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avant-window-navigator (awn) in Fedora 17
by Damian Ivanov 26 Jul '12

26 Jul '12

Hello all, awn has been orphaned in F17 because latest bzr fails to build (0.4.1-XXX), though latest stable (0.4.0) builds fine. see https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=avant-window-navigator&proj… PS: Is there any chance Fedora will deprecate koj in favour of open build service (OBS). OBS seems to have all the koji features and more http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Build_Service_comparison

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retiring Pimlico suite of apps (contacts / dates / tasks)
by Peter Robinson 26 Jul '12

26 Jul '12

Hi All, The pimlico suite of apps originally designed for phones but useful standalone have been dead upstream for quite some time and with the restructuring of evolution are often breaking. Upstream gnome now has standalone Contacts and Calendar apps with a Tasks app planned and there's others that also substitute such as GTG. So unless anyone explicitly wants to maintain them I'll kill them off in the next couple of days. If you're interested get in touch. Peter

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Replacing grubby with grub2-mkconfig in kernel install process
by Ben Rosser 26 Jul '12

26 Jul '12

In Fedora 17, when you install grub2 and generate a fresh config file, that config is produced by grub2-mkconfig. However, when you install a kernel update, the kernel's entry is added to the grub2 boot menu by grubby. This produces messy grub boot menus. The entries added by grubby read something like "Fedora (%kernel_version)". grub2-mkconfig, on the other hand, only displays one "Fedora Linux" boot option and places the other kernels and their recovery mode environments in a submenu called "Advanced Options". Now, I never really liked seeing three kernels on the main menu to begin with, and I think the new grub2 approach of hiding the other kernels in a submenu is nice. But then as soon as I start installing updates the submenu becomes incomplete (and eventually useless, as the new kernels won't be listed there) and the grubby options take over the menu. It seems to me that we should make the boot menu more consistent somehow. I feel like the simplest solution is just to run grub2-mkconfig at every kernel update, and stop using grubby for this. Then everything would look consistent- the "Fedora Linux" boot option would have the latest kernel and all kernels would always be listed under the submenu. (As far as I know, this would just be a change to the kernel specfile, right?). Alternatively, if Fedora does want boot menus that look like the ones produced by grubby, then the grub2 default configuration should be changed to reflect that, so the boot menu will always look consistent. I should add that I did see a reference to possibly replacing grubby with a "grub-updconf" (though I'm not aware of such a program) on the wiki- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Grub2 - so possibly there are already plans for this? Ben

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Re: [Fontconfig] Heads up: Droid fonts update in Rawhide
by Nicolas Mailhot 26 Jul '12

26 Jul '12

Le Jeu 26 juillet 2012 09:32, Akira TAGOH a écrit : > Well, I see what Nicolas wants to do here. since Japanese characters > on Unicode's CJK Unified Ideographs is a subset of Chinese characters, > I think he wanted to avoid picking Droid Sans Japanese up for Chinese > anyway. Ideally, I'd like the target="scan" lang-specific rules to generate a form of simulated locl table. I know the current rules I use don't do that, but I guess they are a sort of RFE on my part :) I think Droid is a good showcase of the dead-end selecting-lang-by-font-name is : if we don't hide the various lang-specific droid names to the user, it only takes two or three droid-like families to make font selection totally unusable in most apps. Best regards, -- Nicolas Mailhot

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[ACTION REQUIRED v3] Retiring packages for F-18
by Bill Nottingham 26 Jul '12

