We have all dealt with the good, the bad, and the ugly of gnome-terminal/vte. Don't get me wrong, it has been my terminal of choice as long as I have run redhat/fedora. The speed output has always been an issue for me, but it wasn't until recently that the tabbed redraw problem became apparent to me. I always switch my terminal to a black background with grey fonts, so it wasn't until I started rolling my customized fedora core 2 desktop out to my coworkers that the multi-tab black background bug was ever a factor.
The speed issue was addresed in the patch attached to this bugzilla, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=132770 , which I have found fantastic. Without the mad skills of this excellent programmer I addressed the lesser of the two evils, the tabbed black background bug. My debugging led to a less elegant, but harmless and effective solution with a patch attached to this bug, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=100420 .
Between the two patches I now have a gnome-terminal that just works how I want it, and how I assume everyone would like it to. These have been nagging bugs for quite some time. I know getting changes into vte at the gnome level has been slow, any chance of use addressing the issues at a distribution level?
-Jon
On Wed, 2004-10-27 at 20:48 -0400, Jon Nettleton wrote:
The speed issue was addresed in the patch attached to this bugzilla, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=132770 , which I have found fantastic.
Indeed, we should have applied that one IMO, it fell through the cracks since it wasn't on the tracker bugs. I added it now and we could get it in an update or in FC4 or whatever.
Kudos to Soeren for profiling and optimizing vte while the rest of us speculated about the problem in long mailing list threads ;-)
Havoc
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 23:48:15 -0400, Havoc Pennington hp@redhat.com wrote:
On Wed, 2004-10-27 at 20:48 -0400, Jon Nettleton wrote:
The speed issue was addresed in the patch attached to this bugzilla, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=132770 , which I have found fantastic.
Indeed, we should have applied that one IMO, it fell through the cracks since it wasn't on the tracker bugs. I added it now and we could get it in an update or in FC4 or whatever.
Kudos to Soeren for profiling and optimizing vte while the rest of us speculated about the problem in long mailing list threads ;-)
Yes kudos to them. Please make this an update and definately a tracker for RHEL-4 as it is a problem that I get told why RH sucks daily...
just a follow up. I have a spec file that includes the two patches if anyone is interested. I would be happy to post it for enyone inteerested...and go Sox!!!! The curse has finally ended!!!
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:51:06 -0600, Stephen J. Smoogen smooge@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 23:48:15 -0400, Havoc Pennington hp@redhat.com wrote:
On Wed, 2004-10-27 at 20:48 -0400, Jon Nettleton wrote:
The speed issue was addresed in the patch attached to this bugzilla, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=132770 , which I have found fantastic.
Indeed, we should have applied that one IMO, it fell through the cracks since it wasn't on the tracker bugs. I added it now and we could get it in an update or in FC4 or whatever.
Kudos to Soeren for profiling and optimizing vte while the rest of us speculated about the problem in long mailing list threads ;-)
Yes kudos to them. Please make this an update and definately a tracker for RHEL-4 as it is a problem that I get told why RH sucks daily...
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On Wed, Oct 27, 2004 at 08:48:33PM -0400, Jon Nettleton wrote:
The speed issue was addresed in the patch attached to this bugzilla, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=132770 , which I have found fantastic. Without the mad skills of this excellent
I have found that a simple way to speed up vte rendering considerably is the use of bitmap (=non-AA) fonts. This might be common knowledge or not. I think I heard pango being blamed in the past for such a large gap in performance.
That said, the other improvements mentioned in the bugzilla report are definitely worth an updated package after the FC3 release.
On Wed, Oct 27, 2004 at 08:48:33PM -0400, Jon Nettleton wrote:
We have all dealt with the good, the bad, and the ugly of gnome-terminal/vte. Don't get me wrong, it has been my terminal of
[snip]
Another last-minute vte bug to look at: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=135537
I haven't tested the patch there, but I can reproduce the problem reported there. This bug report is about the seemingly random display corruption that happens with vi, etc. -- IOW a *much* more annoying problem than the speed or the black background problem. (And it has a 100% reproducible test case of this -- finally!)
-Barry K. Nathan barryn@pobox.com
tor, 28.10.2004 kl. 08.17 skrev Barry K. Nathan:
On Wed, Oct 27, 2004 at 08:48:33PM -0400, Jon Nettleton wrote:
We have all dealt with the good, the bad, and the ugly of gnome-terminal/vte. Don't get me wrong, it has been my terminal of
[snip]
Another last-minute vte bug to look at: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=135537
I haven't tested the patch there, but I can reproduce the problem reported there. This bug report is about the seemingly random display corruption that happens with vi, etc. -- IOW a *much* more annoying problem than the speed or the black background problem. (And it has a 100% reproducible test case of this -- finally!)
Scroll some upwards, and some lines get missed out? seen that...
-Barry K. Nathan barryn@pobox.com
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004, Jon Nettleton wrote:
We have all dealt with the good, the bad, and the ugly of gnome-terminal/vte. Don't get me wrong, it has been my terminal of choice as long as I have run redhat/fedora. The speed output has always been an issue for me, but it wasn't until recently that the tabbed redraw problem became apparent to me. I always switch my terminal to a black background with grey fonts, so it wasn't until I started rolling my customized fedora core 2 desktop out to my coworkers that the multi-tab black background bug was ever a factor.
The speed issue was addresed in the patch attached to this bugzilla, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=132770 , which I have found fantastic. Without the mad skills of this excellent programmer I addressed the lesser of the two evils, the tabbed black background bug. My debugging led to a less elegant, but harmless and effective solution with a patch attached to this bug, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=100420 .
Oh yes... me likes this a lot.
In case anybody cares, current rawhide vte enhanced with the above two patches built for FC2 can be found here: http://fedora.laiskiainen.org/RPMS.patches/ http://fedora.laiskiainen.org/SRPMS.patches/
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