I'm planning on moving our firewall from a Fedora/shorewall system to a pfsense based one. Since I will no longer be using shorewall, I will be orphaning it. If you are interested in it, let me know and I would be happy to hand it off.
I am new to package maintaining, but Alteeve's Niche uses Shorewall in one of our offerings, and I'd be happy to take it on. Our tech lead is available to assist as well. Thank you for all of your work on the package!
-- Alex Bruneau Technician, Alteeve's Niche! Inc. 145 Front St East, Toronto, Canada abruneau@alteeve.ca
I'll take co-maintainer to assist Alex as she comes up to speed. I maintained the "cluster" package in Fedora up until it was retired in F16. I'm a little rusty now, but shorewall is a fairly simple package and we already maintain a repo of our own, so I expect little trouble.
digimer
On 17/12/15 10:48 AM, Alex Bruneau wrote:
I am new to package maintaining, but Alteeve's Niche uses Shorewall in one of our offerings, and I'd be happy to take it on. Our tech lead is available to assist as well. Thank you for all of your work on the package!
-- Alex Bruneau Technician, Alteeve's Niche! Inc. 145 Front St East, Toronto, Canada abruneau@alteeve.ca -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
On 12/17/2015 05:27 PM, Digimer wrote:
I'll take co-maintainer to assist Alex as she comes up to speed. I maintained the "cluster" package in Fedora up until it was retired in F16. I'm a little rusty now, but shorewall is a fairly simple package and we already maintain a repo of our own, so I expect little trouble.
digimer
On 17/12/15 10:48 AM, Alex Bruneau wrote:
I am new to package maintaining, but Alteeve's Niche uses Shorewall in one of our offerings, and I'd be happy to take it on. Our tech lead is available to assist as well. Thank you for all of your work on the package!
So, Alex (nyz ?) appears to not be a packager, and I can't find digimer's FAS name. I'll just have to ask that people add themselves to the package:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/rpms/shorewall/
On 17/12/15 09:26 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote:
On 12/17/2015 05:27 PM, Digimer wrote:
I'll take co-maintainer to assist Alex as she comes up to speed. I maintained the "cluster" package in Fedora up until it was retired in F16. I'm a little rusty now, but shorewall is a fairly simple package and we already maintain a repo of our own, so I expect little trouble.
digimer
On 17/12/15 10:48 AM, Alex Bruneau wrote:
I am new to package maintaining, but Alteeve's Niche uses Shorewall in one of our offerings, and I'd be happy to take it on. Our tech lead is available to assist as well. Thank you for all of your work on the package!
So, Alex (nyz ?) appears to not be a packager, and I can't find digimer's FAS name. I'll just have to ask that people add themselves to the package:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/rpms/shorewall/
I just added myself as a watcher.
Alex (nick is 'nyz', yes) just setup her account today. I'll chat with her tomorrow about setting up on FAS.
On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 11:03:46PM -0500, Digimer wrote:
On 17/12/15 09:26 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote:
On 12/17/2015 05:27 PM, Digimer wrote:
I'll take co-maintainer to assist Alex as she comes up to speed. I maintained the "cluster" package in Fedora up until it was retired in F16. I'm a little rusty now, but shorewall is a fairly simple package and we already maintain a repo of our own, so I expect little trouble.
digimer
On 17/12/15 10:48 AM, Alex Bruneau wrote:
I am new to package maintaining, but Alteeve's Niche uses Shorewall in one of our offerings, and I'd be happy to take it on. Our tech lead is available to assist as well. Thank you for all of your work on the package!
So, Alex (nyz ?) appears to not be a packager, and I can't find digimer's FAS name. I'll just have to ask that people add themselves to the package:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/rpms/shorewall/
I just added myself as a watcher.
Alex (nick is 'nyz', yes) just setup her account today. I'll chat with her tomorrow about setting up on FAS.
I see this is still orphaned. I am happy to step in if you guys changed your mind, as I use shorewall quite a bit in my setups.
Please let me know, Michele
On 08/02/16 08:56 AM, Michele Baldessari wrote:
On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 11:03:46PM -0500, Digimer wrote:
On 17/12/15 09:26 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote:
On 12/17/2015 05:27 PM, Digimer wrote:
I'll take co-maintainer to assist Alex as she comes up to speed. I maintained the "cluster" package in Fedora up until it was retired in F16. I'm a little rusty now, but shorewall is a fairly simple package and we already maintain a repo of our own, so I expect little trouble.
digimer
On 17/12/15 10:48 AM, Alex Bruneau wrote:
I am new to package maintaining, but Alteeve's Niche uses Shorewall in one of our offerings, and I'd be happy to take it on. Our tech lead is available to assist as well. Thank you for all of your work on the package!
So, Alex (nyz ?) appears to not be a packager, and I can't find digimer's FAS name. I'll just have to ask that people add themselves to the package:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/rpms/shorewall/
I just added myself as a watcher.
