source rpms for pdftk 2.02, by the way. I might even look into packaging it but don't want to duplicate any existing efforts. Michael

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git push permission denied
by Neal Becker 10 Feb '21

10 Feb '21

I just had to setup a new machine, and new ssh keys. I visited https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/user/edit/xxxx I chose my new id_rsa.pub to upload. But I get: git push --verbose Pushing to ssh://nbecker@pkgs.fedoraproject.org/mercurial Permission denied (publickey). fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly Hints?

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apitrace, bundled libbacktrace
by Sandro Mani 17 Dec '17

17 Dec '17

Hi, apitrace 5.0 bundles libbacktrace, which looks like is living within the gcc sources. libbacktrace is not build as a shared library from the gcc sources, and not packaged. Is it feasible to build libbacktrace as a shared library and ship it in a corresponding package? Or should I rather go for a bundling exception request? Thanks, Sandro

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Bad default error policy causes printing issues and BIG usability issues
by Valent Turkovic 01 Sep '15

01 Sep '15

Hi, currently default error policy for printers in Fedora is "Stop printer" on any error which is a really bad default. I have run across this issue LOTS of times with regular Fedora desktop users who don't get why has their printer stopped working, there is no UI queue to warn users, there is no easy way to "Start printer" with one click after it has been stopped. It is just a big mess. Even worse, previous versions of Gnome control panel (if I remember correctly) had option to change default error policy, now that option is removed and you can get to it only by installing system-config-printers tool, something regular users have no idea about even exists, and it is not installed by default. There are too many examples which are simple user errors but result in priner going offline (stopped) and this is really bad, because after any small error users can't print any more. For example: user trying to print while he/she is not at home so his/hers printer is not available, user trying to print but has forgot to connect usb priner cable, user trying to print but haven't turned it on, user printing to wifi printer but while connected to different wifi network... Any of these actions is simple uses error but results in permanently disabling of priner (Stops printer) and users can't print even when they resolve issue that was stopping them from accessing the printer. Now Fedora is what is stopping them from printing. Who is responsible for user experience of Fedora desktop? To whom should I point this issue to?

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DNF 0.6.0 Released
by Ales Kozumplik 10 Apr '15

10 Apr '15

Hello, New minor version was released yesterday. All summed up on our blog: http://dnf.baseurl.org/2014/08/12/dnf-0-6-0-released/ Cheers, Ales

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F21 Self Contained Change: Replace Bacula with Bareos
by Jaroslav Reznik 09 Apr '15

