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FDSCo Meeting 2007-10-28 IRC log
by Paul W. Frields 29 Oct '07

29 Oct '07

13:02 < stickster> <meeting> 13:02 < jmbuser> John Babich 13:03 * stickster yields floor to quaid__ to run 13:03 < quaid__> oh, thanks 13:03 < quaid__> I don't even have a proper nick 13:04 * quaid__ grabs for agenda straws 13:04 < quaid__> oh, did we need/want to vote to remove the % of l10n to be included? 13:04 < stickster> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/SteeringCommittee/Meetings 13:04 < quaid__> I think that's a done deal? 13:05 < stickster> Well, there were exactly 0 objections, so I think we could move on that basis 13:05 * jmbuser returns 13:05 < stickster> It really makes sense, since the rest of Fedora sets no such boundaries 13:06 < stickster> So +1 here 13:06 < quaid__> +1 here too 13:06 < quaid__> isn't that package spun though? 13:06 < jmbuser> ? 13:06 < stickster> This is how the current package is generated, so this generates an action item for me of "nothing" 13:06 < stickster> ;-) 13:06 < quaid__> ok 13:07 < stickster> tee hee 13:07 -!- stickster changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora Documentation meeting - Revisor docs? 13:07 < quaid__> ah, thanks, yes 13:08 < stickster> I'm not sure what the purpose of this agenda item is at this point. We agreed last meeting to talk about this on list, but no one did 13:08 < quaid__> well 13:08 < quaid__> you sent a post 13:08 < quaid__> and there wasn't more after that? 13:08 * quaid__ smells a fast meeting at this rate 13:08 < stickster> There was one query from MarcW about it, but it was more asking the same question as the original post 13:08 < quaid__> yeah, we still need to discuss that, i think 13:09 < stickster> I'm happy there are people on the list doing anything at this point 13:09 < stickster> couf++ 13:09 < stickster> As long as couf keeps those folks engaged and on top of the AdminGuide tasks, progress will continue! :-) 13:10 < SgtDitt> ;-) 13:10 < quaid__> ok, so that item is bounced on the agenda until discussion occurs on list 13:10 < quaid__> newbsters++ are fun to help 13:10 < stickster> I've noticed that the reorganization of the fp.o front pages (static) now cast the wiki in the role of "developer docs" 13:11 < quaid__> hmmm 13:11 < quaid__> yah-ish 13:11 * stickster makes notes for a post to f-docs-l on this topic 13:11 < quaid__> I was thinking about 'community documentation' 13:11 < quaid__> w/ the click-through CLA we can really drive more users to write one-off stuff there 13:12 * quaid__ his having a singular inability to fix his nick, so will remain underscored for now 13:12 < quaid__> so 13:12 < quaid__> shall we poke at old wounds? 13:12 < quaid__> or what else would be fun? 13:13 < stickster> jmbuser: How are DUG efforts going? 13:14 < stickster> Anybody feel like going through bug lists to see what we can throw out or resolve quickly until ~1800 UTC or so? 13:14 < jmbuser> jmbuser: My day job is being uncooperative 13:14 < stickster> ah 13:15 < quaid__> jmbuser: probably more important than writing is coordinating other writers ... 13:15 < stickster> My sentiments exactly 13:15 < stickster> jmbuser: Might be a good chance to get a couple of the new folks on the list helping, then you do less work yourself. 13:16 < jmbuser> agreed 13:16 < quaid__> stickster: bug smashing? sure ... particular tracker? or maybe I should just start with what I own already ... 13:16 < quaid__> jmbuser: maybe coordinate a 'pile on'? refresh the tasks list and call for people to put down their pen on other stuff and take one section to finish? 13:17 < stickster> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?product=Fedora+Documentation&bug_st… 13:17 < stickster> Only 99, not too shabby, and some of those are trackers 13:17 < quaid__> r-o 13:17 < quaid__> that is, right on 13:17 < quaid__> I'll start with what is assigned to me, from the top :) 13:17 * quaid__ can meet in IRC and bug smash at the same time, like HULK! 13:18 < stickster> OK, no reason to belabor this meeting then 13:18 < stickster> Maybe an AOB call? 13:18 * couf thanks: stupid me, forgot dst change 13:19 < couf> s/thanks/thinks 13:19 < quaid__> I am quite time confused, btw 13:19 < quaid__> it appears I didn't catch the tzdata update ... 13:19 < stickster> Uh? 13:19 < stickster> It's still DST here in US, right? Until next Sunday? 13:20 < SgtDitt> yes 13:20 < couf> euorpe changed today 13:20 < stickster> couf: Thanks, didn't realize that :-) 13:20 < quaid__> stickster: my clock changed last night because I didn't have an updated tzdata package 13:20 < couf> in other words, I could have gotten here :-/ 13:21 < stickster> quaid__: oops, RHEL updates! 13:21 * stickster moves to adjourn since we're all about the TZ now 13:22 < SgtDitt> what are the big pushes for F9 docs/ 13:22 < SgtDitt> ? 13:22 < stickster> SgtDitt: We REALLY need to have a DUG and an AdminGuide done. Like, three releases ago. 13:23 < couf> well yeah, that's the plan essentially 13:23 < quaid__> aye 13:24 < quaid__> yep, just those two are encompassing 13:25 < SgtDitt> finalize a list of what is desired in both guides, and I'll get busy 13:25 < stickster> SgtDitt: So if you have time and enthusiasm, please feel free to plow ahead on those. 13:25 < stickster> SgtDitt: You can work with couf, jmbuser, and other writers on the f-docs-l to coordinate big issues like organization and coverage. 13:25 < quaid__> SgtDitt: I think there is some good stuffin the tasks 13:25 < quaid__> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/Tasks 13:26 < quaid__> SgtDitt: that + the current ToC is a good start 13:26 < quaid__> we can always expand it after publishing 13:26 < quaid__> SgtDitt: how much from-DocBook have you done so far? 13:27 < SgtDitt> posting sendmail, dns, samba, squid this weekend 13:27 < SgtDitt> cleaning up my trashy pros... ;-) 13:27 < quaid__> hopefully the extra collaboration is worth it 13:28 < couf> yeah it's quite nice actually 13:28 < quaid__> anyway, the docbook conversion from Wiki isn't too terrible 13:29 < stickster> If you use a decent editor for adjusting tags it can go quite quickly 13:29 < stickster> Go Emacs! 13:29 < quaid__> ok, then ... 13:29 < quaid__> any other business? 13:29 < stickster> 0 13:29 < couf> 0 13:29 < SgtDitt> 0 13:30 < quaid__> okey 13:30 * quaid__ does the countdown dance 13:30 < quaid__> 5 13:30 < quaid__> 4 13:30 < quaid__> 3 13:30 < quaid__> 2 13:30 < quaid__> 1 13:30 < quaid__> </meeting> -- Paul W. Frields, RHCE http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 Fedora Project: http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug

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RedHat Magazine
by Marc Wiriadisastra 29 Oct '07

29 Oct '07

I found awhile ago a step by step guide for DNS on RedHat machines. The guide is similar to how I set up my Fedora DNS server. I was wondering what the process is with RedHat Magazine how to's since they have a fair bit in the magazine. Is it a situation of emailing the author or does it need to go through a different method. I have enclosed some links which may help/hinder people doing documentation but I thought it might be interesting. Cheers, Marc http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/09/28/customized-spins-of-fedora/ http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/06/26/how-to-build-a-dirt-easy-home-nas-… P.S. If my email is very wierd it's because I'm using squirrelmail at the moment and I haven't set anything up :)

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Administration-guide/servers/sfind with the doc posted at:endmail posted
by Mike Dittmeier 29 Oct '07

29 Oct '07

Ok, I have finished converting from docbook to wiki. Please review and post any issues you find for the following posted doc: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/AdministrationGuide/Servers/MailS… Mike "Ditt" Dittmeier, RHCE mike(a)vegasitpros.com pub 1024D/3F08ECFB 2007-09-11 [expires: 2008-09-10] Key fingerprint = 8396 9850 E308 4EFF 1A22 6C5A 4FF5 DF6C 3F08 ECFB uid Mike Dittmeier (Just "Ditt" to my friends) <mike(a)vegasitpros.com> sub 2048g/1E6E4DBD 2007-09-11 [expires: 2008-09-10]

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DRAFT Release Schedule
by cornel panceac 29 Oct '07

29 Oct '07

it looks like all over this page http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/9/Schedule we should replace 2007 with 2008. thnx.

