docs March 2004

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Introduction
by Aaron Matteson 09 Mar '04

09 Mar '04

Hi, i would like to introduce myself to this list with my intentions to contribute to it and the documentation effort. I have begun compiling relevant information pertaining to the training and etiquette of the Fedora support mechanism. In the Fedora-list i see far to often the flaming of questions that seem to be pointless and stupid. But as the saying goes: "There are no stupid questions". All the suggestions and information i compile will be used in a support-guide and questions-guide or something along those lines either together or seperately. But this topic i think has gone without at least some effort to contain it long enouph, so i figured it is time to put up or shut up. I have been a linux user and minor developer for some time now, but i have never attempted to write any documentation in any meaningful fashion before, so any suggestions and pointers made be the verterans and bystanders on this list would be gratefully accepted and considered. I will not be alone in writing this, there will be one or two others that are fed up with the support situation as it is (goes without saying the support mechanism is still much much better then most out there already in place). Thanks /aaron -- . 0 . Aaron M Matteson - http://cryptosystem.us . . 0 Real programmers don't document. If it was hard to write, 0 0 0 it should be hard to understand! -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please do not send me HTML emails or attachments containing Microsoft Word documents, Excel documents or Access sheets as they will be automatically forwarded to a mailbox i check infrequently. Thanks.

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Re: Fedora list?
by Jeff Kowing 09 Mar '04

09 Mar '04

Karsten Wade writes: > On Mon, 2004-03-08 at 10:36, Karsten Wade wrote: > Double-argh! That sounded l4m3 instead of funny. Even if I had put in > a smiley or two, it still didn't have the right "ring" to it. > > Sorry, Machtelt. Maybe it was just too early in the morning for > me. :) I think you guys and your hard work are great. And this is one of the most friendly lists I've ever lurked on. On some other lists I'm on (which shall remain nameless) you would be attacked for being so nice with your reply. Regards. -- Jeff Kowing <jeffrey.d.kowing(a)nasa.gov> All opinions expressed are my own and not of my employer.

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[Fwd: Fedora Jargon: What's a kernel 'oops'?]
by Colin Charles 09 Mar '04

09 Mar '04

Folks, it might not seem all that obvious that folks need to post requests for more jargon busting to fedora-docs-list(a)redhat.com ? I've told Mike & Tracy already, so that saves everyone else the trouble of writing back! But maybe we should make it more friendly? Regards -----Forwarded Message----- > From: Mike & Tracy <fracs(a)bigpond.net.au> > To: colin(a)fedoranews.org > Subject: Fedora Jargon: What's a kernel 'oops'? > Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 22:21:51 +1100 > > Hi, > > Thanks for the link to the jargon buster - great... I couldn't work out > how to post requests, though. > > I've read on kernel RC-series release notes (Linux Today, etc) about > patches to the kernel called 'oops'... Can you tell me if this is an > acronym, or is it just a 'silly bug'. > > PS: This is a serious Q. > > Thanks, > Mike -- Colin Charles, byte(a)aeon.com.my http://www.bytebot.net/ http://training.bytebot.net/ - OpenOffice.org Training http://fedoranews.org/colin/fnu/ - Fedora News Updates

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project website link problem?
by Dave Pawson 09 Mar '04

09 Mar '04

http://fedora.redhat.com/projects/docs/ says Some other interesting Bugzilla queries: * <http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?short_desc_type=allwordssub…>All open bugs for fedora-docs * <http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?short_desc_type=allwordssub…>The requests for enhancements (RFEs) for fedora-docs I was going to use that for a request to add my word, link, on the jargon-buster (now I've got it out of cvs - tks Karsten). But it appears (to me) to be a link to the bug reporting page? Is that as it should be? Even at that page, fedora docs doesn't appear as a valid project. (Am I repeating what's been already said on this list? It sounds familiar) regards DaveP

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Sendmail question
by Bas Bosman 08 Mar '04

08 Mar '04

Hi, I'm trying to run a mail server and it accepts mail from all users when I'm sending a mail from my outlook. I don't want this. So the question is how do I get sendmail to verify a user before accepting and sending an e-mail? Thanks, Bas

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Enable loadable module support in Fedora kernel
by Patrick Masters 08 Mar '04

08 Mar '04

Hi All, I've been beating my head off the wall for over a week to try and figure this out. I apologize if I have the wrong list, but I'm sure this is the right list. Just to start, I have searched far and wide, Fedora lists, Google, etc, etc, etc.... I am trying to compile drbd-0.6.10 on Fedora Core 1. It seems that "Loadable Module Support" is disabled in the default kernel. [root@calolnxpxe01 drbd]# make clean all rm -f *.[oas] *.ko .*.cmd .*.d .*.tmp *.mod.c .*.flags .depend .kernelrelease Calling toplevel makefile of kernel source tree, which I believe is in KDIR=/lib/modules/2.4.22-1.2174.nptl/build NOTE: please ignore warnings regarding overriding of SUBDIRS make -C /lib/modules/2.4.22-1.2174.nptl/build SUBDIRS=/usr/src/drbd-0.6.10/drbd modules make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.22-1.2174.nptl' The present kernel configuration has modules disabled. Type 'make config' and enable loadable module support. Then build a kernel with module support enabled. make[1]: *** [modules] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.22-1.2174.nptl' make: *** [kbuild] Error 2 [root@calolnxpxe01 drbd]# Although when I do "make menuconfig" in the kernel source, "Loadable Module Support" seems to be enabled already. So if I save the kernel, even when I didn't actually change anything and do a "make dep" and then try to compile drbd-0.6.10, it compiles no problem, but since this new custom kernel is actually not installed (linux-2.4.22-1.2174.nptlcustom) the drbd module fails to load. Is there an easy way to get this going, as I am not sure how to install the new kernel. I know that I need to do some copying and linking etc, but not sure of all the steps. Is there a document somewhere that will explain how to do this in Fedora. Or an easier way to get this to work out of the box. Any insite would be much appreciated and I do apologize for my kernel newbieness.....;-) Respectfully ______________________________ Patrick Masters Network/System Admin, CCNA Sykes Canada Corporation pmasters(a)sykescanada.com office: 519-646-3483 fax: 519-434-8004

