Hi,
Are there any plans to provide PostgreSQL 9.1 in Fedora 16? PostgreSQL 9.1 is in beta2 now and it's scheduled for Q3 2011.
It would be nice to see Lucene Core in F16. There is an old Lucene 2.9.x for F16 - the latest upstream version is 3.3.
=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Micha=B3_Piotrowski?= mkkp4x4@gmail.com writes:
Are there any plans to provide PostgreSQL 9.1 in Fedora 16? PostgreSQL 9.1 is in beta2 now and it's scheduled for Q3 2011.
If upstream releases it in time, it'll be in F16. I would put the odds of that no better than 50-50, though. I'm not going to push a new major PG release into F16 post-beta, and with the F16 beta change deadline only 2 months away, it's pretty iffy.
Of course, you could always use the PGDG RPMs whenever you think 9.1 is stable enough for your taste. I'm sure Devrim will be producing RPMs for F16 as soon as it's released.
regards, tom lane
2011/7/2 Tom Lane tgl@redhat.com:
=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Micha=B3_Piotrowski?= mkkp4x4@gmail.com writes:
Are there any plans to provide PostgreSQL 9.1 in Fedora 16? PostgreSQL 9.1 is in beta2 now and it's scheduled for Q3 2011.
If upstream releases it in time, it'll be in F16. I would put the odds of that no better than 50-50, though. I'm not going to push a new major PG release into F16 post-beta, and with the F16 beta change deadline only 2 months away, it's pretty iffy.
Ok, thanks for the information.
Of course, you could always use the PGDG RPMs whenever you think 9.1 is stable enough for your taste. I'm sure Devrim will be producing RPMs for F16 as soon as it's released.
I'm tracking his svn repo, but PGSQL 9.1 wasn't updated from alpha3 so I guess that he has a lot of other activities than providing latest and greatest PostgreSQL version :)
regards, tom lane
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Hi,
2011/7/2 Tom Lane tgl@redhat.com:
=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Micha=B3_Piotrowski?= mkkp4x4@gmail.com writes:
Are there any plans to provide PostgreSQL 9.1 in Fedora 16? PostgreSQL 9.1 is in beta2 now and it's scheduled for Q3 2011.
If upstream releases it in time, it'll be in F16. I would put the odds of that no better than 50-50, though. I'm not going to push a new major PG release into F16 post-beta, and with the F16 beta change deadline only 2 months away, it's pretty iffy.
I see a new tag in git repo REL9_1_0 :)
F16 beta is targeted at 2011-09-27, so there is still a little time to upgrade PostgreSQL for this release.
Of course, you could always use the PGDG RPMs whenever you think 9.1 is stable enough for your taste. I'm sure Devrim will be producing RPMs for F16 as soon as it's released.
regards, tom lane
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On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 11:13:03 +0200, Michał Piotrowski mkkp4x4@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
2011/7/2 Tom Lane tgl@redhat.com:
=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Micha=B3_Piotrowski?= mkkp4x4@gmail.com writes:
Are there any plans to provide PostgreSQL 9.1 in Fedora 16? PostgreSQL 9.1 is in beta2 now and it's scheduled for Q3 2011.
If upstream releases it in time, it'll be in F16. I would put the odds of that no better than 50-50, though. I'm not going to push a new major PG release into F16 post-beta, and with the F16 beta change deadline only 2 months away, it's pretty iffy.
I see a new tag in git repo REL9_1_0 :)
F16 beta is targeted at 2011-09-27, so there is still a little time to upgrade PostgreSQL for this release.
The beta freeze starts two weeks before that and even if it gets in the next couple of days it is going to need testing to get positive karma before making it to updates on time. So there is really extremely little time to get 9.1 in in time for f16 beta.
Bruno Wolff III bruno@wolff.to writes:
On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 11:13:03 +0200, Michał Piotrowski mkkp4x4@gmail.com wrote:
F16 beta is targeted at 2011-09-27, so there is still a little time to upgrade PostgreSQL for this release.
The beta freeze starts two weeks before that and even if it gets in the next couple of days it is going to need testing to get positive karma before making it to updates on time. So there is really extremely little time to get 9.1 in in time for f16 beta.
