The Packaging Committee will meet Tuesday, 2009-03-31 at 17:00UTC in the #fedora-meeting channel on chat.freenode.net.
FPC works from the agenda at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/GuidelinesTodo; here are some things which should be brought up for discussion at the next meeting:
Common Package Names - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_package_names_packaging_guideline_draft FPC has discussed this at multiple previous meetings and continues to refine the draft.
Publican Packages - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Publican_Documentation_Packages
Users who wish to bring proposals before the committee are encouraged to read https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Committee#Guideline_Change_Procedur... Anyone is welcome to create drafts under https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts and to update https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/DraftsTodo; such updates will automatically appear on our agenda.
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Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
The Packaging Committee will meet Tuesday, 2009-03-31 at 17:00UTC in the #fedora-meeting channel on chat.freenode.net.
FPC works from the agenda at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/GuidelinesTodo; here are some things which should be brought up for discussion at the next meeting:
Common Package Names - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_package_names_packaging_guideline_draft FPC has discussed this at multiple previous meetings and continues to refine the draft.
Publican Packages - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Publican_Documentation_Packages
Users who wish to bring proposals before the committee are encouraged to read https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Committee#Guideline_Change_Procedur... Anyone is welcome to create drafts under https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts and to update https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/DraftsTodo; such updates will automatically appear on our agenda.
Ian Weller just added a draft for Wordpress Plugins:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ianweller/WordPress_plugin_packaging_gui...
If we can get to that it would be nice.
-Toshio
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 06:50:46PM -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
Common Package Names - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_package_names_packaging_guideline_draft FPC has discussed this at multiple previous meetings and continues to refine the draft.
In the
3. There is no conflict yet
case, I think that some word could be said about using rare names (generic names or short names) since they are scarce and an allocation based on first serve could not be optimal from a global point of view (there is a potential coordination failure or even free riding). Moreover careless upstream who don't care about the issue are favoured over upstream who restrain using the best names for the sake of the community.
I made a paragraph in http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging_tricks#Use_of_common_namespace that covers this issue:
In addition to the conflict issue, it should be remembered that generic names and names with less than 5 letters are scarce and so a first come first serve use of these words may lead to misuses. Upstream may not have a view of these issues, and choose a word selfishly (though with good intentions) without thinking about the big picture, so trying to work with upstream and convince upstream not to use generic names during reviews may be worth it.
-- Pat
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:45:27 +0200, Patrice wrote:
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 06:50:46PM -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
Common Package Names - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_package_names_packaging_guideline_draft FPC has discussed this at multiple previous meetings and continues to refine the draft.
In the
- There is no conflict yet
case, I think that some word could be said about using rare names (generic names or short names) since they are scarce and an allocation based on first serve could not be optimal from a global point of view (there is a potential coordination failure or even free riding). Moreover careless upstream who don't care about the issue are favoured over upstream who restrain using the best names for the sake of the community.
I made a paragraph in http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging_tricks#Use_of_common_namespace that covers this issue:
In addition to the conflict issue, it should be remembered that generic names and names with less than 5 letters are scarce and so a first come first serve use of these words may lead to misuses. Upstream may not have a view of these issues, and choose a word selfishly (though with good intentions) without thinking about the big picture, so trying to work with upstream and convince upstream not to use generic names during reviews may be worth it.
Talking about "generic names":
/usr/bin/parser : https://bugzilla.redhat.com/492935
It's only a matter of time till such file names cause conflicts. If memory serves correctly, /usr/bin/parser has caused a conflict before.
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:50:55AM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
Talking about "generic names":
/usr/bin/parser : https://bugzilla.redhat.com/492935
It's only a matter of time till such file names cause conflicts. If memory serves correctly, /usr/bin/parser has caused a conflict before.
Oh yeah:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=450323#c16
I thought coda had agreed to rename it too?
Rich.
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