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eclipse native?
by Chuck Mead 29 Jul '04

29 Jul '04

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Some time ago there was some comment that eclipse was going native and was being readied for FC2 or FC3... did that go anywhere? - -- Chuck Mead <csm(a)redhat.com> Instructor II (and resident Postfix bigot), GLS Disclaimer: "It's Thursday and my name is Locutus of B0rk!" Addendum: "Bwahahaha! Fire up the orbital mind-control lasers!" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBCRDEZfy0juH51WsRAuzLAKCZNCLKJntoXR7K9gewWWD6h/2mrwCeKnx7 e/GB1EN+lSh1KnLmIL0Z8G4= =MDCy -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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move koffice and abiword/gnumeric to extras?
by Marius Andreiana 29 Jul '04

29 Jul '04

With recent extras discussions, looks like it's best to discuss each package before deciding moving to extras. What about koffice and abiword/gnumeric? Their only advantage seem to be lower memory requirements, but OpenOffice.org has a lot more functionality and it's the default. -- Marius Andreiana Galuna - Solutii Linux in Romania http://www.galuna.ro

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RE: linux registry (no, not that again!)
by Kenneth Benson 29 Jul '04

29 Jul '04

> -----Original Message----- > From: Felipe Alfaro Solana [mailto:felipe_alfaro@linuxmail.org] > Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 12:49 PM > To: Development discussions related to Fedora Core > Subject: Re: linux registry (no, not that again!) > [snip] > > 5) Why not show some leadership instead of just cloning > Unix/Posix - "As > > little as possible" need not be that same as "Not enough to > be complete" > > Because leadership doesn't allow one to start screwing a > working system. > > I'm sorry but I don't think what is there now is what could really be called a "working system". > -- > fedora-devel-list mailing list > fedora-devel-list(a)redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list >

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Altix 3000 working w/Arjan's latest Fedora Core kernel
by Erik Jacobson 29 Jul '04

29 Jul '04

This is just a quick note to say that Altix 3000 and 350 works with the Fedora Core Development kernel-2.6.7-1.499.ia64.rpm, available from Arjan's kernel page: http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.6/RPMS.kernel/ Note that, starting with this RPM, the console driver has changed. The device name is /dev/ttySG0 and it has a major number of 204 and minor number of 40. kudzu needs some adjustment to detect our console and the device file needs to be put in place - both things that will happen in the future. Hopefully this email is enough to get you started if you're interested in playing with it. -- Erik Jacobson - Linux System Software - Silicon Graphics - Eagan, Minnesota

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Re: linux registry (no, not that again!)
by markw＠mohawksoft.com 28 Jul '04

28 Jul '04

After lurking for some time, I have heard the call for some "registry-esque" facility in Linux for some time. I think there is an important distiction to be drawn very carefully, and it falls within the UNIX ideals. An API need not and should not imply the format of the data being modified. The API should be defined by "need," and the data storage should be designed to to (1) handle the API and (2) satisfy external requirements like text files, "/etc" default, subdirectories, etc. For the API, a simple NAME=VALUE paring is not good enough. As was pointed out by a previous post, Windows had a Private Profile API. When combined with a file name and a title heading should be good enough for most all configurations. Over time, I can easily see it gaining popularity. Like the Windows Registry, I can see this growing into a horrible monster. There will be demands for greater levels of hierachy, more flexable data handling and binary data. As more Windows developers jump ship and come to Linux, we old time UNIX geeks will be surrounded with windows developers adding bad things to Linux, not out of mallice, but out of habit. The need for a standardized configuration API is real. The requirement that it be optional is absolute. The desire for it to default to plain text files is important. The ability to change the data storage methodology is fundimental. The questions are: (1) How does this get implemented and propagated to the various projects? (2) How is it "contained" such that a Windows-like registry does not creep into Linux? (3) How do we provide for multiple storage handlers for cases like shared configuration? (4) How do we make sure that a specific storage handler does not get "defacto" mandated by a too popular program? In reallity, this is a very simple API library. The fact that there is no standard implies that it is a very hot potato and it is unlikely that it will get adopted.

