I'm trying to upgrade to Rawhide from fully updated FC4 on my test partition for quite some time, but I never manage to succeed it. Yum constantly give me some errors, such as:
... --> Running transaction check --> Processing Conflict: initscripts conflicts kernel < 2.6.12 --> Processing Conflict: kudzu conflicts kernel < 2.6.13 --> Processing Dependency: python = 2.4.1 for package: smart --> Restarting Dependency Resolution with new changes. --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait. --> Running transaction check --> Processing Conflict: initscripts conflicts kernel < 2.6.12 --> Processing Conflict: kudzu conflicts kernel < 2.6.13 --> Processing Dependency: python = 2.4.1 for package: smart --> Restarting Dependency Resolution with new changes. --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait. --> Running transaction check Error: Missing Dependency: python = 2.4.1 is needed by package smart Error: Unable to satisfy dependencies Error: Package initscripts needs kernel < 2.6.12, this is not available. Error: Package kudzu needs kernel < 2.6.13, this is not available. Error: Package smart needs python = 2.4.1, this is not available. ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Is there any way to fix that manually? Is it possible to access to Rawhide via SmartPM? If so, what channel would that be?
Thanks, cheers!
On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 11:45 +0100, Igor Jagec wrote:
I'm trying to upgrade to Rawhide from fully updated FC4 on my test partition for quite some time, but I never manage to succeed it. Yum constantly give me some errors, such as:
... --> Running transaction check --> Processing Conflict: initscripts conflicts kernel < 2.6.12 --> Processing Conflict: kudzu conflicts kernel < 2.6.13 --> Processing Dependency: python = 2.4.1 for package: smart --> Restarting Dependency Resolution with new changes. --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait. --> Running transaction check --> Processing Conflict: initscripts conflicts kernel < 2.6.12 --> Processing Conflict: kudzu conflicts kernel < 2.6.13 --> Processing Dependency: python = 2.4.1 for package: smart --> Restarting Dependency Resolution with new changes. --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait. --> Running transaction check Error: Missing Dependency: python = 2.4.1 is needed by package smart Error: Unable to satisfy dependencies Error: Package initscripts needs kernel < 2.6.12, this is not available. Error: Package kudzu needs kernel < 2.6.13, this is not available. Error: Package smart needs python = 2.4.1, this is not available.
Is there any way to fix that manually? Is it possible to access to Rawhide via SmartPM? If so, what channel would that be?
You need to remove all installed kernel versions less that 2.6.14. That should fix you initscripts and kudzu conflicts. I don't know what that smart package is but it looks like you need to upgrade that as well before you can upgrade python.
Michael
Michael D. Wise wrote:
You need to remove all installed kernel versions less that 2.6.14. That should fix you initscripts and kudzu conflicts.
Damm, I forgot to remove the older kernel packages :) Of course it works now! :) Thanks to all of you guys!
I don't know what that smart package is but it looks like you need to upgrade that as well before you can upgrade python.
That's not a problem, I was going to remove smart packages in the first place, but thanks again to all of you guys! :)
And the nice thing is that FC5 kernel doesn't hang on boot as it was before. The only problem is that I can't install nvidia drivers, but I suppose that's an nvidia, or Xorg issue.
Cheers!
Igor Jagec wrote:
And the nice thing is that FC5 kernel doesn't hang on boot as it was before. The only problem is that I can't install nvidia drivers, but I suppose that's an nvidia, or Xorg issue.
Install the nvidia driver with:
sh drivername --x-module-path=/usr/lib/xorg/modules
Marcus
On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 11:45 +0100, Igor Jagec wrote:
I'm trying to upgrade to Rawhide from fully updated FC4 on my test partition for quite some time, but I never manage to succeed it. Yum constantly give me some errors, such as:
... --> Running transaction check --> Processing Conflict: initscripts conflicts kernel < 2.6.12
Remove the old 2.6.11 FC4 kernel.
--> Processing Conflict: kudzu conflicts kernel < 2.6.13
Remove the old 2.6.12 FC4 kernel.
--> Processing Dependency: python = 2.4.1 for package: smart
I am not familiar with this package. If you're not using it, remove it. After following these steps, the upgrade should go smoothly.