09 Apr '15

= Proposed Self Contained Change: Replace Bacula with Bareos = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Bareos Change Owner(s): Simone Caronni <negativo17 at gmail.com> The powerful Bacula network backup solution has switched from being Open Source friendly to being almost closed source. Originally the project was conceived totally as Open Source, but since the creation of Bacula Systems and its proprietary Bacula Enterprise Edition product, the Open Source (now called "Community Edition") has received less and less updates and is mostly abandoned. == Detailed description == The most important points that are left "abandoned" are the following: * Installation scripts and updates to makefiles are not updated anymore. * New plugins and functionalities are not added anymore, except those in the "core" daemons. * Gaphical (and buggy) console has not received any update in almost two years. * Patches and bugs opened in the bug tracker are mostly left abandoned. Even trivial fixes are not imported in the source. * Windows binaries are no longer provided, nor the source for the clients has been updated. Even if compiled with difficulties, there is no support for recent Windows versions. A former Bacula developer, frustrated by the situation created the fork Bareos a long time ago from Bacula 5.2.x (the current Fedora and RHEL 7 version). This version has now received '''a lot of bugfixes''' compared to the original Bacula source. This makes compilation and installation a lot easier than it was with Bacula. On top of this, a '''lot of new features''' have been added; some unique to Bareos but many available only in the closed source Bacula Enterprise. Here is the list of new features compared to the current Bacula 5.2.13: * http://www.bareos.org/en/whats_new.html Some highlights include NDMP support for enterprise class storage (NetApp, etc.), support for enterprise class tape libraries and Windows support (including Windows Server 2012) with Bareos generated binaries. For further details on why a Bacula fork was created please look at the following links: * http://www.bareos.org/en/faq/items/why_fork.html Bareos can also be '''fully compatible with Bacula''' by setting a specific configuration directive in the Daemon configuration files; thus providing the option for RHEL 6/7 users to interoperate with Fedora systems. * http://www.bareos.org/en/faq/items/bareos_bacula_compatibility.html == Scope == To accomplish the goal, the following Bacula packages need to be replaced with Bareos equivalents: bacula bacula-docs Currently, the same Fedora packages can be rebuilt as they are, to work also on CentOS/RHEL 5 and 6, upgrading the EPEL or official Bacula packages in the distributions. This is to have a consistent backup infrastructure across all the Fedora/CentOS/RHEL ecosystem. To ease installation, a repository for installing those packages on a CentOS/RHEL system do exist: http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/slaanesh/bacula/README.txt The idea is the same for Bareos: import into Fedora 21 packages that can be rebuilt for all supported Fedora/RHEL/CentOS releases and provide a repository that can upgrade any Bacula release currently installed in the system with the new one. In detail; the upgrade scenarios supported when going from Bacula to Bareos would be: From Bacula 2.4: * RHEL/CentOS 5 with EPEL repository From Bacula 5.0: * RHEL/CentOS 6 From Bacula 5.2.13: * Fedora 18+ * RHEL/CentOS 5 * RHEL/CentOS 6 As written before, the change is impacting only Fedora 21, the list of upgrades supported are only for users who want a consistent backup solution across the enterprise. === External activities === Proposal owners: I'm the current Bacula mantainer in Fedora and will complete the transition in time for the release. Other developers: N/A (not a System Wide Change) Release engineering: the release engineering team should make sure the new Bareos packages are in place instead of the current Bacula packages for the new release. Policies and guidelines: N/A (not a System Wide Change) _______________________________________________ devel-announce mailing list devel-announce(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce

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Koji build failure: noarch vs. arch?
by Jerry James 30 Mar '15

30 Mar '15

I just had a weird failure on a koji builder: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=8776617 The SRPM creation step failed, with this output: error: parse error in expression error: /builddir/build/SPECS/libpuma.spec:119: bad %if condition Building target platforms: noarch Building for target noarch Child return code was: 1 EXCEPTION: Command failed. See logs for output. It is complaining about this line in the spec file: %if %{__isa_bits} == 64 and, from the mention of noarch, my guess is that the complaint is triggered because whatever is doing the parsing thinks this is a noarch package. It is not. It is an archful package, with a noarch -doc subpackage. What component is doing this parsing? Was it changed recently? Because that same construct in the spec file didn't cause a problem the last time I built this package. Also, the package builds without trouble in mock. Thanks, -- Jerry James http://www.jamezone.org/

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DNF and mock
by Miroslav Suchý 16 Mar '15

16 Mar '15

I just spoke with two members of DNF team about default usage of DNF in mock. I would like to share outcomes of this meeting. First I would like to state that you can already optionally use DNF in your mock by setting: config_opts['package_manager'] = 'dnf' in your /etc/mock/site-defaults.cfg It is present in mock for half a year and all known problems have been resolved for some time. You can even set this option per chroot target. E.g. put this line only in /etc/mock/fedora-rawhide-x86_64.cfg and then only rawhide-x86_64 builds will use dnf while everything else will use yum. DNF should be default packager manager in Fedora 22, so I started thinking how it affects mock. I have a notion, that after branching of Fedora 22 I will change /etc/mock/fedora-rawhide-*.cfg to use DNF by default. I.e. everything build for Fedora 23 would use DNF for building. At the outset I thought that we use yum for older targets (epel-7, fedora-22..) indefinitely. Or to be precise until those targets will be EOLed. But that would imply that yum have to be present in Fedora until Fedora 40 [1]. This is very unlikely to happen. More realistic expectation is that yum will disappear around Fedora 27 [2]. Which means that in Fedora 27 you either will be unable to build packages for epel-7 or you will have to use DNF. This is quite distant future and we will try our best to make this transition as much flawless as possible. I just want to make you aware in advance. Of course if you want to help, you are very welcome. I expect that we will be building Fedora 22- always by yum due to short Fedora life cycle. Yum will be still present in Fedora 24 for sure. [1] https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/errata#Life_Cycle_Dates [2] It’s Difficult to Make Predictions, Especially About the Future -- Miroslav Suchy, RHCE, RHCDS Red Hat, Senior Software Engineer, #brno, #devexp, #fedora-buildsys