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RE: linux registry (no, not that again!)
by Kenneth Benson 28 Jul '04

28 Jul '04

-----Original Message----- From: Kenneth Benson [mailto:sdhmis@sheratondover.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 1:41 PM To: 'Development discussions related to Fedora Core' Subject: RE: linux registry (no, not that again!) > -----Original Message----- > From: Felipe Alfaro Solana [ mailto:felipe_alfaro@linuxmail.org <mailto:felipe_alfaro@linuxmail.org> ] > Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 12:49 PM > To: Development discussions related to Fedora Core > Subject: Re: linux registry (no, not that again!) > [snip] > > 5) Why not show some leadership instead of just cloning > Unix/Posix - "As > > little as possible" need not be that same as "Not enough to > be complete" > > Because leadership doesn't allow one to start screwing a > working system. > > I'm sorry but I don't think what is there now is what could really be called a "working system". I apologize for sending that. In my defense I must note that I administer a property management system on a linux box and I *hate* the amount of work I have to do when some config gets screwed up. Half the time I spend is in just finding the damn config file.

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Speaking of rhn/up2date
by Leonard den Ottolander 28 Jul '04

28 Jul '04

Hi, Since up2date on FC has no longer anything to do with the Red Hat Network I was wondering why the relevant configuration directory in /etc/sysconfig is still called rhn. Isn't it time to change that into up2date instead? Maybe keep a compatibility symlink around for one release or so? Leonard. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research

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rawhide report: 20040728 changes
by Build System 28 Jul '04

