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Self-Introduction, Wu Yu
by 吴愚 12 Apr '07

12 Apr '07

Hi all, Very pleased to join the fedora-docs-list! I am a undergraduate student of Tongji University, Shanghai, China, majored in Computer Science. I got good marks with my studies and was recommended to have graduate course without tests. I've been using Fedora Core from 1 to 6 since 2005 and I had a great experience. It widen my eyes with its beautiful user desktop and lots of open source software which I could modify them the way I wish! I consider it as a high efficiency operating system in which I could customize everything I like. One of the most important experience I have was that I won the third prize of National Intel Cup Embedded Competetion with the development environment of Fedora Core 4. Qt, Kdevelopment, Gaim....These tools really gave me excited experience. And most important of all, I enjoyed myself very much! Now I'm not satified with that I'm only a user. I want to be involved as one of the fedora core developers, too. First, I need to know more about Fedora Core, so I decide to work on the documentations first. And I'm ready to dodge myself in it! I hope you could accept me and help me at my startup. Thanks very much! Wu Yu

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Re: hi, will you please add me to the EditGroup of FedoraCoreProject?
by Yuan Yijun 12 Apr '07

12 Apr '07

2007/4/13, 吴愚 <kiluawuyu(a)gmail.com>: > Hi, > I'm a undergraduate student of Tongji University, Shanghai, majored in > Computer Science. I've been using fedora core since 2005 and I think it it a > fantastic linux distribution. > I won the third-prize of Intel Cup Embedde Competetion with the > development environment of Fedora Core 4, and always kept up the latest > function and characteristic, such as beryl, xen, etc. Fedora Core gives me a > lot of fun and now I'm eager to be involved of it. > I decided to start as a translator of Fedora Core Documentations, so I > could learn more about FC and help others to get more information about FC > at the same time. > So will you please add me to the EditGroup? Thanks very much! > Looking forward to your reply. > > Wu Yu Hi, Have you get the following things done: * acquire an account for fedora account system * register a wiki account (if so, what is your account?) * join fedora-docs-list and fedora-trans-list * post a "SelfIntroduction" to the fedora-docs-list * request for proper cvs group priviledges (cvsl10n, cvsdocs) Thanks! -- bbbush ^_^

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[Fwd: [Fedora Project Wiki] Update of "Docs/Beats/Colophon" by MagnusLarsson]
by Karsten Wade 12 Apr '07

12 Apr '07

-------- Forwarded Message -------- - * [http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MagnusLarrson Magnus Larrson] (translator - Swedish) + * [http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MagnusLarsson Magnus Larsson] (translator - Swedish) D'oh! I think that was my mistake; rather obvious, too. Anyway, I fixed this in the XML but did *not* update the POT file. We'll merge this fix back into all the PO files after they are returned from translation, so the correction will make it into the ISO. :) - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, RHCE, 108 Editor ^ Fedora Documentation Project Sr. Developer Relations Mgr. | fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject quaid.108.redhat.com | gpg key: AD0E0C41 ////////////////////////////////// \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\

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Self-Introduction: Jonathan Roberts
by Jonathan Roberts 12 Apr '07

