Hi,
There's been a thread over on fedora-maintainers list for a few weeks proposing that fedora-maintainers be shut down, as it simply serves bifurcate discussion between here (devel) and there. All responses were in favour. Many people didn't respond, probably because they don't bother reading fedora-maintainers. As an aside, notice how quickly the discussion about naming F8 moved to devel simply because people weren't signed up to -maintainers. There has been a lot of discussion about list reorganization - let's not rehash that. One uncontentious point seems to be, -maintainers must die.
What is the quickest way of getting this done? Which of the myriad committees does this need to go through?
Jonathan.
On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 22:26:24 +0100 "Jonathan Underwood" jonathan.underwood@gmail.com wrote:
What is the quickest way of getting this done? Which of the myriad committees does this need to go through?
I will be pushing this through FESCo tomorrow.
On 05/09/07, Jesse Keating jkeating@redhat.com wrote:
On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 22:26:24 +0100 "Jonathan Underwood" jonathan.underwood@gmail.com wrote:
What is the quickest way of getting this done? Which of the myriad committees does this need to go through?
I will be pushing this through FESCo tomorrow.
Brilliant. Thanks!.
Seems to me that the "-maintainers must die" slogan is screaming to be immortalized on a t-shirt soon. Kinda like "Vote for Pedro". :) Sorry for the late gallows humor but it just struck me as funny.
Peace, tims
Jonathan Underwood jonathan.underwood@gmail.com wrote: On 05/09/07, Jesse Keating wrote:
On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 22:26:24 +0100 "Jonathan Underwood" wrote:
What is the quickest way of getting this done? Which of the myriad committees does this need to go through?
I will be pushing this through FESCo tomorrow.
Brilliant. Thanks!.
On 9/5/07, Timothy Spaulding tspauld98@yahoo.com wrote:
Seems to me that the "-maintainers must die" slogan is screaming to be immortalized on a t-shirt soon. Kinda like "Vote for Pedro". :) Sorry for the late gallows humor but it just struck me as funny.
Fedora 8 "-maintainers Edition" anyone?
On 05/09/07, Timothy Spaulding tspauld98@yahoo.com wrote:
Seems to me that the "-maintainers must die" slogan is screaming to be immortalized on a t-shirt soon. Kinda like "Vote for Pedro". :) Sorry for the late gallows humor but it just struck me as funny.
Only if we can have a "Credits" button in the installer ... and the credits made entirely from images of food :)
Oh, and one of the maintainers of Anaconda should do a dance routine at the end.
On 05/09/07, Jesse Keating jkeating@redhat.com wrote:
On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 22:26:24 +0100 "Jonathan Underwood" jonathan.underwood@gmail.com wrote:
What is the quickest way of getting this done? Which of the myriad committees does this need to go through?
I will be pushing this through FESCo tomorrow.
If the mailing list software allows the use of +FOO suffix, an alternative to mailing list proliferation is to have a main -devel-list (like now), with major subcategories suffixed at the end?
People can then filter and prioritize their list messages accordingly.
Cheers,
On 05/09/07, Jesse Keating jkeating@redhat.com wrote:
On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 22:26:24 +0100 "Jonathan Underwood" jonathan.underwood@gmail.com wrote:
What is the quickest way of getting this done? Which of the myriad committees does this need to go through?
I will be pushing this through FESCo tomorrow.
If the mailing list software allows the use of +FOO suffix, an alternative to mailing list proliferation is to have a main -devel-list (like now), with major subcategories suffixed at the end?
People can then filter and prioritize their list messages accordingly.
Cheers,
-- Michel ps right now it does not support "implicit destinations" like this -- I just tested it
Michel Salim wrote:
On 05/09/07, Jesse Keating jkeating@redhat.com wrote:
On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 22:26:24 +0100 "Jonathan Underwood" jonathan.underwood@gmail.com wrote:
What is the quickest way of getting this done? Which of the myriad committees does this need to go through?
I will be pushing this through FESCo tomorrow.
If the mailing list software allows the use of +FOO suffix, an alternative to mailing list proliferation is to have a main -devel-list (like now), with major subcategories suffixed at the end?
People can then filter and prioritize their list messages accordingly.
Cheers,
A good point, but there are also 'topics' supported by mailman. There are currently no topics defined for any of the redhat lists I'm aware of, but they could be. The user interface (once logged in) allows everyone subscribed to choose which topics to receive mailings and which to ignore, and that would accomplish the goal and reduce the mail traffic on both ends.
If enough people really want to get rid of things like update announcements coming in on one list, I would think creating a subtopic for the list might be a good solution.
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 11:56:58 -0800 Andrew Farris lordmorgul@gmail.com wrote:
A good point, but there are also 'topics' supported by mailman. There are currently no topics defined for any of the redhat lists I'm aware of, but they could be. The user interface (once logged in) allows everyone subscribed to choose which topics to receive mailings and which to ignore, and that would accomplish the goal and reduce the mail traffic on both ends.
If enough people really want to get rid of things like update announcements coming in on one list, I would think creating a subtopic for the list might be a good solution.
fedora-package-announce uses topics for each fedora release, so people can choose to only get announcements about the release they are using. Off and on I was working on a regex that would work to add a topic for the test releases as well, but I haven't got that done yet.
Jesse Keating wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 11:56:58 -0800 Andrew Farris lordmorgul@gmail.com wrote:
A good point, but there are also 'topics' supported by mailman. There are currently no topics defined for any of the redhat lists I'm aware of, but they could be. The user interface (once logged in) allows everyone subscribed to choose which topics to receive mailings and which to ignore, and that would accomplish the goal and reduce the mail traffic on both ends.
If enough people really want to get rid of things like update announcements coming in on one list, I would think creating a subtopic for the list might be a good solution.
fedora-package-announce uses topics for each fedora release, so people can choose to only get announcements about the release they are using. Off and on I was working on a regex that would work to add a topic for the test releases as well, but I haven't got that done yet.
Ah ok good to hear thats an alternative looked into. I do think the 'updates@fedoraproject.org' package announces to fedora-test-list is a good subtopic candidate, unless those are actually going to get moved. Without getting too complex all those package announcements together might be one big 'on/off' rather than choosing which related test releases to receive on that list.
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