docs October 2005

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Saxon, FOP, and xmlto
by Tommy Reynolds 21 Oct '05

21 Oct '05

Hello, List! While thinking about finetuning our toolchain, bringing it more into line with what the Red Hatters are using, it looks as if FOP is the future. Along with that, the most up-to-date XSLT tool seems to be saxon. This leads me to the questions: 1) Has anyone here personally used saxon? Can you share your favorite command line with us? 2) Does anyone know when / if FOP will become part of the mainline distro? Cheers

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Test of Docs Packaging
by Stuart Ellis 21 Oct '05

21 Oct '05

Just to confirm that I've now tried the packaging for example-tutorial, and got the expected result :) On a standard FC4 system: - yum install rpm-build - cvs up docs-common - cvs up example-tutorial - cd example-tutorial/ - make rpm Produces: fedora-doc-example-tutorial-0.14-1.noarch.rpm containing .xml, .omf, and .desktop files. - sudo rpm -ivh fedora-doc-example-tutorial-0.14-1.noarch.rpm Produces: error: Failed dependencies: fedora-doc-common is needed by fedora-doc-example-tutorial-0.14-1.noarch -- Stuart Ellis stuart(a)elsn.org Fedora Documentation Project: http://fedora.redhat.com/projects/docs/ GPG key ID: 7098ABEA GPG key fingerprint: 68B0 E291 FB19 C845 E60E 9569 292E E365 7098 ABEA

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[Fwd: printing changes for FC5]
by Gavin Henry 21 Oct '05

21 Oct '05

Initial relnote for Printing. See Tim's last question. ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: printing changes for FC5 From: "Tim Waugh" <twaugh(a)redhat.com> Date: Fri, October 21, 2005 1:56 pm To: "Gavin Henry" <ghenry(a)suretecsystems.com> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Gavin, Sorry I didn't get to sending this to you yesterday. Here are some noteworthy things that have changed in FC5: o HPLIP is now included, and replaces HPOJ. HPLIP is the transport mechanism for HP printers including OfficeJet multifunction devices. It also includes an update version of the HPIJS inkjet driver, and a new program `hp-toolbox' for monitoring the status of attached devices (such as ink levels etc). o ESP Ghostscript is now included instead of GPL Ghostscript. ESP Ghostscript includes many cross-vendor fixes on top of GPL Ghostscript. o New major version of Ghostscript: ESP Ghostcript 8.15.1 included, replacing GPL Ghostscript 7.07. Do we need to mention things like that CUPS is now compiled using -fstack-protector-all for better protection against stack overflow security exploits? Tim. */

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Re: Fedora docs processing (Was: [fedora-java] batik [Fwd: Re: com.sun.image.*])
by Karsten Wade 20 Oct '05

20 Oct '05

(setting reply-to for f-docs-l, pardon the cross-post, feel free to override headings in replies) On Wed, 2005-10-19 at 16:11 -0700, Anthony Green wrote: > On Wed, 2005-10-19 at 11:31 -0700, Brion Vibber wrote: > > I've looked a little bit at the files but haven't had a chance to try > > actually working on it. If someone else is itching to work on it, PLEASE > > feel free to start! > > Ok, thanks for the update Brion. > > I'm wondering if the simplest solution for the Fedora Docs team is for > us to strip out Batik's JPEG handling. Perhaps it's not required for > their work-flow. > > Karsten - can you provide some simple docs and show us how you would > process them using a proprietary Java solution? We should be able to > determine from this whether or not we can ignore the problem classes (as > a near term solution). AFAIK, we are using PNG and EPS only for our graphics. I don't know of any reason we cannot strip out JPEG handling. Fedora doc folk, what think ye? - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, RHCE * Sr. Tech Writer * http://people.redhat.com/kwade/ gpg fingerprint: 2680 DBFD D968 3141 0115 5F1B D992 0E06 AD0E 0C41 Red Hat SELinux Guide http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-4-Manual/selinux-guide/

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translation
by Partha Goswami 20 Oct '05

20 Oct '05

hi there, I have decideded to translate the Reslease Note in Bengali. I have seen that there is a problem in office software in FC3 . when You select Bengali lanuagge , in your system , it's almost ok . But when you want close any window ,particularly in word the three option viz. save, discard , cancel are shown in coding system. It's difficult to understand . I have think when all things including help material will translate into Bengali lanuagge. So, how it will? send coment. thanks . partha goswami __________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/

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minutes FDSCo 18-Oct-2005
by Karsten Wade 20 Oct '05

