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whatever happened to yum + btrfs snapshotting?
by Neal Becker 13 Mar '17

13 Mar '17

Some time back there was discussion of being able to rollback yum updates via btrfs snapshotting. As I recall, it turned out that the default btrfs install was not setup correctly to make this feasible (I had briefly tested it on my machine). I haven't heard anything since - this seems like a great idea. -- -- Those who don't understand recursion are doomed to repeat it

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RFC: static builds for user emulators in Fedora QEMU RPMs
by Daniel P. Berrange 14 Jan '17

14 Jan '17

For those who aren't familiar, QEMU actually provides two completely different sets of emulators - system emulators - they emulate a full virtual machine and thus run a full guest OS. - user emulators - they emulate the Linux userspace ABI letting you run non-native arch executables directly. The user emulators are what I'm concerned with in this mail, so ignore the system emulators. Currently all the user emulators are provided in the "qemu-user" RPM which also includes files in /usr/lib/binfmt.d to register each emulator binary as a binary format handler for its respective architecture. This is ok if you have a non-native arch binary that's statically linked and you just want to run it from context of your main OS root filesystem. Running dynamic linked binaries won't fly because if say running an arm binary on x86_64 host, it'll look for /lib/libc.so and find the i386 one, instead of the arm one. You can't set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to override this as the env var will apply to both qemu-arm (an x86_64 binary) and the binary it is trying to run (an arm binary). More typical though is that you have a directory containing an fullish install tree of a non-native architecture and you just want to chroot into that. When doing such a chroot, the qemu-$ARCH emulator must be present inside the chroot too. ie the x86_64 build of /usr/bin/qemu-arm must be present inside at /my/chroot/for/fedora-arm/usr/bin/qemu-arm. So again you have the potential problem of clashing libc.so in /usr/lib It is a shame Fedora doesn't have full multi-arch support, instead of merely multi-lib to avoid these clashing lib dirs across architecture RPMs. The recommended way to deal with this for the qemu user emulator binaries to be statically linked, so when copied inside the non-native arch chroot, they never need to resolve any native arch libraries. Fedora's qemu user binaries are all dynamic linked right now. Debian handles this by having several packages [1] - qemu-user - the dynamic linked qemu user binaries - qemu-binfmt - binfmt rules registering the dynamic linked binaries - qemu-user-static - the static linked qemu user binaries *and* binfmt rules to register them. The static binaries all have -static suffix on their name NB, this means qemu-binfmt and qemu-user-static are mutually exclusive since they both provide the same binfmt files. You can however have both qemu-user and qemu-user-static installed as their binary names won't clash, and in this case the static ones will be registered as binfmts This nice thing about this multiple package approach is that when you copied the x86_64 build of the "qemu-arm-static" binary into your arm chroot, you still then have the possibility of installing the arm build of the "qemu-arm" binary inside that chroot without filename clash. An alternative simpler approach would be to just have one package, qemu-user, which contains the static binaries and never ship any dynamic linked qemu user binaries. This is slightly more restrictive though, as explained in the previous paragraph, so I'd like to avoid doing that. I'd like to make using non-native arch chroots simple with Fedora without people needing to manually build their own static QEMU binaries, or download static binaries provided by another distro[2]. So I'm suggesting to make a change to Fedora qemu packages to essentially copy the way Debian has done things. Specifically I will - Pull the binfmt registration files out of qemu-user and into a new qemu-binfmt package which depends on qemu-user. - Add static builds of qemu user emulators to a new qemu-user-static package, along with binfmt registration files The static build of QEMU user emulators is moderately light on dependancies, only requiring glib2-static, pcre-static, zlib-static and glibc-static packages. The change to introduce a qemu-binfmt package has small upgrade implications since anyone with qemu-user installed today, will loose the binary format rules unless they manually install qemu-binfmt. I think the number of people affected is probably quite small, and some of them may well wish to use qemu-user-static instead anyway. Obviously this would only be done in rawhide, not any existing stable releases of Fedora. Nothing will change about the rest of QEMU packaging - ie all system emulators will continue to use dynamic linking Regards, Daniel [1] https://wiki.debian.org/QemuUserEmulation [2] https://rwmj.wordpress.com/2013/12/22/how-to-run-aarch64-binaries-on-an-x86… -- |: http://berrange.com -o- http://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange/ :| |: http://libvirt.org -o- http://virt-manager.org :| |: http://autobuild.org -o- http://search.cpan.org/~danberr/ :| |: http://entangle-photo.org -o- http://live.gnome.org/gtk-vnc :|

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BuildRequires on obsoleted packages provided by Python
by Charalampos Stratakis 11 Jan '17