12 Apr '07

Hi! My name is Jonathan Roberts and I've been following the list for a while and thinking about contributing but not really sure about the best place to start - I figured I can't go wrong with a self-introduction :D Things you may want to know about me: I live in the UK and I'm currently taking a gap year before heading off to university to study Theology, rather bizarely after changing my mind about studying Physics and Philosophy last year! To help me pass the time I've worked on a few projects: the Questions Please... podcast (http://questionsplease.org) where I've interviewed a range of very exciting people including Richard Stallman, Jeremy Allison, Jeff Waugh and Mark Shuttleworth - though struggling to get a hold of someone from the Fedora Project; I've also almost finished producing the "Free Me" DVD - an attempt to promote free culture in general (http://questionsplease.org/freeme/) which I'm quite excited about. As for my qualifications as a writer/editor: I studied English at higher level on the International Bacallaureate and scored a 5 (hugely disappointed not to have got a 6); I've been doing a bit of writing for Free Software Magazine (http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/blog/31677) and also a bit of editing when they've been short on time. I don't really have an idea of specific documents I would like to (help) write at the minute, I'll be sure to give this some thought over the next few days, but I do know that I would like to contribute back something to Fedora and I have the time and the inclination to, hopefully, make a reasonable contribution to the documentation project; if there's ever any editing that needs doing I'm happy to look over things like that as well. Well, that is possibly the longest self introduction you're ever likely to see?! Oh, and my GPG Key ID etc: B923BC72 1735 EF16 3EF2 EF9D A2DD 02B0 A791 8B23 B923 BC72 I prefer, however, to use webmail because I often access my e-mail from a number of different systems and it's easier for me to stay organised this way. I hope this is OK. Yours kindly, Jonathan Roberts

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Re: DUG Connecting to internet skipped...
by Nicolas A. Corrarello 12 Apr '07

12 Apr '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I asked someone to provide with In English screenshot, guess no one got to it yet. ... Please don't skip my page... nc Jonathan Roberts escribió: >> >> As for the vision, my eyesight's a little cloudy right now. I envision >> >> a core >> >> of common topics, such as OpenOffice.org and Firefox, with special >> >> sections on the particulars of GNOME, KDE, etc. A KDE example would >> >> be Konqueror. Of course, the GNOME, KDE and Xfce applications can be >> >> run from any window manager (with the required libraries installed). > > > > Would the best place to start be to try and draw up a comprehensive > > list of topics (or perhaps I should say tasks) that should be covered? > > Might be interesting to ask on the forums to get users feedback on > > what are the common tasks they do... >> >> >> >> I'm open to any ideas on the best way to organize the material. Some >> >> possibilities are: >> >> >> >> 1. Separate guides for GNOME and KDE. Xfce will be included if time >> >> permits. Obviously, there will be a great amount of overlap among the >> >> different guides. I believe these common topics are best handled >> >> by "includes" in both the wiki and DocBook versions. >> >> >> >> 2. A single guide which points out which apps are "native" to which >> >> window manager, but emphasizes that they can mix and match >> >> apps as desired, again with the required libraries installed. > > > > I think it's worth considering that the guides may be used by people > > who might not realise the difference between Gnome and KDE, in which > > case I think an integrated approach might be better as would help to > > make this clear. > > > > Jon -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGHj2T4UWy+d/Ik+4RAqrqAJ9FOiNOMz+dF71SmsMLaGmFtEgoAQCgqc+q nKVYQrNYTSvv/La0+WA0qS8= =NHqR -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Cannot Access Fedora Doc Cvs !!! : (
by vmlinz 12 Apr '07

12 Apr '07

I wanna update my local cvs directory, and run cvs up release-notes-devel, the server replied : Cannot access /cvs/doc/CVSROOT No such file or directory Then i ping fedoraproject.org , no response My translation job is being done , and I wanna make a html to check bugs : (

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Self-Introduction: Peter Sulyok
by Sulyok Peti 12 Apr '07

12 Apr '07

Dear Fedora Members, My name is Péter Sulyok. I am from Budapest, Hungary. (+0100) I work on software development for a multinational mobile corp. I would like to take part in translation of docs/websites/packages, and start the Hungarian Welcome page in the wiki. I have been hanging around Fedora Project since the beginning. I have translated several packages for Fedora and other projects. I tried to write documentation (Firewall Tutorial), develop config tool (GUI for iptables) for Fedora. I have graduated in computer sciences, but I have got my computer skills mainly from the free softwares in the Internet. I work with Java, Oracle PL/SQL, and shell scripts now. I am also familiar with Python, C, C++, PHP, GTK+, QT, autoconf/automake, cvs, subversion, PostgreSQL, and system administration. Some of my products are available here: http://sp.web.elte.hu/index.html.en [peti@sutty ~]$ gpg --fingerprint E2EA75DC pub 1024D/E2EA75DC 2004-10-07 Key fingerprint = EE9A 945B C9FA 2943 656A A75A A92A 82E9 E2EA 75DC uid Sulyok Péter <peti(a)sulyok.hu> sub 2048g/DE2CE616 2004-10-07 Best Regards, Peti