28 Jul '04

Removed package fam Updated Packages: ORBit2-2.10.0-5 --------------- * Tue Jul 27 2004 Mark McLoughlin <markmc(a)redhat.com> 2.10.0-5 - Rebuilt * Tue Jul 27 2004 Mark McLoughlin <markmc(a)redhat.com> 2.10.0-4 - Backport alignment fix for 64 bit from 0.10.3 - fixes Nautilus crashing on startup (#126181). Thanks to Lamont R. Peterson <lamont(a)gurulabs.com> * Tue Jun 15 2004 Elliot Lee <sopwith(a)redhat.com> - rebuilt bind-9.2.4rc6-3 --------------- * Tue Jul 27 2004 Jason Vas Dias <jvdias(a)redhat.com> - Fixed bug 127555 : chroot tar missing var/named/slaves checkpolicy-1.14.2-1 -------------------- * Tue Jul 27 2004 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 1.14.2-1 - Latest from NSA foomatic-3.0.1-9 ---------------- * Tue Jul 27 2004 Tim Waugh <twaugh(a)redhat.com> 3.0.1-9 - Rebuilt. gd-2.0.28-1 ----------- * Tue Jul 27 2004 Phil Knirsch <pknirsch(a)redhat.com> 2.0.28-1 - Update to 2.0.28 gdb-6.1post-1.20040607.18 ------------------------- * Mon Jul 26 2004 Elena Zannoni <ezannoni(a)redhat.com> 1.200400607.18 - Add Pie patches back in. * Fri Jul 16 2004 Andrew Cagney <cagney(a)redhat.com> 1.200400607.17 - Fix stepping over a no-debug shared-library function. - Fix patch vsyscall patch name. * Thu Jul 08 2004 Jeff Johnston <jjohnstn(a)redhat.com> 1.200400607.16 - Update thread code with fix from gdb HEAD gdm-2.6.0.3-2 ------------- * Mon Jul 26 2004 Bill Nottingham <notting(a)redhat.com> 1:2.6.0.3-2 - fix theme (#128599) gnome-bluetooth-0.5.1-2 ----------------------- * Tue Jul 27 2004 Harald Hoyer <harald(a)redhat.com> - 0.5.1-2 - added pydir patch * Thu Jul 22 2004 Harald Hoyer <harald(a)redhat.com> - 0.5.1-1 - version 0.5.1 gnupg-1.2.5-0 ------------- * Tue Jul 27 2004 Nalin Dahyabhai <nalin(a)redhat.com> 1.2.5-1 - update to 1.2.5 gqview-1.4.3-2 -------------- * Tue Jul 27 2004 Christopher Aillon <caillon(a)redhat.com> 1.4.3-2 - Rebuild * Tue Jun 15 2004 Christopher Aillon <caillon(a)redhat.com> 1.4.3-1 - Update to 1.4.3 gstreamer-0.8.4-1 ----------------- * Mon Jul 26 2004 Colin Walters <walters(a)redhat.com> 0.8.4-1 - Update to 0.8.4 * Tue Jul 20 2004 Colin Walters <walters(a)redhat.com> 0.8.3.3-1 - Update gstreamer-plugins-0.8.2-5 ------------------------- * Tue Jul 27 2004 Colin Walters <walters(a)redhat.com> - 0.8.2-5 - Re-add ffmpegcolorspace, since it does not have patent issues - Restore smp_mflags gtk2-2.4.4-3 ------------ * Tue Jul 27 2004 Matthias Clasen <mclasen(a)redhat.com> - 2.4.4-3 - Use -64 suffix on powerpc64. (#128605) krb5-1.3.4-2 ------------ * Tue Jul 27 2004 Nalin Dahyabhai <nalin(a)redhat.com> 1.3.4-2 - fix indexing error in server sorting patch (#127336) libgnomeui-2.6.0-6 ------------------ * Tue Jul 27 2004 Colin Walters <walters(a)redhat.com> 2.6.0-6 - Revert unneeded dep on newer gtk * Thu Jul 22 2004 Colin Walters <walters(a)redhat.com> 2.6.0-5 - Backport fileselector crash fix from HEAD - Remove unneeded calls to autotools - Remove BR on autotools libwnck-2.6.0.1-4 ----------------- * Tue Jul 27 2004 Mark McLoughlin <markmc(a)redhat.com> 2.6.0.1-4 - Rebuilt * Tue Jul 27 2004 Mark McLoughlin <markmc(a)redhat.com> 2.6.0.1-3 - Patch from upstream which fixes a nasty viewport issue obvious when using it with sawfish (#120652) openoffice.org-1.1.2-1 ---------------------- * Tue Jul 27 2004 Dan Williams <dcbw(a)redhat.com> 1.1.2-1 - Force use of gcc 3.3, since gcc 3.4 doesn't work yet - Update to 1.1.2 - Compile with -Os - Fix dictionary permissions (RH #127474) - Apply iiimf-enable patch, disable workaround from 1.1.1-6 (RH #124538) - Tag language-specific files with %lang - Add Norwegian dictionaries (RH #122028) - Temporarily alias Australian hyph->en_GB, thes->en_US (RH #121675) * Tue Jun 15 2004 Elliot Lee <sopwith(a)redhat.com> - rebuilt pam-0.77-52 ----------- * Tue Jul 27 2004 Alan Cox <alan(a)redhat.com> 0.77-52 - First chunk of Steve Grubb's resource leak and other fixes * Tue Jul 27 2004 Alan Cox <alan(a)redhat.com> 0.77-51 - Fixed build testing of modules - Fixed dependancies pam_smb-1.1.7-5 --------------- * Tue Jul 27 2004 Alan Cox <alan(a)redhat.com> - Merge Steve Grubb's fixes pilot-link-0.11.8-7 ------------------- * Tue Jul 27 2004 Than Ngo <than(a)redhat.com> 0.11.8-7 - add patch to fix problem in loading data into Palm rhgb-0.12.3-1 ------------- * Tue Jul 27 2004 Daniel Veillard <veillard(a)redhat.com> 0.12.3 - update for translations, should fix #128288 rpmdb-fedora-3-0.20040728 ------------------------- selinux-policy-strict-1.15.8-3 ------------------------------ * Tue Jul 27 2004 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 1.15.8-3 - Fix tunables * Tue Jul 27 2004 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 1.15.8-1 - Latest from NSA * Mon Jul 26 2004 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 1.15.7-6 - New policy for bind, fix net_contexts selinux-policy-targeted-1.15.8-3 -------------------------------- * Tue Jul 27 2004 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 1.15.8-3 - Fix tunables * Tue Jul 27 2004 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 1.15.8-1 - Latest from NSA * Mon Jul 26 2004 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 1.15.7-6 - New policy for bind, fix net_contexts system-config-securitylevel-1.4.1-4 ----------------------------------- * Tue Jul 27 2004 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 1.4.1-4 - Fix so only changes made if gui activated. - Save backup copies of configs * Tue Jul 27 2004 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 1.4.1-3 - Fix several problems including Tunables being reported incorrectly. - Allow tool to reload policy if tunables change - Allow tool to change enforcing mode * Fri Jul 16 2004 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 1.3.14-2 - Remove checkbox from toplevel menu of tunables vixie-cron-4.1-2 ---------------- * Tue Jul 27 2004 Jason Vas Dias <jvdias(a)redhat.com> - 4.1-2 - Changed 'Requires' dependency from 'pam-devel' to 'pam'. * Mon Jul 26 2004 Jason Vas Dias <jvdias(a)redhat.com> - 4.1-1 - Added PAM access control support. xchat-2.0.10-3 -------------- * Mon Jul 26 2004 Christopher Aillon <caillon(a)redhat.com> 1:2.0.10-3 - Update upstream patch to fix tab completion crash - Add upstream patch to fix focus crash on some window managers. * Fri Jul 09 2004 Mike A. Harris <mharris(a)redhat.com> 1:2.0.10-2 - Added upstream xc2010-fixtabcomp.diff patch to fix SEGV in tab completion * Sat Jul 03 2004 Christopher Aillon <caillon(a)redhat.com> 1:2.0.10-1 - Update to 2.0.10