11 Jan '17

Hello all, While checking out the SPEC file of python, it seems there were some packages that, while separate at some point, they got included in python's stdlib and then obsoleted as standalone packages (thus to cope with the change, python was obsoleting these packages and providing them as well in the SPEC). So every package that currently (Build)Requires any of these packages will essentially drag python with it. I will remove these provides soon, since the packages were orphaned long time ago, but the packages that still require them, will need to be fixed and (Build)Require python instead. Here is a github commit with these changes from a testing repo: https://github.com/fedora-python/python2-spec/commit/dfdd96e653d65ce6835955… And a list of the provided packages and the affected ones Distutils: None python-sqlite: cas yum python-ctypes: drobo-utils glusterfs-extra-xlators glusterfs-geo-replication python-smbios python-hashlib: pyrpkg python-uuid: dpm-server-mysql oz python2-celery python-argparse: R2spec catkin diskimage-builder euca2ools fedora-review feedstail gfal2-util glacier-cli grin hash-slinger imagefactory instack libstoragemgmt nordugrid-arc-nagios-plugins os-apply-config os-cloud-confic os-collect-confic os-net-config pyrpkg python-amqpclt python-catkin_pkg python-catkin_tools python-cloudservers python-gear python-novaclient python-postman python-requestbuilder python-rosdistro python-rospkg python-sparklines python2-oslo-config repo_manager rpkg vdsm Depending on feedback here I will follow (or not) the mass bug filling procedure so maintainer fix their packages. The reasoning behind this change, at the current time, is that I intent to rename python to python2 soon, which will lead to a re-review of python, so at the moment trying to have things as clear and consistent as possible. Plans for that change is only for rawhide (although it would be nice for f25 as well). Regards, Charalampos Stratakis Associate Software Engineer Python Maintenance Team, Red Hat

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No Boost update in F25
by Jonathan Wakely 09 Dec '16

09 Dec '16

Hi, I messed up the change proposal for Boost 1.61 in F25, which means it isn't on the schedule. Given the huge amount of work involved in every Boost update, I'm not going to be too upset if I don't have to do it! How upset will other people be if F25 ships with Boost 1.60 (same as in F24)? Then F26 would get an update, possibly skipping 1.61 and going straight to 1.62 which should be out by then. Boost 1.61 adds four new libraries: Boost.Compute, Boost.DLL, Boost.Hana and Boost.Metaparse. Full 1.61 release notes: http://www.boost.org/users/history/version_1_61_0.html

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[HEADS UP] broken/fixed gnupg2-2.1.13 and pygpgme renamed to python-pygpgme
by Igor Gnatenko 20 Nov '16

20 Nov '16

... with couple of minor bugfixes and critical bugfix which prevents DNF to work with GPG verification[0]. Some time ago DNF tests started failing in koschei after update of gnupg2 to 2.1.13. I bisected it and found that they added some new flag which helps to get more information about certificate[1] - STATUS_KEY_CONSIDERED. I found that upstream of gpgme also reacted on that feature[2], so I backported it in our package[3]. And finally made patch to fix problem in pygpgme[4]. Alogn with this I realized that pygpgme spec needs some love (like cleaning stuff, adding %check section to run tests, backporting patches) and renaming, so I sent new one for review[5] and created repo with our (Fedora) fixes on top of dead upstream package[6]. Packagers, feel free to start depending on python2- subpackage as it has been splitted from main pkg. tl;dr; pygpgme has been fixed and renamed to python-pygpgme has been fixed (and automatically DNF), just test and leave +1 for f23[7] and f24[8]. Thanks for attention! [0] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1359521 [1] https://git.gnupg.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=gnupg.git;a=commit;h=ff71521d969… [2] https://git.gnupg.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=gpgme.git;a=commit;h=315fb73d4a7… [3] http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/rpms/gpgme.git/commit/?id=ffc545a8fdafac… [4] https://pagure.io/pygpgme/c/f14699792622715c9cec372400f9dc38f1122f63?branch… [5] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1358357 [6] https://pagure.io/pygpgme [7] https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-33b89975fe [8] https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-198d93bc53 -- -Igor Gnatenko

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iphone mount in nautilus on Fedora 24
by Dusty Mabe 12 Oct '16

12 Oct '16

In older Fedora (at least Fedora 22) I could easily mount my ihphone in Nautilus. I could click on it in the left hand side of the File Manager and it would mount. I am having trouble getting this same behavior in Fedora 24. Can someone verify this works or does not work for them? You should be able to verify this with Fedora 24 + Gnome + iphone + iphone cable. Thanks, Dusty