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Packagers: incomplete Obsoletes and undead packages
by Michael Schwendt 06 Mar '15

06 Mar '15

This is about Rawhide. The list for F21 is similar, which is especially strange with regard to any packages that should be marked as dead in dist git already then. "Dead" = a dead.package file in dist git exists, but builds of the package are still found in the repo(s). Package has not been retired fully yet. "Undead" = no dead.package file in dist git found. "Only obsolete subpackages" = non-trivial, but for some of those cases there are really some missing Obsoletes tags and an incomplete set of builds is left in the repo (e.g. a -devel subpkg but its base pkg is obsoleted). [...] Dead and all builds obsoleted: ------------------------------ drwright obsoleted by: gnome-settings-daemon python-twisted-conch obsoleted by: python-twisted python-twisted-lore obsoleted by: python-twisted python-twisted-mail obsoleted by: python-twisted python-twisted-names obsoleted by: python-twisted python-twisted-news obsoleted by: python-twisted python-twisted-runner obsoleted by: python-twisted python-twisted-web2 obsoleted by: python-twisted python-twisted-words obsoleted by: python-twisted qca2 obsoleted by: qca Undead and all builds obsoleted: -------------------------------- golang-launchpad-gocheck obsoleted by: golang-gopkg-check kopete-cryptography obsoleted by: kopete kwallet obsoleted by: kwalletmanager lxshortcut obsoleted by: libfm mate-dialogs obsoleted by: mate-desktop min-metadata-service obsoleted by: min-cloud-agent openstack-marconi obsoleted by: openstack-zaqar php-channel-deepend obsoleted by: php-deepend-Mockery php-channel-symfony2 obsoleted by: php-symfony php-symfony-icu obsoleted by: php-symfony python-XStatic-Angular-Cookies obsoleted by: python-XStatic-Angular superiotool obsoleted by: coreboot-utils xorg-x11-glamor obsoleted by: xorg-x11-server zeroinstall-injector obsoleted by: 0install Only obsolete subpackage(s): ---------------------------- kactivities ['kactivities'] 4 left obsoleted by: kf5-kactivities left: kactivities-devel left: kactivities-libs left: kactivities-nepomuk left: kactivities-nepomuk-devel mmdb ['mmdb'] 1 left obsoleted by: mmdb2 left: mmdb-devel python-twisted-core ['python-twisted-core'] 1 left obsoleted by: python-twisted left: python-twisted-core-doc razorqt ['razorqt-notifications'] 22 left obsoleted by: lxqt-notificationd left: lightdm-razorqt left: razorqt left: razorqt-about left: razorqt-appswitcher left: razorqt-autosuspend left: razorqt-config left: razorqt-data left: razorqt-desktop left: razorqt-globalkeyshortcuts left: razorqt-libs left: razorqt-libs-devel left: razorqt-openssh-askpass left: razorqt-panel left: razorqt-policykit-agent left: razorqt-power left: razorqt-runner left: razorqt-session left: razorqt-theme-ambiance left: razorqt-theme-amego left: razorqt-theme-green left: razorqt-theme-light left: razorqt-themes ruby-gnome2 ['ruby-gtksourceview2', 'ruby-gtksourceview2-devel'] 24 left obsoleted by: rubygem-gtksourceview2 left: ruby-bonobo2 left: ruby-bonobo2-devel left: ruby-bonoboui2 left: ruby-bonoboui2-devel left: ruby-gconf2 left: ruby-gconf2-devel left: ruby-gnome2 left: ruby-gnome2-devel left: ruby-gnomecanvas2 left: ruby-gnomecanvas2-devel left: ruby-gnomeprint2 left: ruby-gnomeprint2-devel left: ruby-gnomeprintui2 left: ruby-gnomeprintui2-devel left: ruby-gnomevfs left: ruby-gnomevfs-devel left: ruby-gtkglext left: ruby-gtkglext-devel left: ruby-gtksourceview left: ruby-gtksourceview-devel left: ruby-libart2 left: ruby-libart2-devel left: ruby-libglade2 left: ruby-libglade2-devel

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