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F21 System Wide Change: cron to systemd time units
by Jaroslav Reznik 28 May '14

28 May '14

= Proposed System Wide Change: cron to systemd time units = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/cron-to-systemd-time-units Change owner(s): Jóhann B. Guðmundsson <johannbg AT gmail DOT com> Fix dependency on crontab in packages containing cron jobs as well as migrate cron jobs that are applicable to native systemd timer units. == Detailed description == Add dependency on crontab in packages containing cron jobs as well as migrate cron jobs that are applicable to native systemd timer units in packages that already depend on systemd. == Scope == * Policies and guidelines: ** Adjust packaging guidelines to fix dependency in cron packages [Package Cron Files 1] DONE ** Adjust packaging guidelines to mention migration of cron jobs to timer units for packages that already depend on systemd * Fix spec files in packages that are not applicable for migration [Fix Cron Dependency Tracking Bug 2] * Review and migrate if applicable cron jobs shipped in packages that already depend on systemd [Timer Migration Tracking Bug 3] * Update systemd wikipage to contain timer units example [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/CronFiles [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=947037 [3] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=991679 _______________________________________________ devel-announce mailing list devel-announce(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce

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Attempting to contact three unresponsive maintainers
by Toshio Kuratomi 15 May '14

15 May '14

Greetings, we've been told that the email addresses for three package maintainers are no longer valid. I'm starting the unresponsive maintainer policy to find out if they are still interested in maintaining their packages (and if so, have them update their email addresses in FAS). If they're not interested in maintaining or we can't locate them I'll have FESCo orphan the packages so that others can take them over. If you have a way to contact any of these maintainers, please let them know that we'd appreciate knowing what to do with their packages. Thanks! Maintainers: * awnuk -- former email address awnuk(a)redhat.com - comaintainer of dogtag-pki, dogtag-pki-theme, pki-console, pki-core, pki-ra, and pki-tps * llim -- Lawrence Lim -- former email address llim(a)redhat.com - Bugzilla owner of redhat-lsb * osier -- Osier Yang -- former email address jyang(a)redhat.com - comaintainer of libvirt If we get to the point of removing acls for these people, only redhat-lsb will need a new owner. The other packages just have these package maintainers as comaintianers. -Toshio

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heads up: plist/usbmux/imobiledevice soname bumps
by Peter Robinson 10 May '14

10 May '14

Hi All, There's a new devel release of the above just landed. I'll be looking to get them into rawhide over the new couple of days but there's been quite some change so I'm going to deal with it all locally first to see what the impact is before I push it. Peter

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F21 System Wide Change: Java 8
by Jaroslav Reznik 06 May '14

06 May '14

= Proposed System Wide Change: Java 8 = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Java8 Change owner(s): Omair Majid <omajid(a)redhat.com> Make Java 8 (provided by OpenJDK 8 which is java-1.8.0-openjdk) the default Java runtime. The current default Java runtime (Java 7, provided by OpenJDK 7, java-1.7.0-openjdk) will be obsoleted and removed. This is essentially an upgrade to the latest Java and OpenJDK version. == Detailed Description == The current default Java 7 runtime in Fedora is OpenJDK 7. The latest version of OpenJDK, 8, was released on 18 March 2014. Given that Fedora 21 will not be released before August, it makes sense to include the latest version of OpenJDK in Fedora 21. OpenJDK 8 is a significant update to Java. It brings in significant new features to the Java language, including lambdas, a new javascript engine and lots of new library features. A complete list of features is available [1]. OpenJDK 8 is a backwards compatible update. Theoretically everything that worked against OpenJDK 7 should continue working against OpenJDK 8. There are a few exceptions: OpenJDK8 is much more strict when it comes to building javadocs. Many - javadoc package in Fedora fail to build. Those that are built should continue working just fine. Packages that rely on non-public OpenJDK API may fail to build/run. A complete list of incompatibilities is available [2]. The incompatibilities are source and behavioral only. It may be a good idea to mass rebuild Java packages against OpenJDK 8 to spot any source incompatibilities earlier. This is not required. == Scope == * Proposal owners: ** Deprecate/Obsolete java-1.7.0-openjdk ** Promote java-1.8.0-openjdk to a full java runtime status (fix provides in package) ** In case of a mass rebuild, supply/apply patches to fix build against OpenJDK 8 * Other developers: ** icedtea-web maintainers will need to update icedtea-web to run against OpenJDK 8 ** Other java packagers will need to apply patches to their java package to ensure they can build against OpenJDK 8 ** Everyone will need to test packages to verify that they work against OpenJDK 8 * Release engineering: ** Remove java-1.7.0-openjdk ** Possibly mass-rebuild (?) all Java packages. This is not strictly required to make OpenJDK 8 the default Java runtime. * Policies and guidelines: ** Many -javadoc packages fail to build. The OpenJDK 8 maintainers and the Java SIG are working on identifying a solution. The solution may require [3] guideline changes making -javadoc subpackages optional. [1] http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk8/features [2] http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/8-compatibility-guide-2156366… [3] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2014-March/196808.html _______________________________________________ devel-announce mailing list devel-announce(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce

