Currently the #fedora channel on freenode requires some kind of registration. In my opinion it is pretty difficult to register on freenode (I have tried but haven't managed). Do you think it would be possible to drop the registration requirement? It is a pretty big barrier to newbies and people like me who can't find IRC help easily. I know there are a lot of bots and spam, but maybe it would be possible to try and see if it really gets bad?
Best regards Andreas
On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 19:31:01 +0200 Andreas Tunek andreas.tunek@gmail.com wrote:
Currently the #fedora channel on freenode requires some kind of registration.
Yeah. It has for many years...
In my opinion it is pretty difficult to register on freenode (I have tried but haven't managed).
What part of the process is proving to be difficult? If you aren't registered and try and join #fedora it sends you to #fedora-unregistered where the entry message, topic and a bot all give you links showing how to register. Is there something that could be more clear here?
Do you think it would be possible to drop the registration requirement? It is a pretty big barrier to newbies and people like me who can't find IRC help easily. I know there are a lot of bots and spam, but maybe it would be possible to try and see if it really gets bad?
Well, you are welcome to file a ticket and request that with the irc support sig: https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/
But I don't think it's too likely to happen for a lot of reasons:
* Originally the registration was put in place when there were floods of racist ranter bots on freenode. They are much less common now, but I still see them in unregistered from time to time.
* There's also a lot of drive by spam and trollers that get caught by registration.
kevin
Maybe we can use ASM and fedbot to reduce the spam load? Dedicated spammers are definitely a problem for all channels, but most channels, such as #freenode enable +r during a wave of flood, not indefinitely.
I can absolutely agree that having the registration requirement flag certainly increases the barrier to something newbies or those "trying out" may not be willing to commit. They may just give up instead of registering and getting help. I personally try to avoid things that require email sign ups as much as possible, and I know others do too.
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015, 1:45 PM Kevin Fenzi kevin@scrye.com wrote:
On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 19:31:01 +0200 Andreas Tunek andreas.tunek@gmail.com wrote:
Currently the #fedora channel on freenode requires some kind of registration.
Yeah. It has for many years...
In my opinion it is pretty difficult to register on freenode (I have tried but haven't managed).
What part of the process is proving to be difficult? If you aren't registered and try and join #fedora it sends you to #fedora-unregistered where the entry message, topic and a bot all give you links showing how to register. Is there something that could be more clear here?
Do you think it would be possible to drop the registration requirement? It is a pretty big barrier to newbies and people like me who can't find IRC help easily. I know there are a lot of bots and spam, but maybe it would be possible to try and see if it really gets bad?
Well, you are welcome to file a ticket and request that with the irc support sig: https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/
But I don't think it's too likely to happen for a lot of reasons:
Originally the registration was put in place when there were floods of racist ranter bots on freenode. They are much less common now, but I still see them in unregistered from time to time.
There's also a lot of drive by spam and trollers that get caught by registration.
kevin
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On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 11:18:56 +0000 Chaoyi Zha cydrobolt@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Maybe we can use ASM and fedbot to reduce the spam load? Dedicated spammers are definitely a problem for all channels, but most channels, such as #freenode enable +r during a wave of flood, not indefinitely.
I can absolutely agree that having the registration requirement flag certainly increases the barrier to something newbies or those "trying out" may not be willing to commit. They may just give up instead of registering and getting help. I personally try to avoid things that require email sign ups as much as possible, and I know others do too.
Well, you signed up to this list to post this right? ;)
kevin
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 4:18 AM, Chaoyi Zha cydrobolt@fedoraproject.org wrote:
certainly increases the barrier to something newbies or those "trying out" may not be willing to commit.
Here are the instructions on how to register your nick: https://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
The first thing the guide discusses is WHY you should register.
As far as procedures go, this one ranks as one of the easiest IMO.