Yeah. I have done test packaging of 9.1rc1 already, so it's pretty much ready to go on my end. I would be prepared to push 9.1 into f16 on Monday if there were enough people willing to test and up-karma it before the freeze ... any volunteers out there?
regards, tom lane
On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 11:27:53 -0400, Tom Lane tgl@redhat.com wrote:
Yeah. I have done test packaging of 9.1rc1 already, so it's pretty much ready to go on my end. I would be prepared to push 9.1 into f16 on Monday if there were enough people willing to test and up-karma it before the freeze ... any volunteers out there?
I'll test an in place upgrade from 9.0 to 9.1, reloading a small database from some scripts I have, and making sure some selects used by cgi scripts appear to work correctly. I should be able to get this done Monday evening. (I'll pull packages from koji, so I won't need to wait for it to move to updates-testing.)
Bruno Wolff III bruno@wolff.to writes:
Tom Lane tgl@redhat.com wrote:
Yeah. I have done test packaging of 9.1rc1 already, so it's pretty much ready to go on my end. I would be prepared to push 9.1 into f16 on Monday if there were enough people willing to test and up-karma it before the freeze ... any volunteers out there?
I'll test an in place upgrade from 9.0 to 9.1, reloading a small database from some scripts I have, and making sure some selects used by cgi scripts appear to work correctly. I should be able to get this done Monday evening. (I'll pull packages from koji, so I won't need to wait for it to move to updates-testing.)
OK, it's built and filed at https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/postgresql-9.1.0-1.fc16
If anyone out there uses JDBC, that driver could use some testing too: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/postgresql-jdbc-9.1.901-1.fc16
regards, tom lane
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 03:16:47 -0400, Tom Lane tgl@redhat.com wrote:
OK, it's built and filed at https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/postgresql-9.1.0-1.fc16
One thing I noticed is that service postgresql initdb and service postgresql help no longer work. I was hoping they'd redirect to the systemd equivalents of the old function. Trying to find the list of supported systemd functions for postgresql isn't going that well, though I expect I'll eventually figure out where to look.
Bruno Wolff III bruno@wolff.to writes:
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 03:16:47 -0400, Tom Lane tgl@redhat.com wrote:
OK, it's built and filed at https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/postgresql-9.1.0-1.fc16
One thing I noticed is that service postgresql initdb and service postgresql help no longer work. I was hoping they'd redirect to the systemd equivalents of the old function.
I would have liked that too, but systemd is completely unfriendly to custom actions of that sort. The new dispensation is that you have to do "postgresql-setup initdb" or "postgresql-setup upgrade". This is documented in /usr/share/doc/postgresql-*/README.rpm-dist and in the F16 release notes at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Beats/DatabaseServers I'm willing to document it somewhere else if you have a better idea.
(This isn't new with 9.1, btw --- the last version or so of 9.0 for F16 was the same, since we switched over to native systemd files.)
regards, tom lane
On 09/12/2011 10:55 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
Bruno Wolff IIIbruno@wolff.to writes:
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 03:16:47 -0400, Tom Lanetgl@redhat.com wrote:
OK, it's built and filed at https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/postgresql-9.1.0-1.fc16
One thing I noticed is that service postgresql initdb and service postgresql help no longer work. I was hoping they'd redirect to the systemd equivalents of the old function.
I would have liked that too, but systemd is completely unfriendly to
Ahh... but this is progress !? :-(
custom actions of that sort. The new dispensation is that you have to do "postgresql-setup initdb" or "postgresql-setup upgrade". This is documented in /usr/share/doc/postgresql-*/README.rpm-dist and in the F16 release notes at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Beats/DatabaseServers I'm willing to document it somewhere else if you have a better idea.
(This isn't new with 9.1, btw --- the last version or so of 9.0 for F16 was the same, since we switched over to native systemd files.)
regards, tom lane
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 22:55:21 -0400, Tom Lane tgl@redhat.com wrote:
(This isn't new with 9.1, btw --- the last version or so of 9.0 for F16 was the same, since we switched over to native systemd files.)
I don't remember what I did for 9.0. I either found that stuff or I did a dump and restore.
Anyway, I have done an upgrade on an instance I use for a local wiki and things seem to be working. I'll continue to do some more testing, but I think the update passes sanity tests.
On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Tom Lane tgl@redhat.com wrote:
Yeah. I have done test packaging of 9.1rc1 already, so it's pretty much ready to go on my end. I would be prepared to push 9.1 into f16 on Monday if there were enough people willing to test and up-karma it before the freeze ... any volunteers out there?
