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gnupg newpg gpgme gpgme03 cryptplug isuses
by Dennis Gilmore 29 Oct '04

29 Oct '04

Recently the version of libgcrypt was increased to 1.1.94 as a result of this newpg would not build against the newer libgcrypt i sent an email to gcrypt-devel list and this is what i got back <quote> Don't build newpg at all. It has been superseded by gnupg-1.9.x . You would need an old libgcrypt < 1.1.42 to build it. The configure sscript was not able to detect newer versions with a changed API. </quote> we have a problem here seems we no longer need newpg but we need things it provides for gpgme gpgme03 cryptplug gpa kgpg (which doesnt complain so much just says its not there) to get these things it provides we need to go to the newer gnupg or we need to revert back to the older libgcrypt. being so late in the cycle i dont know which would be best. so i thought id ask before filling a bug against something. it does need to be fixed before final is out as people will complain if they cant decrypt email in kmail or mutt gpa doesnt work etc. i think we should probably go back to the old version of libgcrypt Dennis

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sound server
by Havoc Pennington 29 Oct '04

29 Oct '04

Hi, Do we have any comments on the sound server topic from a broader perspective than only GNOME? A competing proposal I've heard is to just use ALSA directly. I believe this is orthogonal to something like Helix/GStreamer which would both output to the sound server, but the maintainers of those media frameworks probably care about the discussion. A nice Fedora goal at some point would be to get all packages using the same sound setup. Havoc

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/etc/sysconfig/hwconf and Onstream tape drives
by Willem Riede 29 Oct '04

29 Oct '04

I'm trying to get Onstream {SC|DI} tape drives - osstX devices - to be detected and set up correctly in FC3 Test 3, just as stX devices are. In spite of staring at the startup scripts for some time, I'm not sure where to start. To quote a segment of my /etc/sysconfig/hwconf: - class: TAPE bus: SCSI detached: 0 device: st0 ^^^ this should be osst0 driver: ignore desc: "Onstream SC-30" host: 0 id: 3 channel: 0 lun: 0 generic: sg0 - class: TAPE bus: SCSI detached: 0 device: st1 ^^^ this should be st0 driver: ignore desc: "Onstream ADR Series" host: 3 id: 0 channel: 0 lun: 0 generic: sg6 - class: TAPE bus: SCSI detached: 0 device: st2 ^^^ this should be osst1 driver: ignore desc: "Onstream DI-30" host: 4 id: 0 channel: 0 lun: 0 generic: sg7 - class: TAPE bus: SCSI detached: 0 device: st3 ^^^ this should be st1 driver: ignore desc: "Conner CTT8000-A" host: 5 id: 0 channel: 0 lun: 0 generic: sg8 - What creates /etc/sysconfig/hwconf? Does it drive everything else? If not, what is the point at which I should start unraveling this? Thanks for your help, Willem Riede.

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rawhide report: 20041026 changes
by Build System 29 Oct '04

29 Oct '04

Updated Packages: evolution-2.0.2-3 ----------------- * Fri Oct 22 2004 David Malcolm <dmalcolm(a)redhat.com> - 2.0.2-3 - added requirement on gnutls/gnutls-devel * Fri Oct 22 2004 David Malcolm <dmalcolm(a)redhat.com> - 2.0.2-2 - Fix for #132050 (no entry for Evolution in the menus): use the new redhat-evolution.desktop file provided by redhat-menus-1.13 * Tue Oct 12 2004 David Malcolm <dmalcolm(a)redhat.com> - 2.0.2-1 - Update from 2.0.1 to 2.0.2 - Updated dependency on e-d-s from 1.0.1 to 1.0.2 - Updated dependency on libgal2 from 2.2.2 to 2.2.3 - Updated dependency on gtkhtml3 from 3.3.0 to 3.3.2 - ppc's mozilla dependency is now in line with the other architectures at 1.7.3 kernel-2.6.9-1.643 ------------------ * Fri Oct 22 2004 Dave Jones <davej(a)redhat.com> - Selected bits from 2.6.9-ac3 - Fix syncppp/async ppp problems with new hangup - Fix broken parport_pc unload - Stop i8xx_tco making some boxes reboot on load - Fix cpia/module tools deadlock - Security fix for smbfs leak/overrun * Thu Oct 21 2004 Dave Jones <davej(a)redhat.com> - Misc security fixes from 2.6.9-ac2 * Wed Oct 20 2004 Dave Jones <davej(a)redhat.com> - Fix ia64 module loading. (#136365) - Enable discontigmem for PPC64 - Disable a bunch of useless PPC config options - Enable PACK_STACK on s390. libgal2-2.2.3-3 --------------- * Fri Oct 22 2004 David Malcolm <dmalcolm(a)redhat.com> - 2:2.2.3-3 - rebuilt * Thu Oct 21 2004 David Malcolm <dmalcolm(a)redhat.com> - rebuilt postgresql-7.4.6-1.FC3.1 ------------------------ * Sat Oct 23 2004 Tom Lane <tgl(a)redhat.com> 7.4.6-1 - Update to PostgreSQL 7.4.6 (bugs 136947, 136949) - Make init script more paranoid about mkdir step of initializing a new database (bugs 136947, 136949) * Wed Oct 20 2004 Tom Lane <tgl(a)redhat.com> 7.4.5-4 - Remove contrib/oidjoins stuff from installed fileset; it's of no use to ordinary users and has a security issue (bugs 136300, 136301) - adjust chkconfig priority (bug 128852) rpmdb-fedora-3-0.20041026 ------------------------- system-config-securitylevel-1.4.14-1 ------------------------------------ * Mon Oct 25 2004 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 1.4.14-1 - fix creation of relabel