2015-06-10 20:11 GMT+02:00 Gerald B. Cox gbcox@bzb.us:
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 4:18 AM, Chaoyi Zha cydrobolt@fedoraproject.org wrote:
certainly increases the barrier to something newbies or those "trying out" may not be willing to commit.
Here are the instructions on how to register your nick: https://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
The first thing the guide discusses is WHY you should register.
As far as procedures go, this one ranks as one of the easiest IMO.
This is the actual instruction for registering taken from here: https://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
My comments are in the <<< parts.
What is the recommended way to set up my IRC nickname?
Please follow these steps to set up your nick and configure your client. Check off each step to make sure it's been done:
Select a permanent, master nickname. If the nickname you want is registered but has expired, just ask a staffer and in most cases, we will be happy to drop it for you.
Please avoid using the name of a community project or trademarked entity, to avoid conflicts. Write down your password and be sure to keep the sheet of paper in a safe place.
Register your IRC nick:
/msg NickServ REGISTER password youremail@example.com
<<<< Where do I type this? Maybe if you are an experienced irc user you would know where, but most people in the world arent.
Replace password with a secure, unguessable password that you keep secret.
The email address that you select will not be given out by staff, and is mainly used to allow us to help you recover the account in the event that you forget your password. For this reason, you are required to use a real, non-disposable, email address. Upon registering, you will receive an email with a verification command that you will need to run to complete the registration process. Failure to verify the account will cause it to be automatically dropped after about 24 hours.
To keep your email address private, rather than displaying it publicly, mark it as hidden (which is done by default for new accounts):
/msg NickServ SET HIDEMAIL ON
It's useful, but not required, to have an alternate nick grouped to your account. For example, if your primary nick is foo:
/nick foo_
then identify to your primary account:
/msg NickServ IDENTIFY foo password
and finally, group the new nick to your account
/msg NickServ GROUP
<<<Do I need to do this?
We prefer you to use just one account, and group nicks to it as described above, rather than registering for multiple accounts. Grouping nicks in this way gives you the benefit of having all your nicks covered by the same cloak, should you choose to wear a cloak.
The exception to this is where you might want to run a bot. You should register a separate account for your bot.
Configure your client to identify itself to NickServ automatically whenever it connects to freenode so that it's less likely you'll connect to the network without being identified to NickServ. The easiest approach is to specify your NickServ password as a server password.
If your client supports server password, please set this up as accountname:password. Make sure to include the colon. This will allow you to identify to your services account on connect, regardless of the nickname you are using when you connect. For example:
/connect chat.freenode.net 6667 mquin:uwhY8wgzWw22-zXs.M39p
I did not understand where to write the commands in Polari (the highest rated IRC client in Fedora Software), but maybe it is easier in other clients?
/Andreas
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On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Andreas Tunek andreas.tunek@gmail.com wrote:
This is the actual instruction for registering taken from here: https://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
*Same instructions.... my link is a paragraph above so people could understand the why register part.*
<<<< Where do I type this? Maybe if you are an experienced irc user you would know where, but most people in the world arent.
*You need to look at the instructions for how to send messages using your client. *
Heh, of course, but I didn't sign up to get support. I wouldn't sign up to a list for a one-time thing, I would need to be a bit more involved with something to be motivated enough to sign up for a list.
On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 at 13:20 Kevin Fenzi kevin@scrye.com wrote:
On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 11:18:56 +0000 Chaoyi Zha cydrobolt@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Maybe we can use ASM and fedbot to reduce the spam load? Dedicated spammers are definitely a problem for all channels, but most channels, such as #freenode enable +r during a wave of flood, not indefinitely.
I can absolutely agree that having the registration requirement flag certainly increases the barrier to something newbies or those "trying out" may not be willing to commit. They may just give up instead of registering and getting help. I personally try to avoid things that require email sign ups as much as possible, and I know others do too.