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Removing python-setuptools-devel backwards compat
by Toshio Kuratomi 19 Apr '14

19 Apr '14

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Heads up: Mesa/LLVM rebase and OpenGTL retirement in F20
by Adam Jackson 16 Apr '14

16 Apr '14

We'd like to update to Mesa 10.1 in Fedora 20, since the cycle is so long before F21 and (among other goodies) it enables OpenGL 3.3 on some newer Radeons. This implies rebasing LLVM 3.4, and that's where it gets a little awkward: the OpenGTL package only works up to LLVM 3.3. However, OpenGTL is dead upstream, and the only thing requiring it in F20 gold - calligra-krita, by way of libQtGTL - has already been updated to Obsolete OpenGTL. As far as I know OpenGTL is the only such package we have requiring LLVM 3.3, so the rest of the rebase should just be a matter of updating to match F21. The following source packages will also be updated for the llvm rebase: dragonegg gambas3 pocl pure python-llvmpy If there are no serious objections I'll try to get this all into testing early next week. If you _do_ happen to be using OpenGTL for something in F20, now would be an excellent time for you to start working on porting it to current LLVM. - ajax

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Help understanding Anaconda source - walk through needed.
by Aaron Gray 10 Apr '14

10 Apr '14

Hi, I am looking for someone to walk me through the Anaconda source as I need to understand it and cannot find where its 'main' is and how it launches X Windows as I need to work out why the main installer is not working on my HP D140 G3's with MCA video controllers. https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/anaconda.git/tree/?h=f20-branch Hope someone kind person has time to help me. Regards, Aaron

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Review swap...
by Darryl L. Pierce 10 Apr '14

10 Apr '14

Ive got a package review for compat-qpid-cpp [1] and am willing to trade reviews. [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1080583 -- Darryl L. Pierce <mcpierce(a)gmail.com> http://mcpierce.blogspot.com/ Famous last words: "I wonder what happens if we do it this way?"

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Agenda for Env-and-Stacks WG meeting (2014-04-01)
by Marcela Mašláňová 07 Apr '14

07 Apr '14

WG meeting will be at 12:00 UTC, 14:00 Central Europe, 8:00 Boston, 5:00 San Francisco, 21:00 Tokyo in #fedora-meeting on Freenode. I hope time make sense. Otherwise please comment the thread about meeting time. == Topic == * Automatically approve topics, which weren't refused on mailing list: * Open Questions - Playground: Signing * Open Questions - Playground: Provenpackagers * Approve on list or irc: * Open Questions - distinguish packages * Does my proposal passed or not? * Proposal: Do not try to distinguish them. Rpmfusion packages also don't have different dist tag. You can find out if really want to by rpm -something or check key, which will be also different. * Open Questions - Playground: reviews * Are conflicts inside Playground repository allowed? * How many other checks do we want to have? * 1 Big repo vs multiple small ones - finally decide which one to pick * finish change proposal https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Env_and_Stacks/Changes_Drafts/Playground_rep… Marcela

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Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2014-03-11)
by Matthew Miller 02 Apr '14

02 Apr '14

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Wednesday at 18:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. ---> NOTE: we are keeping to the same time UTC despite the daylight savings time switch. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d 'YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM UTC' Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9 = Followups = #topic #1178 Fedora 21 scheduling strategy .fesco 1178 https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1178 #topic #1243 Consider release blocking status of KDE spin(?) for Fedora 21 in .next decision-making .fesco 1243 https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1243 #topic #1230 Requesting FESCo address Cherokee logo issue .fesco 1230 https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1230 = New business = #topic #1244 F21 System Wide Change: cron to systemd time units .fesco 1244 https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1244 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/cron-to-systemd-time-units #topic #1245 F21 System Wide Change: System-wide crypto policy .fesco 1245 https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1245 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/CryptoPolicy #topic #1246 F21 System Wide Change: Access control in PCSC .fesco 1246 https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1246 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/PcscAccessControl #topic #1247 F21 System Wide Change: Remove python-setuptools-devel .fesco 1247 https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1247 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Remove_Python-setuptools-devel #topic #1248 F21 System Wide Change: Ruby 2.1 .fesco 1248 https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1248 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Ruby_2.1 #topic #1249 F21 System Wide Change: Lohit Odia Gurmukhi font naming .fesco 1249 https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1249 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes//Lohit_Odia_Gurmukhi #topic #1250 F21 Self Contained Changes for week 11 .fesco 1250 https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1250 - Allwiner sunxi ARM SoC support https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AllwinnerSunxiSupport - OpenCL https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OpenCL = Open Floor = For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9 If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting. -- Matthew Miller -- Fedora Project -- <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org>

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