/Brian/
Igor Jagec wrote:
I'm trying to upgrade to Rawhide from fully updated FC4 on my test partition for quite some time, but I never manage to succeed it. Yum constantly give me some errors, such as:
... --> Running transaction check --> Processing Conflict: initscripts conflicts kernel < 2.6.12 --> Processing Conflict: kudzu conflicts kernel < 2.6.13 --> Processing Dependency: python = 2.4.1 for package: smart --> Restarting Dependency Resolution with new changes. --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait. --> Running transaction check --> Processing Conflict: initscripts conflicts kernel < 2.6.12 --> Processing Conflict: kudzu conflicts kernel < 2.6.13 --> Processing Dependency: python = 2.4.1 for package: smart --> Restarting Dependency Resolution with new changes. --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. Please wait. --> Running transaction check Error: Missing Dependency: python = 2.4.1 is needed by package smart Error: Unable to satisfy dependencies Error: Package initscripts needs kernel < 2.6.12, this is not available. Error: Package kudzu needs kernel < 2.6.13, this is not available. Error: Package smart needs python = 2.4.1, this is not available.
Is there any way to fix that manually? Is it possible to access to Rawhide via SmartPM? If so, what channel would that be?
No idea about smartpm. The steps to do this using yum is here : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/TestingGuide
On Wednesday 28 December 2005 07:29, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Igor Jagec wrote:
I'm trying to upgrade to Rawhide from fully updated FC4 on my test partition for quite some time, but I never manage to succeed it. Yum constantly give me some errors, such as:
<bunch of dependency errors>
Is there any way to fix that manually?
What everyone else said.
Is it possible to access to Rawhide via SmartPM? If so, what channel would that be?
No idea about smartpm. The steps to do this using yum is here : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/TestingGuide
Yes, smart can also use yum repodata, just set up new channels of that type, point it to the same urls you'll find in /etc/yum.repos.d/*-devel.repo.
http://labix.org/smart/faq#head-23a262be2555f1b386b7f8ca158010a49dd07ad3
Hi
Yes, smart can also use yum repodata, just set up new channels of that type, point it to the same urls you'll find in /etc/yum.repos.d/*-devel.repo.
http://labix.org/smart/faq#head-23a262be2555f1b386b7f8ca158010a49dd07ad3
Smartpm can use yum metadata but its not just a frontend and its dependency resolves works very differently. Most notably it attempts to downgrade packages on occasions to resolve dependencies automatically which isnt what RPM is optimally designed or tested to do. Whether its desirable or if its a improvement is debatable. Yum obviously is getting better integrated with Anaconda, system-config-packages and so on. Of course now that Smartpm is under review for Fedora Extras repository, you have the choice easily.
On Wednesday 28 December 2005 13:58, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Yes, smart can also use yum repodata, just set up new channels of that type, point it to the same urls you'll find in /etc/yum.repos.d/*-devel.repo.
http://labix.org/smart/faq#head-23a262be2555f1b386b7f8ca158010a49dd07ad3
Smartpm can use yum metadata but its not just a frontend and its dependency resolves works very differently. Most notably it attempts to downgrade packages on occasions to resolve dependencies automatically which isnt what RPM is optimally designed or tested to do. Whether its desirable or if its a improvement is debatable. Yum obviously is getting better integrated with Anaconda, system-config-packages and so on. Of course now that Smartpm is under review for Fedora Extras repository, you have the choice easily.
Personally, I used to be a die-hard apt user, but I've been using mostly yum of late (it has improved by leaps and bounds in the past year or so). And yeah, yum is getting better and better integration w/the rest of Fedora.
Smart does have some intriguing "features" though. :)
Hi
Smart does have some intriguing "features" though. :)
What do people find interesting about it? . Remember to separate the core features from the ones the GUI presents which can be added to things like system-config-packages or yumex.
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
What do people find interesting about it? . Remember to separate the core features from the ones the GUI presents which can be added to things like system-config-packages or yumex.
I never use GUI tools myself. I only wanted to see if Smart really resolves dependencies better than the other tools. The only problem I saw till now is that it upgrades kernel-devel package instead of install it. Of course, it lack of some features like package repackaging or installing packages locally but I suppose that is expected in such early phase of development. I hope that Yum will be faster and faster from version to version...
Cheers!
