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KVM and the new virtio drivers
by Dennis Jacobfeuerborn 13 May '08

13 May '08

Hi, I'm trying to get a F9 guest running using the new virtio block device but seem to run into trouble with LVM. I rebuilt the initrd in the guest adding the options "--with=virtio_pci --with=virtio_blk" and after booting the kernel correctly detects vd1 and vd2 but then fails to find any volume groups. Using "media=disk" instead of "if=virtio" brings the guest up fine. Is there a special option needed to make the kernel/initrd find the volume group on these virtual block devices? Are these drivers stable enough to maybe put them into the initrd by default? I would be nice to be able to boot a F9 guest with the paravirtualized drivers out of the box without having to build a custom initrd image. Regards, Dennis

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LWN subscription lottery reminder
by Jef Spaleta 17 Apr '08

17 Apr '08

A heads up for those of you who have already seen the announcement over the weekend. I'm at 33 requests, I'm looking for at least 75. If you are interested but haven't sent in the details stop procrastinating and get your requests in. If you've forgotten what I'm talking about, refresh your memory here: http://jspaleta.livejournal.com/#item19142 Please do not reply back to this thread. I'm guaranteed to lose the request in the big inbox pile unless you do the following: email jspaleta(a)fedoraproject.org Subject: LWN subscription request Include: Your real name Your fas accountname your lwn accountname to be granted a subscription -jef"You'd think giving away freebies would be easier"spaleta

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prelink
by Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek 10 Apr '08

10 Apr '08

hi, today I have some kind of bad day - I'm filing many bugs and doing many things I wouldn't do in a usual day. I considered using prelink months ago but I was afraid. I run "prelink -amR" today, but I saw warning about PIC. I've read in Gentoo's docs that shared libraries must be compiled with -fPIC. We do we have -fPIC in CFLAGS not, while prelink in repo? -- Curious Livio

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Zimbra packages in Fedora
by Neal Gompa 08 Apr '08

08 Apr '08

I had noticed how well that Zimbra has been doing, and I was wondering if it would be possible for someone to make packages for Zimbra to be included in Fedora?

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proposal: add -Werror-implicit-function-declaration to the default optflags
by Hans de Goede 07 Apr '08

07 Apr '08

Hi all, This is a new thread spawning from the "3.6% of heads up: Please correct your #includes or optflags use" thread. I would like to propose to add "-Werror-implicit-function-declaration" to the default optflags. Why? Because missing prototypes can cause all sorts of problems: Anything (any function) that returns a pointer, will be a problem when compiled on 64 bit without a prototype, as the compiler will assume the return type is an int, and then cast that to a pointer as needed. Anything returning a float / double will be a problem regardless of 32/64 bits as only 32 bits of the returned floating point number will be taken and interpreted as an int (and then cast back to a float / double if used as such). Any function called with arguments of different type then expected (for example a float, where the function expects an int or visa versa) will have the same problem. Which is why I say: fix them all. Regards, Hans

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Fedora (again) forces me to disable SELinux
by Mark 07 Apr '08

07 Apr '08

Hey, I just installed the Fedora 9 Beta release and am doing a full system update as we speak. While downloading the updates nothing is wrong.. it just downloads and that's it. But when installing the updates i get a ton of selinux notices!! and this is just a default Fedora 9 beta followed by a yum -y update. Also another issue that i noticed was when looking at a flash animation in firefox.. when i want to play the animation selinux (again) drops in and tells me i can't. (or i need to run a command to get it working). Now i've tried to run selinux on Fedora 7 and 8 for as long as possible just to see how long i can get around it.. i did some commands in that time as well but i always end up with disabling selinux. I have no idea how other users are using fedora in a normal every day usage without disabling selinux.. i agree that a firewall should be in linux but selinux just doesn't seem mature yet (if it will ever be). Perhaps it's time to start considering to turn off selinux and remove it out of the fedora kernel completely? As long as it's blaming here when i install updates or simply browse the web than selinux gets shut down completely! So.. how are you doing this? Btw.. justging from the selinux stats here: http://smolts.org/static/stats/stats.html it says that nearly 50% (48.4%) is turning off selinux. And my guess is that all fedora servers keep it on making up the other 50%.

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Fedora i386 rawhide rebuild in mock status 2008-03-31
by Matt Domsch 06 Apr '08

06 Apr '08

Fedora Rawhide-in-Mock Build Results for i386 using rawhide from 3/29 and for any failures, again with 3/31 Full logs at http://linux.dell.com/files/fedora/FixBuildRequires/ Total packages: 5500 Number failed to build: 304 Number expected to fail due to ExclusiveArch or ExcludeArch: 13 Leaving: 291 (there may be some duplicates if rawhide has 2 versions of a package) Of those expected to have worked... 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inittab vs. /etc/sysconfig/init for runlevel 3/5
by Bill Nottingham 04 Apr '08

04 Apr '08

With the switch to upstart, we obviated the need for /etc/inittab (upstart does not need it, nor read it.) Initially, we added a quick hack that read /etc/inittab solely to determine the default runlevel. Based on a bug I filed (#432384), we changed that so that the key for runlevel 3 vs. runlevel 5 is GRAPHICAL in /etc/sysconfig/init, and we'e planning to just remove the inittab file to make things more obvious. I'm open to better ideas, though - should we ship a trimmed inittab that contains *only* the initdefault line? Should we introduce a new configuration flag somewhere else? Does it really matter in the long run? Bill

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Suggestion Next Release
by Diego Escobar 04 Apr '08

04 Apr '08

Hi: I have a suggestion about the default software for Fedora: First: In Latin America most part of people does´t have a fast Internet conection, and for this reason is difficult to install new software by YUM. Second: An important point that experts evaluate on a S.O. is "ready out of the box" and you supose how many changes you have to do to leave Fedora ready. With this ideas my suggestion is to include many software by default on Fedora (Especially in Fedora LiveCD) - OpenOffice - Linux Terminal Server (tsclient) - Vino - Yumex - Fedora Frog (Easy front-end) - Nautilus (always use browser by default) And why not? we can do easy including by default the most common repositories for Fedora: - Livna - Freshrpm I hope my suggestion will be taken into account. Remember, this idea is designed to do Fedora more competitive and more easy for the final user. Regards. Diego Escobar Fedora Ambassador for Colombia Fedora 8 Kernel Linux 2.6.24 + Gnome

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Packaging Guidelines: Why so lax for BuildRoot?
by Stephen Warren 04 Apr '08

04 Apr '08

I'm curious why the packaging guidelines aren't more specific re: the requirements for the BuildRoot tag. To my mind, the BuildRoot is a purely internal "implementation detail" of the build process, and no package should really depend on any specific detail of the BuildRoot value/location. So, I'm wondering: 1) Why doesn't Fedora specify a single BuildRoot value that all packages "MUST" use (and possibly script an update of all existing .spec files). 2) Going further, why not remove BuildRoot from all .spec files, and simply cause the "defined correct" value to be used without "manual" intervention. It seems one/both of the above would make reviewing easier; one less thing to check (or only a single precise thing to check for, without interpretation of what a "sane" BuildRoot is) I feel I must be missing something given the flexibility allowed by the guidelines. Any insight appreciated.

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