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Fedora 7 DUG
by Karsten Wade 11 Apr '07

11 Apr '07

We need someone to step forward as a lead writer for the DUG. Is that John? You certainly did the bulk of that work in the last months before release. For Fedora 7, we can address some of the issues that we've known about, and which have come up in recent discussions: * Adding KDE * Continue focusing around tasks (what you can do, how to do it) * Push concept material (what is) to other documents For KDE, we'll need someone who knows KDE to write matching sections with the equivalent software. Anyone here interested? Or do we need to recruit someone? Bart has wrote down the process he used for converting the Wiki to XML. While I'm tempted to keep it in XML and edit that directly, I wonder if we'll still get more and better content if we use the Wiki and convert in a few weeks. - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, RHCE, 108 Editor ^ Fedora Documentation Project Sr. Developer Relations Mgr. | fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject quaid.108.redhat.com | gpg key: AD0E0C41 ////////////////////////////////// \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\

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Common snippets
by Paul W. Frields 11 Apr '07

11 Apr '07

So today's realization of using xml:base triggered thoughts of a proper strategy for dealing with snippets. "Snippets" are what we've usually called the small pieces of XML that would be common across many documents, such as: * instructions for using CVS * legal notice in a variety of element structures * special notices such as how to report bugs A snippet might look like this: <tip> <title>Reporting Bugs</title> <para>Use Bugzilla and be forever in our hearts!</para> </tip> I am working on changing all common snippets into gettext form -- that is, using one basic XML (the en_US canonical version) and POT/PO to translate it. This is the same way we treat all other documents and the common entities. PROBLEM: --------- The location of a snippet is a URI that appears in a @href attribute in an <xi:include/> element. That means it can't be translated. But the @href must point to the proper locale version of a file, say, "legalnotice-en_US.xml" versus "legalnotice-pt_BR.xml". How do we ensure the @href points to the right place, in a sane, XML-compliant way? HYPOTHETICAL SOLUTION: ----------------------- 1. Use a new ${XMLSNIPPETS} variable in the document-specific Makefile, which is defined as one or more names of XML snippet files, separated by proper whitespace: XMLSNIPPETS = cvs.xml \ bug-reporting.xml \ legalnotice.xml 2. ${XMLSNIPPETS} file contents are not included in the POT for the specific document -- rather, they are translated in their common location, which only needs to be done once, and again whenever those actual snippets change content. 3. ${XMLSNIPPETS} files are included in the ${XMLDEPFILES} list of dependencies for the validation of the entire XML document. 4. ${XMLSNIPPETS} related targets are added to the Makefile.common to treat these files in a special way -- changing context to the ${FDPCOMMONDIR}/common folder and making any required targets for the indicated locale, then copying those target files (if updated) back to the document-specific locale folder. (In other words, these targets are created in much the same way as project-wide common entities files.) 5. A document author who wants to use a snippet inserts the appropriate XInclude in the document, and updates ${XMLSNIPPETS} in the document-specific Makefile. For an example file "snippet.xml", the XInclude looks like this and works throughout all locales: <xi:include xmlns:xi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XInclude" href="snippet.xml" /> -- Paul W. Frields, RHCE http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 Fedora Project: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PaulWFrields irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug

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[Fwd: Docs/Drafts/DesktopUserGuide its the one for F7?]
by Nicolas A. Corrarello 11 Apr '07

11 Apr '07

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