Well, you signed up to this list to post this right? ;)
kevin
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2015-06-10 21:51 GMT+02:00 Gerald B. Cox gbcox@bzb.us:
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Andreas Tunek andreas.tunek@gmail.com wrote:
This is the actual instruction for registering taken from here: https://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
Same instructions.... my link is a paragraph above so people could understand the why register part.
<<<< Where do I type this? Maybe if you are an experienced irc user you would know where, but most people in the world arent.
You need to look at the instructions for how to send messages using your client.
Yeah, you have to do a lot of quite complicated stuff before you can register and get any support via irc. To register to this mailing list you just send an email (or can you fill in a form as well).
/Andreas
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On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Andreas Tunek andreas.tunek@gmail.com wrote:
Yeah, you have to do a lot of quite complicated stuff before you can register and get any support via irc. To register to this mailing list you just send an email (or can you fill in a form as well).
Complicated is relative. If you don't understand how it works, it's best to research. There are many guides a google search away.
IRC can be helpful for support, but being interactive you're assuming that someone is standing by waiting for you to ask a question - which may or may not be the case. IRC is more functional for online meetings and group discussions. Mailing lists, forums, bugzilla, etc. are better for support and investigation of issues.
On Wed, 2015-06-10 at 11:20 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
Well, you signed up to this list to post this right? ;)
Please also note that the IRC is not the only place we provide support. Users that aren't technical enough to sign up at the IRC can use http://ask.fedoraproject.org - which is really easy to use.
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 01:50:31PM -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Andreas Tunek andreas.tunek@gmail.com wrote:
Yeah, you have to do a lot of quite complicated stuff before you can register and get any support via irc. To register to this mailing list you just send an email (or can you fill in a form as well).
Complicated is relative. If you don't understand how it works, it's best to research. There are many guides a google search away.
IRC can be helpful for support, but being interactive you're assuming that someone is standing by waiting for you to ask a question - which may or may not be the case. IRC is more functional for online meetings and group discussions. Mailing lists, forums, bugzilla, etc. are better for support and investigation of issues.
Also IRC is either not archived and made searchable, or where it is archived it's usually hard to follow the conversation thread.
Therefore we answer questions on IRC over and over and over again. (In #libguestfs I try to add such questions to our FAQ, when I have the time and remember to do it). https://ask.fedoraproject.org or mailing lists are a much better solution.
Rich.
On Mon, 2015-06-15 at 11:22 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 01:50:31PM -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Andreas Tunek <andreas.tunek@gmail .com> wrote:
Yeah, you have to do a lot of quite complicated stuff before you can register and get any support via irc. To register to this mailing list you just send an email (or can you fill in a form as well).
Complicated is relative. If you don't understand how it works, it's best to research. There are many guides a google search away.
IRC can be helpful for support, but being interactive you're assuming that someone is standing by waiting for you to ask a question - which may or may not be the case. IRC is more functional for online meetings and group discussions. Mailing lists, forums, bugzilla, etc. are better for support and investigation of issues.
Also IRC is either not archived and made searchable, or where it is archived it's usually hard to follow the conversation thread.
Therefore we answer questions on IRC over and over and over again. (In #libguestfs I try to add such questions to our FAQ, when I have the time and remember to do it). https://ask.fedoraproject.org or mailing lists are a much better solution.
To set the cat among the pigeons a bit, it'd sure be interesting to consider setting up one of the F/OSS Slack-alikes for Fedora use...of course, there's a question of at what point we have too many tools.
On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 02:36:08PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
To set the cat among the pigeons a bit, it'd sure be interesting to consider setting up one of the F/OSS Slack-alikes for Fedora use...of course, there's a question of at what point we have too many tools.
I'd be very much in favor of something which lowers the barrier to participation here. IRC isn't hard once you're used to it, but NickServ, ChanServ, Zodbot, etc., add a layer of confusion and complication. It's not just newbies and non-geeks that we're shutting out. Only a small percentage of tech people - sysadmins, developers, etc. - have a working familiarity with IRC.