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Re: sound server
by Mike Hearn 29 Oct '04

29 Oct '04

> Do we have any comments on the sound server topic from a broader > perspective than only GNOME? > > A competing proposal I've heard is to just use ALSA directly. I've got some notes on how to get hardware accelerated/network transparent mixing sorted out with minimal effort, which unfortunately I don't have here. I could post them in a few days, hopefully. Basically: - Write an alsa-lib plugin that by default just forwards the audio to the slave device (ie, is a no-op) but when a magic environment variable is set or whatever takes the audio and writes it to a socket created somewhere with the name == pid of process, ie /tmp/audio-mike/12345 The alsa-lib configuration format allows passing environment vars as plugin parameters, ie it's all quite flexible with minimal policy hardcoded. Typically therefore you'd have the following alsalib plugin pipeline: default -> as-yet-unnamed-plugin -> [dmix] -> plughw:0,0 - Have a simple GStreamer app that monitors $MAGIC_DIRECTORY and when a new socket appears that is readable, connect to it and start downloading the audio direct from the app. You can then feed it via any GST pipeline you like; ie: fdsrc ! vorbisenc ! oggmux ! tcpsink (dunno the exact plugin names). Net result is sound-server policy is very flexible: you can have a dedicated "connect to me" style server or you can stream it via SSH or via X, or you can forward audio on a case-by-case basis. - The key point is that in the common case of no network transparency you can take advantage of dmix mixing (so instant interop with all other ALSA supporting apps and OSS apps via the alsa LD_PRELOAD wrapper), and in the case of having a sound card that doesn't suck you can use hardware accelerated mixing/resampling as ALSA supports this natively. - One issue I haven't considered is syncing with X, because I don't know anything about that. How often do people play movies over a remote X connection anyway? The main catch is that it doesn't exist, I just made it up. Somebody would have to learn ALSA plugin programming then write as-yet-unnamed-plugin. I don't have time, sorry :( The other major catch is that obviously it's not portable. To be frank I don't care about this whatsoever - IMHO audio mixing/resampling/network-transparency is *not* a desktop level problem, it's an operating system level problem. If the sound system of other operating systems don't support automatic software mixing or network transparency then too bad. However I suspect a proposal based on leveraging ALSA would go down like a ton of bricks in most portable desktop projects. There's nothing inherantly unportable about the ALSA API, but people would still object. Final catch: in Fedora Core 2 at least ALSA support still seems a bit buggy. I found running XMMS for long periods with the ALSA plugin caused a huge memory leak, and also after playing music for a while noise and corruption started leaking into the audio. Here is the ALSA dmix bug: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=130593 thanks -mike

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rawhide report: 20041029 changes
by Build System 29 Oct '04

