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FDSCo Meeting 2008-02-05 Summary
by Karsten Wade 06 Feb '08

06 Feb '08

Remove this line, then fill in date above along with other details below Attendees: ----------- Robert 'Bob' Jensen (BobJensen) Bart Couvreur (couf) Karsten Wade (quaid) Summary: --------- * SingleSummary is the current moniker for the single-sourced release summary that covers technical and community focuses for a release, to be used in multiple locations. - Content is joint-ownership between Marketing and Docs - JonRob is leading the effort, working with Rahul - Still defining what we mean and how to do it ACTIONS * JonRob please meet with Karsten, Rahul on IRC to clear up understanding of the goal and how we'll do it * Installation Guide - Bob is meeting with Paul (current maintainer) to do a handover of maintenance - Fedora Unity has a few folks interested in contributing to the ongoing maintenance of this guide - More info by next meeting ACTIONS * Bob meet with Paul on Thursday, report IG plan and schedule to f-docs-l * Relnotes one-sheet for Alpha, Beta - Went out on time for F9 Alpha (thanks JonRob and Rahul) - In the future we need to freeze and convert to a static page for linking to for days around a release. - Plan should include reverting to editable ASAP ACTIONS * Karsten to coordinate with JonRob to make sure we make these process changes * DUG and AG - Parts ready for editing ACTIONS * Couf to send f-docs-l a list of chapters ready to edit * SMG - Parts ready for editing - Technical and wordsmithing editors needed ACTIONS * $EDITOR to work through converted SMG - Jared? * Crypto Guide - Eric still adding parts to this guide - Looking for technical editors to help shape and finalize content ACTIONS * Docs Project contributor needed to help Eric - You? * Meeting time - Need updates from John and Paul - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/SteeringCommittee/MeetingTimeMatr… - Possibly picking a new meeting time or two meeting times to alternate ACTIONS - Paul and John update the MeetingTimeMatrix page

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FDSCo Meeting 2008-02-05 IRC log
by Karsten Wade 06 Feb '08