It'd be especially nice to have something which could integrate with FAS and with the Fedora Hubs.
On Wed, 2015-10-14 at 08:44 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 02:36:08PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
To set the cat among the pigeons a bit, it'd sure be interesting to consider setting up one of the F/OSS Slack-alikes for Fedora use...of course, there's a question of at what point we have too many tools.
I'd be very much in favor of something which lowers the barrier to participation here. IRC isn't hard once you're used to it, but NickServ, ChanServ, Zodbot, etc., add a layer of confusion and complication. It's not just newbies and non-geeks that we're shutting out. Only a small percentage of tech people - sysadmins, developers, etc. - have a working familiarity with IRC.
It'd be especially nice to have something which could integrate with FAS and with the Fedora Hubs.
The only thing that concerns me is that at that point we'd have the new thing, IRC, Ask, *and* the mailing lists, soon with Hyperkitty which in some senses overlaps with all the others.
All of these are good things but would we have a coherent story about why we had all of them, and would it just make it a nightmare to find the right information / person?
Slack and its clones tend to want to be The Thing You Use To Communicate, I think, perhaps grudgingly allowing space for email to communicate with all those tiresome people from the 2000s...
On 10/14/2015 02:19 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
The only thing that concerns me is that at that point we'd have the new thing, IRC, Ask, *and* the mailing lists, soon with Hyperkitty which in some senses overlaps with all the others.
All of these are good things but would we have a coherent story about why we had all of them, and would it just make it a nightmare to find the right information / person?
So the intention with hubs is that it would have a web based chat interface that would use IRC. So if you prefer your old IRC client, keep using it; if you're a newbie and not familiar with IRC and want to communicate with Fedora folks, use Hubs chat (which is actually just the same IRC channels under the covers.)
Same thing with mailing lists / hyperkitty. If you prefer mailing lists, fine, stick with mutt or pine or $CLIENT_OF_CHOICE. If you're not into mailing lists you can read the messages and engage in convo directly in the hubs interface (we'll probably embed pieces of hyperkitty to do this)
We haven't thought too much about ask integration with hubs yet bc there was a GSoC project this summer to redesign the UI, but at some point we could integrate that too.
So the idea behind hubs is to enable folks who don't want to use the raw services but still want to participate in Fedora to do so.
Does that make more sense / seem more coherent?
~m
Adam W.,
regarding slack and the "clones" they have irc gateways and space for uploaded files (not email) which could be useful for irc (or a 4ase into irc avenue ---in lieu of atrocities like Mibbit) I It would likely be more of a on-boarding thing. Personally I am on two IRC gateway'd slack communities if someone wants/ needs help setting one up if we ever go that route (The "in the browser" aspect which is the slack default is likely to be less scary for 'new users' as well.
All that said slack is in no means a perfect solution but is a very make it what you will, get from it what you put in kinda thing.
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On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 2:40 PM, Máirín Duffy duffy@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On 10/14/2015 02:19 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
The only thing that concerns me is that at that point we'd have the new thing, IRC, Ask, *and* the mailing lists, soon with Hyperkitty which in some senses overlaps with all the others.
All of these are good things but would we have a coherent story about why we had all of them, and would it just make it a nightmare to find the right information / person?
So the intention with hubs is that it would have a web based chat interface that would use IRC. So if you prefer your old IRC client, keep using it; if you're a newbie and not familiar with IRC and want to communicate with Fedora folks, use Hubs chat (which is actually just the same IRC channels under the covers.)
Same thing with mailing lists / hyperkitty. If you prefer mailing lists, fine, stick with mutt or pine or $CLIENT_OF_CHOICE. If you're not into mailing lists you can read the messages and engage in convo directly in the hubs interface (we'll probably embed pieces of hyperkitty to do this)
We haven't thought too much about ask integration with hubs yet bc there was a GSoC project this summer to redesign the UI, but at some point we could integrate that too.
So the idea behind hubs is to enable folks who don't want to use the raw services but still want to participate in Fedora to do so.
