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stand up
by Karsten Wade 12 Dec '07

12 Dec '07

If you have interest in setting the direction of this project ... If you'd like to help lead a premier Linux documentation project ... Nominate yourself: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/SteeringCommittee/Nominations I'm serious ... with a wink and a smile. ;-) - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41

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Release Notes goof
by Paul W. Frields 11 Dec '07

11 Dec '07

Apparently there was a validation error in one of the en_US XML files for the Docs release-notes module, F-8 branch. When I fixed it, it perturbed a few of the strings. Therefore, we will wait another week to roll a new package update, to give translators time to look at the changes and correct them. The problem may be constrained to just a handful of strings. I apologize for the inconvenience! -- Paul W. Frields, RHCE http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 Fedora Project: http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug

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[Bug 244505] [INFORMATION] Upgrading from FC6 to F7 via yum
by Red Hat Bugzilla 10 Dec '07

10 Dec '07

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: [INFORMATION] Upgrading from FC6 to F7 via yum https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=244505 razvan.sandu(a)mobexpert.ro changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |CLOSED Resolution| |NOTABUG -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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Gnome and KDE
by Jason 10 Dec '07

10 Dec '07

Last night in IRC it came up about documenting both KDE and Gnome walk-throughs when writing docs. This is sort of aimed at John and his group working on KDE stuff already, do you want KDE docs written separate? For example would it be OK to include a menu walk-through for both Gnome and KDE when writing an independent doc (e.g. not attached/related to the DUG)? My thought is that a single doc that includes all the relevant instructions for a particular task would be good. However, if the larger idea is to have 2 separate doc trees (i.e. Gnome and KDE) then this would not be a good idea. -Jason

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cvsdocs requests
by Karsten Wade 10 Dec '07

10 Dec '07

Couple of quick points/questions about requests to join the 'cvsdocs' group. * Is there an outdated set of instructions somewhere that tell translators they need to request 'cvsdocs' access? - That used to be true but is no longer needed (since the creation of 'cvsl10n'.) * I personally don't receive email about requests for 'cvsdocs'. It seems the 'Administrator' role doesn't get those, by design. Is anyone else getting these alerts? - The folks who are 'Sponsors' should be getting those thx - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41

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Who I am
by Karl Larsen 10 Dec '07

10 Dec '07

Good morning. My name is Karl Larsen and I want to write the help for the gui device called Users and Groups. I am 72 years old and may die before a project is complete. On the Fedora list one person said there is a help for this device but I sure do not have it on my F7 or F8. I can write but it is likely to be old fashioned. I hope that is not a problem. Karl -- Karl F. Larsen, AKA K5DI Linux User #450462 http://counter.li.org.

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User Feedback on Fedora CD and DVD Writing Guide
by John Babich 09 Dec '07

09 Dec '07

To Whom It May Concern (especially stickster): A computer-savvy friend of mine downloaded the DVD ISO and needed to burn a bootable DVD to install Fedora 8. (He finally had enough of Windows XP and Windows Genuine Advantage, but that's another story.) I pointed him to the "Fedora Guide on Burning CDs and DVDs", my paraphrase of the title. Here's his feedback: "OK, now coming to you from a Fedora 8 system using a Firefox web browser. At least a few things are familiar! I think I've figured out the problems a bit better now. The application Fedora recommends to write bootable files is hard-coded to use CDs. If you follow the links on the man's page, you can see where his Vista release is where he started supporting DVDs. The other applications, Nero, Roxio, HonestSoft and several others also had some hard-coding inside. Specifically, they assumed a 3.2GB file must be a video and it modified the format to something appropriate for delivering video data but was no longer bootable. They also assumed that if a bootable DVD was wanted, the information to be written was very small. They would not write the file in UDF but instead used some other format which in turn, did not support files over 2GB. Obviously this resulted in an error code followed by exit." I hope this is useful. At least this story has a happy ending. :-) Best Regards, John Babich Volunteer, Fedora Docs Project

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Users and Groups
by Karl Larsen 09 Dec '07

09 Dec '07

I got interested in writing some documentation for this Application since there appears to not be any. Who is in charge of this task? Karl -- Karl F. Larsen, AKA K5DI Linux User #450462 http://counter.li.org. GPG DF28 8F18 94F8 D5C6 9E44 163F 7FD1 3D06 C325 DA40

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NSA guide to securing Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5
by Murray McAllister 09 Dec '07

09 Dec '07

Hi, There is a fantastic "Guide to the Secure Configuration of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5" PDF available here: http://www.nsa.gov/snac/downloads_redhat.cfm?MenuID=scg10.3.1.1 It looks like it would be an invaluable resource for research for the Fedora Admin Guide. Among many other things, it covers IMAP/POP3, DNS, Web, Samba, Proxies, LDAP etc. Kind Regards, Murray. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- pub 1024D/81B3FDEB 2007-09-19 [expires: 2008-09-18] Key fingerprint = 4ED9 9907 5BF0 4132 2B46 20D1 C0C6 362D 81B3 FDEB Murray McAllister (Fedora Docs Project / mdious) <murray.mcallister(a)gmail.com> sub 2048g/B04CFA0C 2007-09-19 [expires: 2008-09-18]

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FDSCo Meeting 2007-12-09 IRC log
by John Babich 09 Dec '07