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Difference between FC2 x86_64 up kernel and boot kernel on FC2 amd64 dvd?
by Jeff Johnson 28 Jul '04

28 Jul '04

Greetings, I have a kernel module compiled against 2.6.5-1.358 uniprocessor that loads without error under that kernel. The version in Makefile was changed to 2.6.5-1.358 instead of 358custom. The module will load in an installed 2.6.5-1.358 OS but it will not load from the initrd boot kernel on the FC2 AMD64 boot DVD. The kernel versions appear to be the same, both are uniprocessor, both are x86_64 (not ia32e) and both are version 2.6.5-1.358. When I try and insmod the kernel module from the VC#2 shell it fails but I get no error message. Does anyone know if there is anything special about the boot kernel on the FC@-AMD64 DVD that is different from the 2.6.5-1.358 uniprocessor kernel that gets installed by this same DVD? The end goal is making a device driver diskette. The diskette and modules.cgz archive work fine but the driver module itself will not load, even if I manually extract it from the modules.cgz archive. Can't figure why it loads in the installed OS but not from the boot kernel/initrd on the FC2 DVD. Any help is appreciated! Jeff -- Best Regards, Jeff Johnson Vice President Engineering/Technology Western Scientific, Inc jeff(a)wsm.com http://www.wsm.com 9445 Farnham Street - San Diego, CA 92123 Tel 800.443.6699 +001.858.565.6699 Fax +001.858.565.6938 "Rome did not create a great Empire by holding meetings. They did it by killing all those who opposed them."

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Are the icons of rhn-applet free??
by Jaap A. Haitsma 28 Jul '04

28 Jul '04

Hi, I see in the license of rhn-applet that it is licensed under the GPL. Does that mean that the icons are also under the GPL. I'd like to use them in another app. Jaap

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