Does that make more sense / seem more coherent?
~m
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On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 02:40:26PM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
So the intention with hubs is that it would have a web based chat interface that would use IRC. So if you prefer your old IRC client, keep using it; if you're a newbie and not familiar with IRC and want to communicate with Fedora folks, use Hubs chat (which is actually just the same IRC channels under the covers.)
Is there a plan for dealing with IRC nicks and the Hubs chat?
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 11:19:00AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
The only thing that concerns me is that at that point we'd have the new thing, IRC, Ask, *and* the mailing lists, soon with Hyperkitty which in some senses overlaps with all the others.
Well, mailing lists -> hyperkitty. Ideally, The New Thing would completely replace IRC eventually. And, especially with how we're using Ask, like a web forum rather than like the Stack Exchange sites it superficially resembles, I'd like to eventually migrate that to HyperKitty too.
On Wed, 2015-10-14 at 14:40 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
On 10/14/2015 02:19 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
The only thing that concerns me is that at that point we'd have the new thing, IRC, Ask, *and* the mailing lists, soon with Hyperkitty which in some senses overlaps with all the others.
All of these are good things but would we have a coherent story about why we had all of them, and would it just make it a nightmare to find the right information / person?
So the intention with hubs is that it would have a web based chat interface that would use IRC. So if you prefer your old IRC client, keep using it; if you're a newbie and not familiar with IRC and want to communicate with Fedora folks, use Hubs chat (which is actually just the same IRC channels under the covers.)
Same thing with mailing lists / hyperkitty. If you prefer mailing lists, fine, stick with mutt or pine or $CLIENT_OF_CHOICE. If you're not into mailing lists you can read the messages and engage in convo directly in the hubs interface (we'll probably embed pieces of hyperkitty to do this)
We haven't thought too much about ask integration with hubs yet bc there was a GSoC project this summer to redesign the UI, but at some point we could integrate that too.
So the idea behind hubs is to enable folks who don't want to use the raw services but still want to participate in Fedora to do so.
Does that make more sense / seem more coherent?
Oh, I wasn't criticizing the *current* plan, I was wondering whether if we stuck another thing on top of the pile it might be going too far...
On 10/14/2015 03:28 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 02:40:26PM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
So the intention with hubs is that it would have a web based chat interface that would use IRC. So if you prefer your old IRC client, keep using it; if you're a newbie and not familiar with IRC and want to communicate with Fedora folks, use Hubs chat (which is actually just the same IRC channels under the covers.)
Is there a plan for dealing with IRC nicks and the Hubs chat?
There's an IRC nick field in FAS. My thoughts were by default for new users we'll prepopulate it with their FAS account name; if you've a preexisting account put in whatever your usual IRC nick is. If you use hubs as an IRC client, use the nick from FAS. If there's a nick collision / somebody's already registered it, I don't know that it would be so difficult to detect that and prompt the user to pick another one.
Was that the concern or is there something I'm missing?
~m
On 10/15/2015 02:33 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
Oh, I wasn't criticizing the *current* plan, I was wondering whether if we stuck another thing on top of the pile it might be going too far...
FWIW the hubs IRC client was the new thing in my mind. If there's something else being proposed I'm not sure what (I tried reading back in the thread but I'm not sure what an additional thing would be on top of what's already in the plan?)
I mean the way we've mocked it up in hubs, the hubs chat UI is basically going to make interacting with other Fedorans on IRC like chatting using the facebook or G+ web apps, big difference is that the chat windows on team/project hubs are going to the be the channel, not one-to-one convos (which are also in the design, but on user profiles, not team/project hubs.) My hope is it'll allow newbies to use IRC without having to worry or even know it's really IRC.
~m
On 10/14/2015 03:30 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 11:19:00AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
The only thing that concerns me is that at that point we'd have the new thing, IRC, Ask, *and* the mailing lists, soon with Hyperkitty which in some senses overlaps with all the others.