09 Dec '07

<couf> all righty, roll up your sleeves <couf> meeting topics: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/SteeringCommittee/Meetings <jmbuser> go for it * couf has changed the topic to: Fedora Documentation -- guide status <couf> How are we doing on the DUG and AG? <jmbuser> jmbuser: Interest remains high in producing a quality DUG, as witnessed by the mailing list. * jmbuser excuses himself for mumbling to himself * couf missed this weeks productivity, been working nuts <jmbuser> I am now the beat writers for docs, so read all about it <couf> cool jmbuser <jmbuser> couf: Not much else to report - hoping to do some revisions myself and encourage others to do the same <jmbuser> couf: I am encouraged by new volunteers with fresh energy and ideas <jmbuser> end of my DUG report <couf> as I said, I've been out of the loop, so I've got to catch up with the AG * stickster appreciates jmbuser making objectives clear on ML <jmbuser> stickster: Thanks <couf> other guides we need to touch? <jmbuser> Is Admin Guide ready for publication? * quaid comes by purely out of chance but chooses to hang out <jmbuser> quaidL Howdy! <couf> jmbuser: for my part, not yet, it's still a bit scaterred information, it needs some integration works <couf> foundation is great, and I'm thankfull for all the work that's gone in too it, but it misses some coherence <jmbuser> couf: That suggests freezing the content and doing an editorial pass. <stickster> I think there are people still asking on the list about subject matter areas to include <stickster> Those discussions should probably be explored and concluded before we freeze * EvilBob is glad to see quaid's name on the FUDCon list <couf> stickster: true that <jmbuser> couf: Next agenda item? <couf> I'm wondering if we want to put some deadlines on that work? <couf> as in, get it done before we dive into the release-specific stuff again <jmbuser> couf: +1 <couf> current schedule, says 24 Jan is alpha-release notes deadline <couf> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/Schedule <stickster> couf: Now that you're back, you can probably crack some whips on the list <couf> okidoki <couf> so next up: * couf has changed the topic to: Fedora Documentation -- elections <couf> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-docs-list/2007-December/msg00011.html <couf> I remember us all agreeing that this was doable, although, we might have a slight problem: <couf> ambassadors election has been moved back a week, due to lack of nominees <couf> it might happen that they don't have an election, but if they do, we're having it at the same time <couf> and the voting app can't cope with dual elections <EvilBob> well if ambassadors needs to reschedule they should now have to reschedule around us <quaid> ah, voting app limitations <jmbuser> I recall John adding FDSCo election to the official schedule <quaid> EvilBob: +1 true that\ <couf> jmbuser: correct, http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f9/f-9-all-details.html <couf> well then, we missed our start, nominations should be open right now <EvilBob> It should not be our projects fault that not enough people care about ambassadors leadership, if we ave to wait until they have an election we might never get our turn. <couf> EvilBob: right <stickster> We have three seats up this time? <EvilBob> stickster: correct <quaid> argh, sorry meant to send a note * jmbuser throws his hat in the rng <jmbuser> s /rng/ ring/ <quaid> about the nominations start * jmbuser is running on his typing skills :-) * stickster moves we clear out the current nominations page and make way for new writeups <couf> yeah, mine, jmbuser's and pawel's seat are up for election * stickster hopes you guys will be putting yourselves in for re-election <EvilBob> lets just get this rolling, announce the opening NOW, and stick to our other dates <EvilBob> it is not like the opening for nominations has been a secret <jmbuser> +1 <stickster> True dat, it was posted to the mailing list <stickster> did it make Fedora News? <stickster> oops, s/News/Weekly News/ <jmbuser> I put it in for this week <EvilBob> that I don't know but it can be in tomorrow's <jmbuser> complete with dates <jmbuser> EvilBob: It's in tomorrow's edition * quaid sends note about nominations being open <stickster> I'm blogging it too. <quaid> good <couf> yep, I'll blog it too <couf> okay, the rest of the election process has been done already, so * couf has changed the topic to: Fedora Documentation -- AOB <jmbuser> +1 <EvilBob> FUDCon * couf can't come :-( <EvilBob> I see three of us on the list, are we doing anything Docs related to get some fresh blood? <EvilBob> I see "Developer Guide Reboot -- Paul W. Frields" <jmbuser> likewise :-( <stickster> Yup, this is a pet project of mine, but I want to find out at FUDCon what the developers think <stickster> I should probably blog something in advance too to gather input <EvilBob> I would really like to put together a Packaging guide, maybe FUDCon is the right place to look at that again. <stickster> I want to canonize current documentation on Fedora code development. This could be a difficult project depending on how much is projected to change over the next cycle with packaging + engineering. <couf> great idea stickster <stickster> I want to be careful to avoid trying to pack fast-moving targets into a Development Guide because it will simply create maintenance nightmares. <EvilBob> Working on my SIG (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/AmateurRadio) I have found a lot of holes in the existing packaging stuff on the wiki <stickster> But there is a lot that could be written up to get people started on Fedora as a development platform, including software setup and tips. <stickster> EvilBob: Have you brought it up with the Packaging committee? <stickster> spot is pretty darned good about coverage in the packaging docs, the majority of which he's worked on or written <EvilBob> stickster: it is all about "experience" really <EvilBob> stickster: yeah spot has been a big help <EvilBob> I would really like us to do the "multi-location" hackfest for FUDCon if we have stuff to work on. <jmbuser> +1 * stickster is into that idea. <couf> +1 too * couf needs to run for a bit <quaid> word <jmbuser> Any other business? <EvilBob> nope <EvilBob> wrap it up <jmbuser> +1 <stickster> +1 <EvilBob> In 60 <EvilBob> 45 <EvilBob> 30 <EvilBob> 15 <EvilBob> 5 <EvilBob> 4 <EvilBob> 3 <EvilBob> 2 <EvilBob> 1 <EvilBob> </meeting>

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