Alex (nick is 'nyz', yes) just setup her account today. I'll chat with her tomorrow about setting up on FAS.
I see this is still orphaned. I am happy to step in if you guys changed your mind, as I use shorewall quite a bit in my setups.
Please let me know, Michele
I want to take it over, but work has proven more busy that I expected. If you have the cycles, please take it. I would be happy to be co-maintainer though. This would have been my first package, so it's probably smarter if I helped someone with experience rather than try to do it myself. :)
On 02/08/2016 08:56 AM, Digimer wrote:
On 08/02/16 08:56 AM, Michele Baldessari wrote:
On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 11:03:46PM -0500, Digimer wrote:
On 17/12/15 09:26 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote:
On 12/17/2015 05:27 PM, Digimer wrote:
I'll take co-maintainer to assist Alex as she comes up to speed. I maintained the "cluster" package in Fedora up until it was retired in F16. I'm a little rusty now, but shorewall is a fairly simple package and we already maintain a repo of our own, so I expect little trouble.
digimer
On 17/12/15 10:48 AM, Alex Bruneau wrote:
I am new to package maintaining, but Alteeve's Niche uses Shorewall in one of our offerings, and I'd be happy to take it on. Our tech lead is available to assist as well. Thank you for all of your work on the package!
So, Alex (nyz ?) appears to not be a packager, and I can't find digimer's FAS name. I'll just have to ask that people add themselves to the package:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/rpms/shorewall/
I just added myself as a watcher.
Alex (nick is 'nyz', yes) just setup her account today. I'll chat with her tomorrow about setting up on FAS.
I see this is still orphaned. I am happy to step in if you guys changed your mind, as I use shorewall quite a bit in my setups.
Please let me know, Michele
I want to take it over, but work has proven more busy that I expected. If you have the cycles, please take it. I would be happy to be co-maintainer though. This would have been my first package, so it's probably smarter if I helped someone with experience rather than try to do it myself. :)
I've orphaned this now. Interested parties step up and take it.
On Mon, Feb 08, 2016 at 10:56:11AM -0500, Digimer wrote:
I see this is still orphaned. I am happy to step in if you guys changed your mind, as I use shorewall quite a bit in my setups.
I want to take it over, but work has proven more busy that I expected. If you have the cycles, please take it. I would be happy to be co-maintainer though. This would have been my first package, so it's probably smarter if I helped someone with experience rather than try to do it myself. :)
Thanks, Digimer. I have taken ownership. Please do add yourself to the ACLs and we can work on maintaining it together. I have updated it locally and will test it once I am back home at the end of this week. After that I will update it to 5.x in rawhide only for now.
cheers, Michele
On 09/02/16 06:12 AM, Michele Baldessari wrote:
On Mon, Feb 08, 2016 at 10:56:11AM -0500, Digimer wrote:
I see this is still orphaned. I am happy to step in if you guys changed your mind, as I use shorewall quite a bit in my setups.
I want to take it over, but work has proven more busy that I expected. If you have the cycles, please take it. I would be happy to be co-maintainer though. This would have been my first package, so it's probably smarter if I helped someone with experience rather than try to do it myself. :)
Thanks, Digimer. I have taken ownership. Please do add yourself to the ACLs and we can work on maintaining it together. I have updated it locally and will test it once I am back home at the end of this week. After that I will update it to 5.x in rawhide only for now.
cheers, Michele
Fantastic, thanks!
You should not orphan packages in rawhide, not cause of "not used any more". Check upstream for activity and users. What about future security patches? To retire shorewall is obviously a bad idea. I would be happy to see someone to take and continue shorewall maintainership, at least in rawhide. But I do not feel competent enough to do it by myself.
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On 02/08/2016 08:31 AM, Raphael Groner wrote:
You should not orphan packages in rawhide, not cause of "not used any more". Check upstream for activity and users. What about future security patches? To retire shorewall is obviously a bad idea. I would be happy to see someone to take and continue shorewall maintainership, at least in rawhide. But I do not feel competent enough to do it by myself.
Orphaning isn't the same as "retiring". Orphaning means "I can't maintain this any more" and it's an invitation for someone else to step up and do so.
On Mon, Feb 08, 2016 at 01:31:12PM -0000, Raphael Groner wrote:
You should not orphan packages in rawhide, not cause of "not used any more". Check upstream for activity and users. What about future security patches? To retire shorewall is obviously a bad idea.
That's quite the opposite, you can orphan a package on any branch, because the git repo remains open, people can still step in and fix eventual issues, it's just that there is no-one actively maintaining the package. Retiring can only be done in rawhide, branch (pre-alpha) and EPEL branches.
So if you want to stop maintaining a packager, orphaning it is definitely the thing to do. Once it has been orphaned for a little while, it will be retired from rawhide (iirc, at the time we branch) and slowly it will be retired on all activate branches of Fedora.
We're all volunteers, time comes and goes. It is totally fine to say: I can no longer make the time to maintain foo/bar, do X, Y, and orphaning packages is also fine.
Pierre
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