On Wednesday 28 December 2005 17:38, Igor Jagec wrote:
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
What do people find interesting about it? . Remember to separate the core features from the ones the GUI presents which can be added to things like system-config-packages or yumex.
I never use GUI tools myself. I only wanted to see if Smart really resolves dependencies better than the other tools. The only problem I saw till now is that it upgrades kernel-devel package instead of install it. Of course, it lack of some features like package repackaging or installing packages locally but I suppose that is expected in such early phase of development. I hope that Yum will be faster and faster from version to version...
Er, smart has supported installing packages off your local system since its inception. Or did I misunderstand what you were saying there? No, from another msg of yours in the thread, looks like you're thinking smart has no equivalent to yum's localinstall. Just "smart install foo-1.1-1.i386.rpm" like it says in the smart FAQ. :)
On Wednesday 28 December 2005 14:48, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Smart does have some intriguing "features" though. :)
What do people find interesting about it? . Remember to separate the core features from the ones the GUI presents which can be added to things like system-config-packages or yumex.
Primarily the downgrading packages to resolve deps and support for multiple repository metadata formats intrigue me. Though why I'd need to install anything from a red carpet or apt repo that doesn't also provide yum metadata, I dunno.
Oh, and on the GUI front... I actually think smart's GUI sucks (at least, the last time I looked at it, but its been a few revs).
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
http://labix.org/smart/faq#head-23a262be2555f1b386b7f8ca158010a49dd07ad3
I know for that, but SmartPM just hanged when I was tryed to upgrade the system into Rawhide. Here's my channel:
---------------------------------------------------------------------- # Name: Development # URL: http://ayo.freshrpms.net/ [fc-dev] name = Development baseurl = http://ayo.freshrpms.net/fedora/linux/development/i386/core/ type = rpm-md ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Smartpm can use yum metadata but its not just a frontend and its dependency resolves works very differently. Most notably it attempts to downgrade packages on occasions to resolve dependencies automatically which isnt what RPM is optimally designed or tested to do.
I didn't know for that, thanks.
Whether its desirable or if its a improvement is debatable. Yum obviously is getting better integrated with Anaconda, system-config-packages and so on.
I read that Yum is the new dependency resolver for Anaconda, and system-config-packages as well. I like Yum better because it provides some features I've never seen on Apt or Smart (package repackaging and installing packages locally - 'yum localinstall'). But it is slower than Apt and Smart, for now :-/
Of course now that Smartpm is under review for Fedora Extras repository, you have the choice easily.
Well, I'm not some SmartPM fan or something, I was just playing with it. Seems nice tool. Or it isn't as it looks like?
Cheers!
Hi
I like Yum better because it provides some features I've never seen on Apt or Smart (package repackaging and installing packages locally - 'yum localinstall'). But it is slower than Apt and Smart, for now :-/
Yum has constantly got improvements in speed over almost every release. Learn to use yum -C <operations> if you want it to run from cache on occasions. Also the version in the Fedora development tree has a timeout value set to 1800 seconds by default to avoid refreshing the cache on subsequent operations which makes a pretty major difference.
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
I like Yum better because it provides some features I've never seen on Apt or Smart (package repackaging and installing packages locally - 'yum localinstall'). But it is slower than Apt and Smart, for now :-/
Yum has constantly got improvements in speed over almost every release. Learn to use yum -C <operations> if you want it to run from cache on occasions. Also the version in the Fedora development tree has a timeout value set to 1800 seconds by default to avoid refreshing the cache on subsequent operations which makes a pretty major difference.
On FC4 too. I got it recently. I think it is 2.4.1 version (I'm currently on Rawhide). Here's my yum.conf:
[main] cachedir=/var/cache/yum debuglevel=2 logfile=/var/log/yum.log pkgpolicy=newest distroverpkg=redhat-release tolerant=1 exactarch=1 retries=1 timeout=10 obsoletes=1 gpgcheck=0 exclude=transcode* tsflags=repackage metadata_expire=1800
On Thu, 29 Dec 2005, Igor Jagec wrote:
I read that Yum is the new dependency resolver for Anaconda, and system-config-packages as well. I like Yum better because it provides some features I've never seen on Apt or Smart (package repackaging and installing packages locally - 'yum localinstall'). But it is slower than Apt and Smart, for now :-/
Apt does actually support both repackaging and local package installations and I'd suppose smart does too (but haven't checked)
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