26 Jul '12

Before we branch for Fedora 18, as is custom, we will block currently orphaned packages and packages that have failed to build since Fedora 16. The following packages are currently orphaned, or fail to build. If you have a need for one of these packages, please pick them up. If no one claims any of these packages, they will be blocked before we branch for Fedora 18. That is currently scheduled to happen on or around August 7th. Note that if you're receiving this mail directly, it's because you are a co-maintainer of one of these packages. Please work with your comaintainers to take up maintenance. Package archmage (orphan) Package boolstuff (orphan) Package cmucl (orphan) comaintained by: green Package drupal6-video (orphan) Package eclipse-m2m-qvtoml (fails to build) Package fillmore-lombard (fails to build) comaintained by: salimma Package gant (fails to build) Package genus2reduction (orphan) Package globalplatform (orphan) Package gpshell (orphan) Package gtkmm-utils (orphan) Package gtkpod (orphan) Package hamster-applet (orphan) Package hartke-aurulent-sans-fonts (orphan) Package healpix (fails to build) Package json (orphan) Package k12linux-quick-start-guide (orphan) Package kadu (fails to build) comaintained by: gajownik radekl Package libcrystalhd (fails to build) comaintained by: kwizart Package libgtkhotkey (orphan) Package libhid (fails to build) Package libqttracker (fails to build) comaintained by: jreznik Package libsoup22 (orphan) Package natus (fails to build) Package ncpfs (orphan) Package ntfs-config (fails to build) Package nvi (orphan) Package perl-Nagios-Plugin-Beanstalk (orphan) Package pfqueue (orphan) Package pino (fails to build) Package polyester (orphan) Package polyester3 (orphan) Package python-batchhttp (orphan) Package python-chm (orphan) Package python-pywt (fails to build) Package python-remoteobjects (orphan) Package python-typepad (orphan) Package qtparted (fails to build) Package selenium-remote-control (fails to build) Package torque (orphan) Package typepad-motion (orphan) Package upstart (orphan) Package winwrangler (orphan) List of deps left behind by packages which are orphaned or fail to build: Removing: healpix skyviewer requires chealpix-devel = 2.13a-2.fc14 skyviewer requires libchealpix.so Removing: libgtkhotkey synapse requires libgtkhotkey.so.1 Removing: libsoup22 libopensync-plugin-syncml requires libsoup22-devel = 2.2.105-9.fc15 libsyncml requires libsoup-2.2.so.8 libsyncml requires libsoup22-devel = 2.2.105-9.fc15 Removing: ncpfs hydra requires libncp.so.2.3 hydra requires ncpfs-devel = 2.2.6-17.fc18 hydra requires libncp.so.2.3(NCPFS.2.2.0.17) hydra requires libncp.so.2.3(NCPFS_2.2.0.19) hydra requires libncp.so.2.3(NCPFS_2.2.1) medusa requires libncp.so.2.3 medusa requires ncpfs-devel = 2.2.6-17.fc18 medusa requires libncp.so.2.3(NCPFS.2.2.0.17) medusa requires libncp.so.2.3(NCPFS_2.2.0.19) medusa requires libncp.so.2.3(NCPFS_2.2.1) Removing: python-batchhttp django-typepad requires python-batchhttp = 1.1-5.fc18 Removing: python-chm chm2pdf requires python-chm = 0.8.4-12.fc18 Removing: python-remoteobjects django-typepad requires python-remoteobjects = 1.1-5.fc18 Removing: python-typepad django-typepad requires python-typepad = 1.1.2-5.fc18 Removing: selenium-remote-control perl-Alien-SeleniumRC requires selenium-server = 1.0.3-8.20100318svn.fc15 Removing: torque pbstop requires torque-client = 3.0.4-1.fc17 pdsh requires torque-devel = 3.0.4-1.fc17 pdsh-mod-torque requires torque = 3.0.4-1.fc17 pdsh-mod-torque requires libtorque.so.2 perl-PBS requires libtorque.so.2 perl-PBS requires libtorque-devel = 3.0.4-1.fc17 python-pbs requires torque-devel = 3.0.4-1.fc17 python-pbs requires libtorque.so.2 python3-pbs requires libtorque.so.2 Removing: upstart clamav-milter-upstart requires /sbin/initctl clamav-scanner-upstart requires /sbin/initctl dhcp-forwarder-upstart requires /sbin/initctl ip-sentinel-upstart requires /sbin/initctl milter-greylist-upstart requires /sbin/initctl tor-upstart requires /sbin/initctl The script that generated this page can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/browser/scripts/find-unblocked-orphans.py There you can also report bugs and RFEs.

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F17 updates broke anaconda PNG image handling
by Jos Vos 25 Jul '12

25 Jul '12

Hi, While an anaconda/systemd problem is being worked on (bug #841822), now my next problem when making new F17 spins including all updates: anaconda can't display PNG images anymore. For all images it tries to open (and all these images do exist), it gives an error like: 17:47:31,122 ERR anaconda: unable to read anaconda_header.png: Couldn't recognize the image file format for file '/usr/share/anaconda/pixmaps/anaconda_header.png' Looking at the anaconda code, this error seems to be generated by getPixbuf() in /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/pyanaconda/gui.py, when it does a gtk.gdk.pixbuf_new_from_file(fn). Any suggestion on what could be causing this? Thx, -- -- Jos Vos <jos(a)xos.nl> -- X/OS Experts in Open Systems BV | Phone: +31 20 6938364 -- Amsterdam, The Netherlands | Fax: +31 20 6948204