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Maximum RPM updates patches welcome ;)
by Paul Nasrat 08 Mar '04

08 Mar '04

There have been various patches to maximum rpm to update it. These have all been checked in and I've built the html here: http://rpm-devel.colug.net/max-rpm/ I've just added %defattr, I hope to rewrite the pgp section to reflect the internal openpgp implementation. I am happy to take, review and merge patches as well as contributing myself. The plan is to update Maximum RPM to rpm 4.3, include color, selinux and friends. The source for "Maximum RPM" is available through CVS as well: cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.rpm.org:/cvs/devel login (no password, just carriage return) cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.rpm.org:/cvs/devel get max-rpm Thanks Paul

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Problem with upgrading the fedora core 1 install
by Bas Bosman 04 Mar '04

04 Mar '04

Hi, I've installed fedora core 1 recently and I tried to upgrade it, I wanted to add the gcc c compiler and some other things so I booted the system with fedora cd1 and choose to upgrade the install, but I was never asked to select what to install exactly, instead it just started installing. I've tried a couple of things with the bootloader but no option was working. So the question is how do I upgrade? Thanks, Bas

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REquest for documentation.
by Dave Pawson 04 Mar '04

04 Mar '04

Pretty please. I've spent the last week or so in my spare time trying to find a way to get 'direct' email working, without the convenience of Evolution. Some very helpful sites about individual bits and pieces. http://www.redhat.com/support/resources/howto/RH-postfix-HOWTO/book1.html is out of date for current postfix, sendmail-cf is well documented by an Irish website, but totally standalone. http://ii.best.vwh.net/internet/robots/procmail/qs/ is good, but only in isolation Request please for a grand overview, along the lines of These are the bits needed. for piece A, choose from For piece B, choose from ... These are some friendly links for ... new users. Any takers? I'd love to beta test it. TIA, DaveP

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Self-Introduction: Karsten Wade
by Karsten Wade 03 Mar '04

03 Mar '04

Following the format of the Fedora Project self-intro (http://www.fedora.us/wiki/SelfIntroduction) and the example of Mike MacCana. The wordiness is all my fault: 1. Full legal name - Karsten Wade 2. Country, City - USA, Santa Cruz (.ca.us) 3. Profession - Technical Writer 4. Company - Red Hat, Inc. 5. My goals in the Fedora docs project are: * Support the team in whatever way I can, including technical, QA, editorial, wordsmithee, professional, community, etc. * Provide useful documentation for Fedora Core users, administrators, and developers, starting with the form of tutorials and HOWTOs. * Personally author and maintain one to several tutorials or HOWTOs (no big ideas yet, although I am about to do an x2x implementation, so will likely start with that). * Assist with the dox toolchain, build environment, and contributor guidelines. 6. My historical qualifications: Work at Red Hat: * Author, edit, and/or maintain guides for developers (Java API), system administrators, application admins, and end-users for Red Hat Applications WAF and CMS (née ArsDigita Community System aka ACS). http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/rhea/ and http://rhea.redhat.com/. These guides are a collaborative effort with the developers. Because I am not a programmer, the developer guide required a close relationship with the programmers, who assist by authoring some content directly into the DocBook SGML. My tasks have included massive editing of others' work, reworking of old materials, technical QA, testing, generation of new content, modernization and standardization of SGML, and extensive usage of the many OO tags in DocBook. * Focusing on SELinux implementation and documentation; nothing produced yet. * Professional services (PS) team as a systems consultant and project writer, doing assessments, implementations, the bulk of the major project writing tasks for 50+ PS consultants, setting standards, and working with lots of customers. Work at VA Linux Systems: * Same as PS work at Red Hat. Also worked on community oriented projects such as a presentation explaining the benefits of the open source development methodology. Other qualifications/skills: * As a lifelong writer, I've studied journalism, creative writing, and literature. * Experienced in many aspects of IT, from end-user through to business decision makers. RHCE (RHL 8.0), system administration generalist, and former Windows sysadmin. No computer languages known. Lots of work with DocBook SGML, some with XML, DSSSL, XSL, and CSS. 7. GPG KEYID and fingerprint This is my personal gpg key: pub 1024D/AD0E0C41 2003-11-26 Karsten G. Wade (quaid|phig) <karsten(a)karstenwade.com> Key fingerprint = 2680 DBFD D968 3141 0115 5F1B D992 0E06 AD0E 0C41 sub 1024g/C07806E8 2003-11-26 -- Karsten Wade .:. RHCE .:. Sr. Technical Writer .:. <name_title /> kwade at redhat.com www.redhat.com/docs <email_URL /> rhea.redhat.com <product id="WAF_CMS" /> www.redhat.com/solutions/security/SELinux.html <product id="SELinux" /> 2680 DBFD D968 3141 0115 5F1B D992 0E06 AD0E 0C41 <gpg_fingerprint />

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