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Proposal: remove insecure WebKitGTK+ packages for F27
by Michael Catanzaro 08 Oct '16

08 Oct '16

Hi, I propose we retire the webkitgtk and webkitgtk3 packages when branching rawhide for F26 (expected to occur roughly February 2017), and forbid unretiring them. All their dependencies would then be removed from from Fedora according to the normal process shortly before the release of F27 (excepted to occur May 2017). If nobody objects, we'll carry out this plan shortly after the F26 branch point. Question: Why retire these packages? Answer: Affected applications that process untrusted input are vulnerable to roughly 150 unfixed security vulnerabilities, the overwhelming majority of which are remote code execution vulnerabilities. The severity of this situation arguably outweighs the benefit of keeping affected applications around. Question: This sounds horrible, we should act soon. Why wait until F26? Answer: Porting to the new WebKitGTK+ API is easy for many applications, but for applications that use the DOM API it can be expected to take some time, as this API has moved to the web process and accessing it requires writing a web process extension. If we were to use F25 as the deadline, there would not be sufficient time for applications to be ported. Porting efforts should begin as soon as possible. Question: What if my application doesn't process untrusted input? Answer: If you're sure your application never processes untrusted input, it is a special flower. You should request a bundling exception from FESCo if you do not intend to upgrade. Question: You're horrible for proposing to remove my packages. Answer: WebKit1 was deprecated in March 2013. Packages have had three years to upgrade. It's clear at this point that this problem won't ever be fixed without a hard deadline that is enforced. But this is a fair point; it sucks a lot that compatibility is not offered here. Such is the cost of free software.... Question: We usually allow compatibility libraries to exist indefinitely. Why so strict with WebKit? Answer: Our compatibility libraries do not usually have upwards of 150 unfixed remote code execution vulnerabilities. Backporting fixes is not practical in this situation. Question: But these packages are still included in RHEL. Isn't Red Hat providing security updates? Answer: No. Question: Will you help port my packages to newer WebKit? Answer: We'll answer questions, but unfortunately we can only provide serious assistance to priority GNOME packages. evolution-data-server threatens to take out gnome-shell if removed, for instance, which is why we waited until the Evolution port is nearing completion to propose this. Question: What if my application depends on GTK+ 2? Answer: You must first port to GTK+ 3, then port to WebKit2. You may find it more practical to stop using WebKitGTK+. Question: What if my application needs to work on Windows? Answer: WebKit2 is not supported on Windows. You will need to either commit to developing Windows support, or stop using WebKitGTK+. Question: I hear QtWebKit is insecure too, why punish only GTK+ apps? Answer: QtWebKit has not had security updates since ~2012 and so has even more unfixed vulnerabilities. However, an unofficial effort is underway to rebase QtWebKit on the upstream WebKit project. The plan is to make regular QtWebKit releases based on the latest WebKitGTK+ stable branch, meaning there should be regular security updates. This is still a work in progress, but once completed, Fedora will be able to switch upstreams and solve this issue without the need to port applications to QtWebEngine. No such compatibility effort is planned for WebKitGTK+. Question: Where can I view WebKitGTK+ security advisories? Answer: http://webkitgtk.org/security.html Question: Where can I learn more? Answer: https://blogs.gnome.org/mcatanzaro/2016/02/01/on-webkit-security-updates/ Question: What would be removed if this were to occur today? Answer: If you read this far, please seriously look over these lists. Some big name applications are included. $ repoquery --whatrequires --recursive webkitgtk Yum-utils package has been deprecated, use dnf instead. See 'man yum2dnf' for more information. 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webkitgtk3-devel-0:2.4.11-1.fc24.i686 webkitgtk3-devel-0:2.4.11-1.fc24.x86_64 webkitgtk3-doc-0:2.4.11-1.fc24.noarch why3-emacs-0:0.87.0-3.fc24.noarch wicd-curses-0:1.7.3-2.fc23.noarch wicd-gtk-0:1.7.3-2.fc23.noarch wings-0:2.0.4-1.fc24.x86_64 winpdb-0:1.4.8-11.fc24.noarch wuja-0:0.0.8-16.fc24.noarch wxGTK3-0:3.0.2-19.fc24.i686 wxGTK3-0:3.0.2-19.fc24.x86_64 wxGTK3-devel-0:3.0.2-19.fc24.i686 wxGTK3-devel-0:3.0.2-19.fc24.x86_64 wxGTK3-docs-0:3.0.2-19.fc24.noarch wxGTK3-gl-0:3.0.2-19.fc24.i686 wxGTK3-gl-0:3.0.2-19.fc24.x86_64 wxGTK3-media-0:3.0.2-19.fc24.i686 wxGTK3-media-0:3.0.2-19.fc24.x86_64 wxGTK3-xmldocs-0:3.0.2-19.fc24.noarch wxGlade-0:0.7.2-1.fc24.noarch wxMaxima-0:15.08.2-2.fc24.x86_64 wxPython-0:3.0.2.0-10.fc24.x86_64 wxPython-devel-0:3.0.2.0-10.fc24.i686 wxPython-devel-0:3.0.2.0-10.fc24.x86_64 wxPython-docs-0:3.0.2.0-10.fc24.noarch wxsqlite3-0:3.3.2-0.1gitb05867d.fc24.i686 wxsqlite3-0:3.3.2-0.1gitb05867d.fc24.x86_64 wxsqlite3-devel-0:3.3.2-0.1gitb05867d.fc24.i686 wxsqlite3-devel-0:3.3.2-0.1gitb05867d.fc24.x86_64 xemacs-tuareg-0:2.0.10-0.2.1c837e26.fc24.noarch xiphos-gtk3-0:4.0.4-3.fc24.x86_64 xylib-0:1.4-8.fc24.i686 xylib-0:1.4-8.fc24.x86_64 xylib-devel-0:1.4-8.fc24.i686 xylib-devel-0:1.4-8.fc24.x86_64 yaws-0:2.0-2.fc24.x86_64 yaws-devel-0:2.0-2.fc24.i686 yaws-devel-0:2.0-2.fc24.x86_64 Note that work is already in progress for some of the above. Active porting efforts are underway for Evolution (which will take care of the mass of evolution-data-server dependencies like gnome-shell and gdm), Geary, and Liferea. There are also stalled porting efforts for inactive projects like Empathy, Bijiben, and Midori; these efforts have significant progress and could easily be resurrected. Question: What if we're not willing to remove packages? Answer: Well, then we'll just have to watch the count of unfixed remote code execution vulnerabilities increase forever, because there's no chance all of the above packages will be ported; we could set the deadline 10 years in the future and it still wouldn't happen. If we decide we're not willing to remove packages, I would suggest renaming the WebKit packages to webkitgtk-insecure and webkitgtk3-insecure to clarify the situation. Question: :( Answer: \_(ツ)_/ Michael