Well, mailing lists -> hyperkitty. Ideally, The New Thing would completely replace IRC eventually. And, especially with how we're using Ask, like a web forum rather than like the Stack Exchange sites it superficially resembles, I'd like to eventually migrate that to HyperKitty too.
What is "The New Thing" and why is it needed?
~m
On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 08:15:50AM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
Is there a plan for dealing with IRC nicks and the Hubs chat?
There's an IRC nick field in FAS. My thoughts were by default for new users we'll prepopulate it with their FAS account name; if you've a preexisting account put in whatever your usual IRC nick is. If you use hubs as an IRC client, use the nick from FAS. If there's a nick collision / somebody's already registered it, I don't know that it would be so difficult to detect that and prompt the user to pick another one.
Was that the concern or is there something I'm missing?
Most of us have this set up in our clients so long that we've forgotten about it, but the process of registering a new nick with Freenode drops people right in the middle of IRC esoterica before they're even able to get started.
On 10/15/2015 08:27 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 08:15:50AM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
Is there a plan for dealing with IRC nicks and the Hubs chat?
There's an IRC nick field in FAS. My thoughts were by default for new users we'll prepopulate it with their FAS account name; if you've a preexisting account put in whatever your usual IRC nick is. If you use hubs as an IRC client, use the nick from FAS. If there's a nick collision / somebody's already registered it, I don't know that it would be so difficult to detect that and prompt the user to pick another one.
Was that the concern or is there something I'm missing?
Most of us have this set up in our clients so long that we've forgotten about it, but the process of registering a new nick with Freenode drops people right in the middle of IRC esoterica before they're even able to get started.
I don't think this is insurmountable, I think if there's a nick collision we prompt for a new one and update the FAS field; if there's no collision we register it for them using their FAS email address and maybe making up a password for them. For pre-existing users there can be a field in FAS or in user prefs for their nickserv pass.
~m
2015-10-15 14:27 GMT+02:00 Matthew Miller mattdm@fedoraproject.org:
On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 08:15:50AM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
Is there a plan for dealing with IRC nicks and the Hubs chat?
There's an IRC nick field in FAS. My thoughts were by default for new users we'll prepopulate it with their FAS account name; if you've a preexisting account put in whatever your usual IRC nick is. If you use hubs as an IRC client, use the nick from FAS. If there's a nick collision / somebody's already registered it, I don't know that it would be so difficult to detect that and prompt the user to pick another one.
Was that the concern or is there something I'm missing?
Most of us have this set up in our clients so long that we've forgotten about it, but the process of registering a new nick with Freenode drops people right in the middle of IRC esoterica before they're even able to get started.
I have been able to test Linux patches (within Fedora) but I haven't been able to register my nick at Freenode.
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On Thu, 2015-10-15 at 08:18 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
On 10/15/2015 02:33 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
Oh, I wasn't criticizing the *current* plan, I was wondering whether if we stuck another thing on top of the pile it might be going too far...
FWIW the hubs IRC client was the new thing in my mind. If there's something else being proposed I'm not sure what (I tried reading back in the thread but I'm not sure what an additional thing would be on top of what's already in the plan?)
I mentioned - just as an as-it-came-into-my-head thing, not a serious proposal - the possibility of setting up one of the F/OSS Slack-a-likes that are going around.
On 10/15/2015 12:44 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
I mentioned - just as an as-it-came-into-my-head thing, not a serious proposal - the possibility of setting up one of the F/OSS Slack-a-likes that are going around.
I think Hubs would essentially be that thing. Especially with the planned integration with the meetbot logs + fedocal :)
~m
On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 09:44:01AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
I mentioned - just as an as-it-came-into-my-head thing, not a serious proposal - the possibility of setting up one of the F/OSS Slack-a-likes that are going around. -- Adam Williamson
If you are interested, maybe submit a ticket for infra with some requirements. :)
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