Adam Miller wrote:

On Tue, Aug 02, 2011 at 11:00:43AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:

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Abiword is currently broken in f16/rawhide due to the retiring of link-grammar (a FTBFS retiree).

This is currently breaking the Xfce, LXDE, and soas spins.

Would someone be interested in reviving link-grammar and possibly helping out updating/maintaining abiword?

I've also sent email to the abiword maintainer, but they haven't commited to abiword in almost a year. Others have been fixing it. ;(

I'd guess the next steps would be:

• update link-grammar and get it building/working.
• submit a review for it and get it back in.
• update abiword and rebuild to use that version of link-grammar.

kevin

Would an option be to just retire abiword? Its slowly gotten less useful in most cases because it doesn't handle formats near as well as it once did (even .odt ... going from libreoffice to abiword is ... well, painful) and if upstream isn't contuning development on it is there much motivation to keep it alive? (I'm not entirely familiar with its user base so my suggestion might be heavily greated with "OMG NOES!" replies and if that's the case then by all means keep the train moving forward ... I just hate to unnessecary work done.)

Also, I think with the new compression on the Live images all the spins have the spare space for LibreOffice.

Just my $0.02.

-AdamM

I'd like to see abiword stick around, my $0.02.

-J

On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 19:35:22 +0200 Johannes Lips johannes.lips@googlemail.com wrote:

I just initiated a scratch build with the new upstream version, which is failing due to missing files. It seems as if the jar files aren't generated during the build/install process. http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=3247252

Right. It is not detecting java for some reason...

I also don't see the reasoning of dropping an app just because one dependency was kicked out.

Well, it's not just that, it's that it's not being maintained. ;)

kevin

On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 19:45:25 +0200 Johannes Lips johannes.lips@googlemail.com wrote:

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Right. It is not detecting java for some reason...

Fixed, it's just a missing BuildRequirement of libgcj-devel. If you like I could open a Review Request.

Sure. Feel free.

kevin

On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Johannes Lips johannes.lips@googlemail.com wrote:

Done. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=727646

Hope someone is reviewing it in a short while.

thanks! Abiword (actually libabiword) is an important part of the OLPC & Sugar desktop environment.

cheers,

m

Ok, I have also written that to the already reviewed bug report and I would like to address an even broader audience with this mail.

Does someone have an interest in co-maintaining link-grammar? If yes, please make note to the following bug-report before I file the SCM request. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=727646

Thanks!

-Johannes

On 08/03/2011 10:06 AM, Niels de Vos wrote:

On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Johannes Lips johannes.lips@googlemail.com wrote:

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Done. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=727646

Hope someone is reviewing it in a short while.

I'll try to review this today, or at least "in a short while" ;-)

Cheers, Niels

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Johannes

On 08/02/2011 07:52 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:

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On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 19:45:25 +0200 Johannes Lipsjohannes.lips@googlemail.com wrote:

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Right. It is not detecting java for some reason...

Fixed, it's just a missing BuildRequirement of libgcj-devel. If you like I could open a Review Request.

Sure. Feel free.

kevin

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On Tue, 2 Aug 2011 12:07:36 -0500 Adam Miller maxamillion@fedoraproject.org wrote:

Would an option be to just retire abiword? Its slowly gotten less useful in most cases because it doesn't handle formats near as well as it once did (even .odt ... going from libreoffice to abiword is ... well, painful) and if upstream isn't contuning development on it is there much motivation to keep it alive? (I'm not entirely familiar with its user base so my suggestion might be heavily greated with "OMG NOES!" replies and if that's the case then by all means keep the train moving forward ... I just hate to unnessecary work done.)

If no one steps up to maintain it sure. Upstream is still very much alive as far as I can see. It's just the Fedora package thats lagging.

Also, I think with the new compression on the Live images all the spins have the spare space for LibreOffice.

They might.

kevin

On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Adam Miller maxamillion@fedoraproject.orgwrote:

On Tue, Aug 02, 2011 at 11:00:43AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:

...

Abiword is currently broken in f16/rawhide due to the retiring of link-grammar (a FTBFS retiree).

This is currently breaking the Xfce, LXDE, and soas spins.

Would someone be interested in reviving link-grammar and possibly helping out updating/maintaining abiword?

I've also sent email to the abiword maintainer, but they haven't commited to abiword in almost a year. Others have been fixing it. ;(

I'd guess the next steps would be:

• update link-grammar and get it building/working.
• submit a review for it and get it back in.
• update abiword and rebuild to use that version of link-grammar.

kevin

Would an option be to just retire abiword? Its slowly gotten less useful in most cases because it doesn't handle formats near as well as it once did (even .odt ... going from libreoffice to abiword is ... well, painful) and if upstream isn't contuning development on it is there much motivation to keep it alive? (I'm not entirely familiar with its user base so my suggestion might be heavily greated with "OMG NOES!" replies and if that's the case then by all means keep the train moving forward ... I just hate to unnessecary work done.)

Also, biw

OMG NOES! It is used by OLPC and I use it constantly as its infinitely faster than oowriter for basic documents.

Peter