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[Guidelines change] Changes to the packaging guidelines
by Jason L Tibbitts III 05 Oct '16

05 Oct '16

Here are the recent changes to the packaging guidelines. ----- The Filesystem Layout section of the guidelines was simplified and outdated information was removed. * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Filesystem_Layout * https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/623 ----- The outdated section restricting dependencies between /bin and /usr has been removed. * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Binaries_in_.2Fbin_and_… (now deleted) * https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/624 ----- A set of guidelines for GAP packages has been added. * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:GAP * https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/625 ----- A section has been added to the guidelines which documents the procedure for deviation from those guidelines. Work will now begin to clarify the language in existing guidelines into the usual SHOULD and MUST categories to help reduce confusion surrounding the "strength" of guidelines. * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#General_Exception_Policy * https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/633 ----- Due to the addition of RPM file triggers, the scriptlet guidelines have been amended to indicate that some scriptlets should not be used in F24+. Specifically: gsettings schemas, gdk-pixbuf loaders, gtk+ 3 modules, gio modules and mimeinfo. Also, update-desktop-database should not be used as of Fedora 25. * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Scriptlets * https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/636 ----- The review process document has been amended to note possible exceptions, and to indicate that review is not needed in certain situations where a different version of an existing package is being added. * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:ReviewGuidelines#Package_Review_Pr… * https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/637 ----- Corrected the suggest source URL for tarballs hosted on pypi to use https://files.pythonhosted.org * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Python#Example_common_spec_file * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:SourceURL#Python_Packages_.28pypi.… * https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/640 ----- The running of system daemons as the "nobody" user has been forbidden. * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Users_and_Groups * https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/642 _______________________________________________ devel-announce mailing list devel-announce(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel-announce@lists.fedoraproj…

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Retiring python-slimit in Rawhide
by Stephen Gallagher 01 Oct '16

01 Oct '16

Upstream is dead (website is gone), it hasn't seen a release in over three years and nothing in Fedora relies on it anymore.

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Installing alsa-ucm by default in F25?
by Bastien Nocera 13 Sep '16

13 Sep '16

Hey, alsa-ucm contains routing information to setup sound codecs on some machines, usually SoC-based. It contains configuration that's mostly relevant to ARM devices, but also a few Atom (CherryTrail and Broadwell) related SoCs on Intel. Could we install alsa-ucm by default? As it is necessary for PulseAudio to be able to use those devices, should we get it dragged in as a PA dependency? Cheers

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