29 Oct '04

Updated Packages: anaconda-10.1.0.2-1 ------------------- * Thu Oct 28 2004 Jeremy Katz <katzj(a)redhat.com> - 10.1.0.2-1 - Bring in firefox on upgrade if mozilla/netscape were previously installed (#137244) glibc-2.3.3-74 -------------- * Wed Oct 27 2004 Jakub Jelinek <jakub(a)redhat.com> 2.3.3-74 - fix <netinet/udp.h> header - fix globfree (#137176) - fix exiting if there are dlmopened libraries in namespaces other than main one not closed yet - export again _res_opcodes and __p_{class,type}_syms from libresolv.so that were lost in -69 gpdf-2.8.0-5 ------------ * Thu Oct 28 2004 Dan Williams <dcbw(a)redhat.com> 2.8.0-5 - Fix CAN-2004-0888 (xpdf integer overflows) gpm-1.20.1-66 ------------- * Thu Oct 21 2004 Adrian Havill <havill(a)redhat.com> 1.20.1-66 - avoid spawning multiple copies of inputattach, and kill process when gpm shuts down (#135776) * Wed Oct 20 2004 Bill Nottingham <notting(a)redhat.com> 1.20.1-65 - remove buildroot paths from gpm.info, fixing #135305 * Wed Oct 20 2004 Adrian Havill <havill(a)redhat.com> 1.20.1-64 - fixing multilib conflict (#135305): o remove buildsys check/conditional for gziping info pages (let rpm do it) o don't pre-byte-compile emacs code libgnome-2.8.0-2 ---------------- * Mon Oct 18 2004 <jrb(a)redhat.com> - 2.8.0-2 - change default browser to firefox * Wed Sep 22 2004 Alexander Larsson <alexl(a)redhat.com> - 2.8.0-1 - update to 2.8.0 * Tue Aug 31 2004 Alex Larsson <alexl(a)redhat.com> 2.7.92-1 - update to 2.7.92 mkinitrd-4.1.18-2 ----------------- * Sun Oct 24 2004 Jeremy Katz <katzj(a)redhat.com> - 4.1.18-2 - require cpio (#136814) nss_db-2.2-29 ------------- * Wed Oct 20 2004 Nalin Dahyabhai <nalin(a)redhat.com> 2.2-29 - give makedb support for setting labels on files, and use it (#136522) openswan-2.1.5-2 ---------------- * Thu Oct 21 2004 Bill Nottingham <notting(a)redhat.com> - 2.1.5-2 - don't run by default. again. rpmdb-fedora-3-0.20041029 ------------------------- xinitrc-4.0.14-1 ---------------- * Wed Oct 20 2004 Mike A. Harris <mharris(a)redhat.com> 4.0.14-1 - Fix permissions on Xaccess file (#101065) - Modified the way ssh-agent is invoked, which greatly simplified the xinitrc script, and removed the now unneeded SSH_AGENT variable (#134494) yum-2.1.11-1 ------------ * Thu Oct 28 2004 Jeremy Katz <katzj(a)redhat.com> - 2.1.11-1 - update to 2.1.11 - fix config file error handling - better handling of empty lines/comments in mirror lists - improve some error messages * Sun Oct 24 2004 Jeremy Katz <katzj(a)redhat.com> - 2.1.10-3.1 - make the cron job executable (#136764)

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any chances for some last minute vte changes, or atleast something to consider
by Jon Nettleton 29 Oct '04

29 Oct '04

We have all dealt with the good, the bad, and the ugly of gnome-terminal/vte. Don't get me wrong, it has been my terminal of choice as long as I have run redhat/fedora. The speed output has always been an issue for me, but it wasn't until recently that the tabbed redraw problem became apparent to me. I always switch my terminal to a black background with grey fonts, so it wasn't until I started rolling my customized fedora core 2 desktop out to my coworkers that the multi-tab black background bug was ever a factor. The speed issue was addresed in the patch attached to this bugzilla, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=132770 , which I have found fantastic. Without the mad skills of this excellent programmer I addressed the lesser of the two evils, the tabbed black background bug. My debugging led to a less elegant, but harmless and effective solution with a patch attached to this bug, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=100420 . Between the two patches I now have a gnome-terminal that just works how I want it, and how I assume everyone would like it to. These have been nagging bugs for quite some time. I know getting changes into vte at the gnome level has been slow, any chance of use addressing the issues at a distribution level? -Jon

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gnome-vfs ftp icon
by Peter Backlund 29 Oct '04

29 Oct '04

Hello. AFAICS the gnome-vfs icon for ftp (gnome-fs-ftp.png) is still missing from the Bluecurve theme. Would it be possible to get it into FC3? I think this bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=120404 is the corresponding BZ entry. /Peter -- Peter Backlund <peter.backlund(a)home.se>

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fedora 3 and mono
by Patricio Bruna V 28 Oct '04

28 Oct '04

Hi i just make a pairs of RPM for mono (gtk-sharp exactly) that works with fedora 3. The packages for fedora 2 in the site mono-project.com works fine under fedora 3 with this gtk-sharp packages. you can download from: ftp://ftp.linuxcenter.cl/pub/fedora/core/3/mono/ thats all. -- Patricio Bruna http://www.linuxcenterla.com Ingeniero de Proyectos Canada # 239 Piso 5 Red Hat Certified Engineer Providencia, Santiago - CHILE Linux Center Latinoamerica Fono: +56 2 2745000, Fax : +56 2 2747075

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LTSP or Stateless Linux
by Adriano Galano 28 Oct '04

28 Oct '04

Hello: Could sometbody tell me the differences between LTSP and Stateless Linux project? How they compares? In wich situations is more recomendable one type of the architecture or other? Best regrards, -Adriano -- Adriano M. (bryam) Galano Díez In LiNUX and FLOSS since 1992 (R)

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