I'd be happy to do some testing on Monday as well.
-- Jared Smith Fedora Project Leader
2011/9/11 Tom Lane tgl@redhat.com:
Bruno Wolff III bruno@wolff.to writes:
On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 11:13:03 +0200, Michał Piotrowski mkkp4x4@gmail.com wrote:
F16 beta is targeted at 2011-09-27, so there is still a little time to upgrade PostgreSQL for this release.
The beta freeze starts two weeks before that and even if it gets in the next couple of days it is going to need testing to get positive karma before making it to updates on time. So there is really extremely little time to get 9.1 in in time for f16 beta.
Yeah. I have done test packaging of 9.1rc1 already, so it's pretty much ready to go on my end. I would be prepared to push 9.1 into f16 on Monday if there were enough people willing to test and up-karma it before the freeze ... any volunteers out there?
I don't have F16, but I can rebuild packages and test on F15 if this will have some test value.
regards, tom lane
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=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Micha=B3_Piotrowski?= mkkp4x4@gmail.com writes:
2011/9/11 Tom Lane tgl@redhat.com:
Yeah. I have done test packaging of 9.1rc1 already, so it's pretty much ready to go on my end. I would be prepared to push 9.1 into f16 on Monday if there were enough people willing to test and up-karma it before the freeze ... any volunteers out there?
I don't have F16, but I can rebuild packages and test on F15 if this will have some test value.
F15 is where I've been doing my own testing. It's the F16 packages that would need karma, though.
The database weenie in me says that trying to push 9.1.0 into F16 at this late date is insane. I'm willing to do it if we can get enough testing attention, but I think it has to be honest testing in an F16-alpha environment.
regards, tom lane
2011/9/11 Tom Lane tgl@redhat.com:
=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Micha=B3_Piotrowski?= mkkp4x4@gmail.com writes:
2011/9/11 Tom Lane tgl@redhat.com:
Yeah. I have done test packaging of 9.1rc1 already, so it's pretty much ready to go on my end. I would be prepared to push 9.1 into f16 on Monday if there were enough people willing to test and up-karma it before the freeze ... any volunteers out there?
I don't have F16, but I can rebuild packages and test on F15 if this will have some test value.
F15 is where I've been doing my own testing. It's the F16 packages that would need karma, though.
I tried to upgrade to F16 at Wednesday, but preupgrade failed somewhere. Next week I will not be able to upgrade because my vacation ended and I need a fully functioning system over the next few days (I've got a large webapp deployment). So I am afraid that I will not be useful for testing PGSQL 9.1 on F16.
The database weenie in me says that trying to push 9.1.0 into F16 at this late date is insane. I'm willing to do it if we can get enough testing attention, but I think it has to be honest testing in an F16-alpha environment.
If I find some time I'll try to install F16 on VM, but I do not know whether such tests will be useful. It seems to me that best and most valuable tests would be just do some regular work on DB.
regards, tom lane
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Hi,
W dniu 11 września 2011 22:47 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski mkkp4x4@gmail.com napisał:
2011/9/11 Tom Lane tgl@redhat.com:
=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Micha=B3_Piotrowski?= mkkp4x4@gmail.com writes:
2011/9/11 Tom Lane tgl@redhat.com:
Yeah. I have done test packaging of 9.1rc1 already, so it's pretty much ready to go on my end. I would be prepared to push 9.1 into f16 on Monday if there were enough people willing to test and up-karma it before the freeze ... any volunteers out there?
I don't have F16, but I can rebuild packages and test on F15 if this will have some test value.
F15 is where I've been doing my own testing. It's the F16 packages that would need karma, though.
I tried to upgrade to F16 at Wednesday, but preupgrade failed somewhere. Next week I will not be able to upgrade because my vacation ended and I need a fully functioning system over the next few days (I've got a large webapp deployment). So I am afraid that I will not be useful for testing PGSQL 9.1 on F16.
The database weenie in me says that trying to push 9.1.0 into F16 at this late date is insane. I'm willing to do it if we can get enough testing attention, but I think it has to be honest testing in an F16-alpha environment.
If I find some time I'll try to install F16 on VM, but I do not know whether such tests will be useful. It seems to me that best and most valuable tests would be just do some regular work on DB.