20 Oct '05

Hi, I'm just back from vacation and catching up. Sorry if you didn't know I was away, I was practicing Red Hat tradition of working like crazy then disappearing for two weeks. I was not allowed to work on Fedora stuff during my vacation. ;-) Attendees: ========== Karsten Wade Tommy Reynolds Stuart Elliss Gavin Henry Paul Frields Here is the page that we updated: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/FedoraDocsSchedule We are now working from this page. I am trying out new formats for these minutes that just highlight what happened. Highlights: =========== * First, temporary translation process is not at: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/Translation * Seeking, still seeking help with a gcj compiled FOP (and Saxon). Anthony Green is helping us find a developer to fix our problems, perhaps to carry the package into Fedora Extras. * DocsRawhide is the nickname for the structure that is going to extract all versions of a document from CVS (tagged by release and HEAD), build them to all targets (HTML, PDF, RPM, etc.) in all languages, and make these URLs available via a webpage. This process happens as a rolling build, making it possible to distribute links to your latest documents that are in CVS. We have hardware identified and are working out technical responsibilities and scheduling to make this happen. * Beat writer positions are starting to fill up with developers from individual projects. You can still get yourself involved, working directly with the developers. More at: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/ReleaseNotes/Beats . * We are doing out first MoinMoin Wiki to DocBook XML conversion for the release notes based on a snapshot to be taken on 22 December. Wish us luck! If you want to help, contact kwade(a)redhat.com. ## 30 ## -- Karsten Wade, RHCE * Sr. Tech Writer * http://people.redhat.com/kwade/ gpg fingerprint: 2680 DBFD D968 3141 0115 5F1B D992 0E06 AD0E 0C41 Red Hat SELinux Guide http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-4-Manual/selinux-guide/

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FC4 Release Notes Imported into Wiki
by Stuart Ellis 19 Oct '05

19 Oct '05

http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Beats/ I've imported the material as-is, except for essential edits. Note that the FC4 Release Notes also Overview, Splash, Project Overview, and Feedback sections, which don't correspond to any Beats. -- Stuart Ellis stuart(a)elsn.org Fedora Documentation Project: http://fedora.redhat.com/projects/docs/ GPG key ID: 7098ABEA GPG key fingerprint: 68B0 E291 FB19 C845 E60E 9569 292E E365 7098 ABEA

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Including Fedora documentation in yelp
by Matthias Clasen 17 Oct '05

17 Oct '05

We want to integrate Fedora documentation a bit better with the desktop for FC5 (see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=170813 and https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=170847) I have patched yelp in rawhide to include documents on the front page which are registered with scrollkeeper in the category General|Linux|Distributions|Other (scrollkeeper uses a fixed set of categories, and there is no Fedora category). It would be great to have at least a short introduction ("About Fedora"), the release notes, and a user guide visible there. Regards, Matthias

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Re: CVSROOT avail,1.13,1.14
by Paul W. Frields 13 Oct '05

13 Oct '05

On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 09:46 -0400, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 18:02 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > > > I can't seem to figure out a graceful way of adding our stuff into the > > > > Main Menu without it -- it just ends up in "Other" when I use the > > > > "Documentation" category, and I haven't been able to figure out how to > > > > make a drop-file for /etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged/ to make this > > > > work. If either of them had input, that would be great, even if that > > > > input is "you're an idiot, here's the drop file you need." (The first > > > > part all by itself is not as helpful, probably.) > > > > > > There might be a way, I'd have to investigate. Mark, do you know? > > > > Any indicators on this issue? Filed bug to track: > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/169627 > > I thought I'd replied to this already, maybe not. I've replied in the > bug now. Thanks to Mark correcting my ill-fated attempts to drop in a docs menu, we're in business. The docs-common module is updated and if you "make rpm" from that module and the example-tutorial module, you'll be able to install both on your system and see a Documentation menu magically appear! As mentioned before, yelp and khelpviewer will also see these docs through scrollkeeper, but they are not as easy to find. Currently the menu entry just calls "gnome-help <URI>", but this will be replaced with "fedora-docviewer <URI>," which will point to a script that will figure out which viewer is proper for the user's desktop environment, and set the URI accordingly. Any assistance here would be gratefully accepted. I think Mr. Laska is going to help me clean up these ugly Makefiles, at which point they will be incorporated properly into Makefile.common as necessary. -- Paul W. Frields, RHCE http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 Fedora Documentation Project: http://fedora.redhat.com/projects/docs/

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Minutes FDSCo 11 Oct 2005
by Paul W. Frields 12 Oct '05

12 Oct '05

Canonical schedule and tasks: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/FedoraDocsSchedule Summary of Updates and New Tasks: ================================= * Gavin will send emails this week soliciting beat writers and general contributors to the wiki (and possibly CVS). Some of these writers will hopefully help with the burgeoning need for guidebooks which are currently being drafted on the wiki. * New contributors should probably submit a CLA via https://admin.fedora.redhat.com/accounts/ so they understand legal requirements on Fedora work, even for docs. Docs work should also be free of legal encumbrance. * Stuart and others continue to be available on #fedora-wiki to help new contributors. Stuart has posted his hours of availability at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/StuartEllis * Paul has drafted packaging scripts in the example-tutorial CVS module. He is still working on the fedora-doc-common RPM build, as well as word from the redhat-menus maintainers on adding a "Documentation" menu back into Fedora. (This menu does not supersede yelp/khelpviewer.) He will need help (Tommy?) in making the Makefile additions i18n-compatible. * Stuart and Paul will start sweeping out old bug cruft where possible. Attending: ========== Gavin Henry (G2) Tammy Fox (tcf) Stuart Ellis (elliss) Paul W. Frields (stickster) -- Paul W. Frields, RHCE http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 Fedora Documentation Project: http://fedora.redhat.com/projects/docs/

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