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Fedora ARM weekly status meeting minutes 2012/07/25
by Paul Whalen 25 Jul '12

25 Jul '12

Good day all, Thanks to those who were able to join us for the weekly status meeting today. For those that were unable, the minutes are posted below: Meeting ended Wed Jul 25 20:49:27 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-07-25/fedora-meeting… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-07-25/fedora-meeting… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-07-25/fedora-meeting… Paul

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Ubuntu Unity has been ported to Fedora 17
by Neal Gompa 25 Jul '12

25 Jul '12

Hello, This morning, I woke up to the news that a group of developers have managed to successfully make Ubuntu's Unity Desktop work on Fedora 17[1]. What kind of work would be needed to get these people to be able to bring their work into the Fedora repository so that everyone can easily choose to use it without breaking stuff? [1]: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/07/unity-desktop-available-for-fedora

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A preupgrade adventure - F16 to F17
by Martin Langhoff 25 Jul '12

25 Jul '12

Just an informational anecdote. My main dev machine is a vanilla Lenovo X220 laptop, running an up-to-date F16. At OLPC, we are damned close to *shipping* a F17-based distro on our XO laptops, so I thought it'd be good to update. Worried about /usr move, I decided to DTRT: use preupgrade. First, preupgrade completely hides grubby errors, and tells you everthing's peachy. This cannot be a feature. I managed to hit a few grubby errors, and without the debug output from preupgrade-cli showing the grubby command it's running, I'd still be scratching my head... So grub configs were not being updated, for two reasons - My machine does not have /boot/grub/grub.cfg, it has grub.conf instead, so I hit BZ#841976 . Unsure why these conffiles are changing names, this was a fresh F16 install back when F16 was new. - Added the missing grub.cfg, grubby segfaults (BZ#841979). Ummpf! - The preupgrade wikipage helpfully provides instructions to edit grub.conf by hand. Completely wrong instructions. You don't want the /boot prefix there. You don't want "savedefault". You probably want to ensure you see the menu. I am no expert on what params the preupgrade initrd _really_ needs, but things did not move forward until I fixed it up and added the params that preupgrade was giving to the failing grubby. - And there I hit BZ#813973 - preupgrade (anaconda) garbles the URL so you only get 404s. The adventure continues, but at thistime I am under the impression that preupgrade gets far less testing and polish than yum upgrades. m -- martin.langhoff(a)gmail.com martin(a)laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff

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Outage of fedorahosted mailing lists and services
by Stephen John Smoogen 25 Jul '12

25 Jul '12

There will be an outage starting at 2012-07-26 16:00 UTC, which will last approximately 2 hours. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2012-07-26 16:00 UTC' Reason for outage: In order to grow the fedora hosted services we are moving the services email lists to a new server. This will require an outage of about an hour as we turn off old services.. sync data.. turn on new services. Affected Services: Fedora Hosted - https://fedorahosted.org/ Unaffected Services: Ask Fedora - http://ask.fedoraproject.org/ BFO - http://boot.fedoraproject.org/ Bodhi - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/ Buildsystem - http://koji.fedoraproject.org/ GIT / Source Control DNS - ns1.fedoraproject.org, ns2.fedoraproject.org Docs - http://docs.fedoraproject.org/ Email system Fedora Account System - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/ Fedora Community - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community/ Fedora Insight - https://insight.fedoraproject.org/ Fedora People - http://fedorapeople.org/ Main Website - http://fedoraproject.org/ Mirror List - https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/ Mirror Manager - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mirrormanager/ Package Database - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/ QA Services Secondary Architectures Smolt - http://smolts.org/ Spins - http://spins.fedoraproject.org/ Start - http://start.fedoraproject.org/ Torrent - http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/ Wiki - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ Ticket Link: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/3401 Contact Information: Please join #fedora-admin or #fedora-noc on irc.freenode.net or add comments to the ticket for this outage above. -- Stephen J Smoogen. "Don't derail a useful feature for the 99% because you're not in it." Linus Torvalds "Years ago my mother used to say to me,... Elwood, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. You may quote me." —James Stewart as Elwood P. Dowd

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