I'm using PostgreSQL 9.1 on F16 for a week and did not notice any problems (except slower start). I used preupgrade to update system - after changing database directory in service file I had a working database. From my POV this update was painless :)
Great job. Thanks!
On 09:34:10 AM Saturday, July 02, 2011 Michał Piotrowski wrote:
Hi,
Are there any plans to provide PostgreSQL 9.1 in Fedora 16? PostgreSQL 9.1 is in beta2 now and it's scheduled for Q3 2011.
It would be nice to see Lucene Core in F16. There is an old Lucene 2.9.x for F16 - the latest upstream version is 3.3.
As the Lucene maintainer I feel obligated to answer the Lucene part of the question. No, there won't be 3.3 in F16 unless someone else steps as the official maintainer or a miracle happens and more people start to work on the underlying Java stack. Updating Lucene is so low in my todo list that I don't envision it happening soon. Note that I don't mind Lucene update actually I'm all for it but I don't have the time(now) to deal with bugs caused by API breaking release so if someone wants to update he will have to sign up for them - i.e. becoming the official maintainer.
Alex
Hi,
2011/7/4 Alexander Kurtakov akurtako@redhat.com:
On 09:34:10 AM Saturday, July 02, 2011 Michał Piotrowski wrote:
Hi,
Are there any plans to provide PostgreSQL 9.1 in Fedora 16? PostgreSQL 9.1 is in beta2 now and it's scheduled for Q3 2011.
It would be nice to see Lucene Core in F16. There is an old Lucene 2.9.x for F16 - the latest upstream version is 3.3.
As the Lucene maintainer I feel obligated to answer the Lucene part of the question. No, there won't be 3.3 in F16 unless someone else steps as the official maintainer or a miracle happens and more people start to work on the underlying Java stack. Updating Lucene is so low in my todo list that I don't envision it happening soon. Note that I don't mind Lucene update actually I'm all for it but I don't have the time(now) to deal with bugs caused by API breaking release so if someone wants to update he will have to sign up for them - i.e. becoming the official maintainer.
Unfortunately I do not have enough java programming experience to help you in fixing problems.
Thanks for your answer.
Alex
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Excerpts from Michał Piotrowski's message of Mon Jul 04 13:11:06 +0200 2011:
Hi,
2011/7/4 Alexander Kurtakov akurtako@redhat.com:
On 09:34:10 AM Saturday, July 02, 2011 Michał Piotrowski wrote:
Hi,
Are there any plans to provide PostgreSQL 9.1 in Fedora 16? PostgreSQL 9.1 is in beta2 now and it's scheduled for Q3 2011.
It would be nice to see Lucene Core in F16. There is an old Lucene 2.9.x for F16 - the latest upstream version is 3.3.
As the Lucene maintainer I feel obligated to answer the Lucene part of the question. No, there won't be 3.3 in F16 unless someone else steps as the official maintainer or a miracle happens and more people start to work on the underlying Java stack. Updating Lucene is so low in my todo list that I don't envision it happening soon. Note that I don't mind Lucene update actually I'm all for it but I don't have the time(now) to deal with bugs caused by API breaking release so if someone wants to update he will have to sign up for them - i.e. becoming the official maintainer.
Unfortunately I do not have enough java programming experience to help you in fixing problems.
There might be a more simple way to do it though. There was already a started lucene3 review that would be able to live in parallel with current lucene 2.x. In the end it wasn't finished, but if you feel up to it you can continue: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=664826
Good luck,
-- Stanislav Ochotnicky sochotnicky@redhat.com Software Engineer - Base Operating Systems Brno
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2011/7/4 Stanislav Ochotnicky sochotnicky@redhat.com:
Excerpts from Michał Piotrowski's message of Mon Jul 04 13:11:06 +0200 2011:
Unfortunately I do not have enough java programming experience to help you in fixing problems.
There might be a more simple way to do it though. There was already a started lucene3 review that would be able to live in parallel with current lucene 2.x. In the end it wasn't finished, but if you feel up to it you can continue: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=664826
Thanks for the link, I'll look at this tonight and see if I can help. (Although I have no experience with creating spec files, but I will try to remove at least a few rpmlint warnings)
Good luck,
-- Stanislav Ochotnicky sochotnicky@redhat.com Software Engineer - Base Operating Systems Brno
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