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Looking for Beat Writers for Fedora Weekly News
by Thomas Chung 29 Oct '07

29 Oct '07

RE: Looking for Beat Writers for Fedora Weekly News Hello, We have two openings for volunteer Beat Writers who can cover following mailing lists: * fedora-docs-list * fedora-arts-list If you're interested in, please contact me in private. [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Beats Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung

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copying content from a past presentation
by Murray McAllister 28 Oct '07

28 Oct '07

Hi, I made a very small start on the DNS section. Is it okay if I copy+paste text from a presentation/talk I did, or is that now allowed? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/AdministrationGuide/UserAccounts… Thanks, Murray. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- pub 1024D/81B3FDEB 2007-09-19 [expires: 2008-09-18] Key fingerprint = 4ED9 9907 5BF0 4132 2B46 20D1 C0C6 362D 81B3 FDEB Murray McAllister (Fedora Docs Project / mdious) <murray.mcallister(a)gmail.com> sub 2048g/B04CFA0C 2007-09-19 [expires: 2008-09-18]

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Revisor
by Marc Wiriadisastra 28 Oct '07

28 Oct '07

I know there was discussion about Revisor getting written but just searching the wiki Jeroen aka. Kanarip has put a lot of documentation up there already. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JeroenVanMeeuwen/Revisor I would think this would be more of shifting it to docbook now? Just thought I would point it out if anyone was looking at adding Revisor to any guides. Cheers, Marc

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Self-Introduction: Debjit Saha
by Debjit Saha 26 Oct '07

26 Oct '07

Full legal name : Debjit Saha City, Country : Mumbai (India). Currently I am stay in Ranchi in India due to my college-education purposes. But I am basically from Mumbai (india). Currently I am pursuing a Bachelor`s Degree in Engineering majoring in Electronics and Telecommunications from Birla Institute of Technology, Mesra, Ranchi-India. I am into my third semester now. I plan to write documentation for any general software available on Fedora. I have successfully completed a course in technical writing at my college. Thus I can very well handle the documentation part of any software. I have been regularly writing for our college magazine in the Linux section and also I work with my Local LUGs both in Ranchi and Mumbai. I am also responsible for the formation of a LUG in my college. I have also designed and documented websites for various organisations in the past. I am well familiar with programming on the GNU C++ compiler and also have command over scripting languages-BASH. And concerning Soft-skills, I have been actively the part of both the managerial and hospitality committee of various events both local and in the College. GPG-Keys: pub 1024D/549A7D46 2007-10-26 [expires: 2008-01-24] Key fingerprint = 59E9 C4C0 4C4F 2CEE 2149 367A 4BF0 1F7F 549A 7D46 uid Debjit Saha (dkd903 aka Debjit saha) <dkd903(a)gmail.com> sub 2048g/C0DE716A 2007-10-26 [expires: 2008-01-24] cheers, Debjit Saha

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overview
by Marc Wiriadisastra 26 Oct '07

26 Oct '07

The first four paragraphs slightly modified of the Overview page in fedora. Reference to the base version is http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/overview . The bit below is my additions/manipulations. Thoughts would be great. ////////////////////Overview/////////////////////////////////////////// An operating system, a set of projects, and a mindset. What is Fedora? Fedora is a Linux-based operating system that showcases the latest in free and open source software. Sponsored by Red Hat who aid in developing new and exciting <a href="technologyhttp://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RedHatContributions" Contributions>. Fedora is always free for anyone to use, modify, and distribute. It is built by people across the globe who work together as a community: the Fedora Project. The Fedora Project is open and anyone is welcome to join. The Fedora Project is out front for you, leading the advancement of free, open software and content. The operating system is Fedora. The predictable bi-yearly releases and the continuing support for over twelve months are able to show you the users and supporters the latest advancements available in the open software world. It's completely free, and we're committed to keeping it that way. It's the best combination of robust and latest software that exists in the free software world. The mindset is doing the right thing. To us, that means providing free, innovative open software content, at no cost, freely usable, modifiable, redistributable, and unencumbered by software patents. Our partnership and sponsorship by Red Hat has enabled us to provide quality open software content to the community. This open software is providing benefits to millions of users around the globe with software contributions such as SELinux, Xen Virtualization and Smolt to name a few. The expansion of architectures have provided support for Sparc, Alpha, IA64 and Arm with many more to follow. The strong participation with the community of volunteers have helped to create improvements in the way you install and maintain Fedora. Some notable additions from the community have been Revisor, pungi and the livecd-tools where you can create your personal spin of Fedora. ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// There are a few bits there where I think I might have gone to far. Please critique as to whether I should cut some out and put it in other places. I'm hoping the page(Fedora Feature Overview) that is being discussed on the marketing list will get completed so that can be linked somewhere within this document. Cheers, Marc

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Knowledge Base For Fedora
by Rahul Sundaram 25 Oct '07

25 Oct '07

Hi I have filed a infrastructure request. https://hosted.fedoraproject.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/208 If anyone in the docs team has some input, feel free to add comments. Rahul

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