06 Feb '08

IRC log in pretty HTML format: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/SteeringCommittee/Meetings/Minute… 13:01 < quaid> <meeting> 13:01 -!- quaid changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: FDSCo meeting - greetings and role call 13:02 < quaid> well, I'm here 13:02 * EvilBob Bobjensen 13:04 < EvilBob> Do we have an agenda? 13:04 < quaid> well, sort of 13:04 < quaid> we have what we had last week 13:04 < quaid> I was lookig on list for anything new, and there isn't 13:04 < quaid> I think we'll have a quick meeting :) 13:04 < EvilBob> OK 13:05 < quaid> ok, so ... 13:05 -!- quaid changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: FDSCo - one summary 13:05 * couf here 13:05 < EvilBob> I have an update for the install guide also 13:05 < quaid> so, renamed SingleSummary 13:05 < quaid> and work still needs to happen to figure out what belongs where 13:06 < quaid> JonRob is doing a good job with it 13:06 < quaid> anything else on that? 13:06 -!- quaid changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: FDSCo - content status update 13:06 < couf> one small thing 13:06 < quaid> couf: go ahead 13:06 < couf> is this Docs-owned or Marketing? 13:07 -!- stickster is now known as stickster_afk 13:07 < quaid> ~yes 13:07 < EvilBob> LOL 13:07 < quaid> couf: I think we need to both own the content, and wrangle it together 13:07 * couf not 100% up2date on that 13:07 < couf> right 13:08 < quaid> we'll get it figured out soon, I reckon, and on list 13:08 < quaid> EvilBob: go head with IG 13:08 < EvilBob> this is different than the one sheet release note, correct? 13:08 < quaid> yes 13:08 < quaid> but 13:08 < EvilBob> K 13:09 < quaid> we can pull from the SingleSummary to populate the top parts of the one-sheet, conceivably 13:09 < quaid> (if useful, etc.) 13:09 < quaid> EvilBob: IG? 13:10 < EvilBob> I am meeting with Paul on thursday evening, going to get going on the IG, I have recruited two helpers that do a majority of the installs in the fedora unity re-spin testing process 13:10 < EvilBob> So I will maybe need some CVS and docbook help in the comign weeks 13:10 < quaid> are you and Paul going to consider additions/enhancements to the IG? other than whatever changes come from anaconda 13:10 < EvilBob> coming 13:10 < EvilBob> quaid: exacty 13:11 < EvilBob> quaid: there are some areas that need more info to flesh the doc out 13:11 < quaid> do you know yet what F9 release or date we are targetting the IG beta for? 13:11 < couf> superb 13:11 < quaid> or is that after THur? 13:12 < EvilBob> after thursday 13:12 < EvilBob> I have not had a chance to look at that yet 13:12 < quaid> ok; can you make sure poelcat sees that info? presumably emailing the list should do it 13:12 < EvilBob> Yup 13:13 < quaid> ok; other IG stuffs? 13:13 < EvilBob> nope 13:14 -!- chased [n=themis(a)athedsl-341053.home.otenet.gr] has joined #fedora-meeting 13:14 < quaid> ok 13:14 < quaid> relnotes one-sheet for Fedora 9 Alpha 13:14 < quaid> went out today 13:15 < quaid> kudos to mether and jonrob for teaming up to get that one together; I had a few edits this morning 13:15 < couf> ++ 13:15 < quaid> although the wiki is having problems over the last few hours, it sounds as if it is not because of overt hammering of that page 13:15 < quaid> however, we need to include a ~12 hour ahead step next time to convert to a static page and link everywhere to there 13:16 < quaid> else? 13:16 < poelcat> what do I need to see? 13:16 < EvilBob> poelcat: our schedule for the install guide 13:17 < couf> DUG and AG are quite silent atm, but trying to get up to speed with everything right now 13:17 < EvilBob> poelcat: I will email you once I have a chance to look at the calendar 13:17 < poelcat> EvilBob: gotcha 13:17 < couf> got some more time on hands now, so it could be ready pretty quick 13:20 < EvilBob> next? 13:20 < quaid> couf: sorry if I got lost in this; are many of the wiki pages ready for "final before conversion" edits? 13:20 < quaid> As for the Software Management Guide (SMG): 13:20 < quaid> 1. Sparks has asked for input on list; gotten any from anywhere? 13:21 < quaid> 2. I was looking at how to change the bugzilla component but haven't gotten it figured yet 13:22 * quaid looks at that #2 whilst 1 is discussed 13:22 < couf> quaid: from what I've seen, it still needs some work, but it's almost at that point 13:22 < couf> some pages are pre-conv edit ready 13:22 < quaid> and are marked, right? 13:22 < couf> yep 13:23 < quaid> we can put out some pressure to edit; I'd like more people watching so e.g. Paul and I are passing along skills and tips 13:23 < couf> I'll send a list to the list 13:23 < quaid> cool 13:23 < quaid> that's a good idea; we can divide and conquer a bit more that way 13:24 < couf> yep 13:25 < quaid> ok, I'll work on the smg bz component separately 13:25 < quaid> it does bring up one point, we could use more makefile, scripting, tooling, and CVS admin expertise 13:25 < quaid> ok, and Crypto Guide ... 13:26 < quaid> Sparks: did you update that one for the new Anaconda features? 13:28 < quaid> ok ... 13:28 < quaid> we'll get updates on list for those 13:28 -!- quaid changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: FDSCo -- AOB 13:29 < quaid> I don't think we can chat about meeting times, and we have to plead "transition time" for not being able to handle the FDSCo chair elections 13:29 < EvilBob> Leadership 13:29 < quaid> (also, a lack of enough people) 13:29 < quaid> yeah, that stuff 13:29 < EvilBob> yup 13:29 < couf> we really need to get that sorted out 13:30 < EvilBob> OK next week new time or same time? 13:30 < couf> I know this time really isn't good for jmbuser, the rest is fine iirc 13:30 < EvilBob> do we want to take the meeting time issue to the list and decide there? 13:30 -!- vnk_fd [n=v-n-k(a)60-234-169-11.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #fedora-meeting 13:31 < quaid> couf: problem is ... we don' 13:31 < quaid> t know what time is good for jmbuser 13:32 * EvilBob avoids saying "send the question to the list as spam so he will see it" 13:32 < couf> right, so we should get him to fill in the table, he's back in middle east right? 13:32 < couf> EvilBob: don't get me started 13:32 < EvilBob> I am so Evil... 13:33 -!- loupgaroublond [n=yankee(a)pool-71-182-187-11.pitbpa.east.verizon.net] has joined #fedora-meeting 13:34 < quaid> but so far I don't see a time that is good for everyone 13:34 < quaid> maybe stickster_afk can redo his part now 13:35 < couf> so can we settle this by next week on-list? 13:36 -!- loupgaroublond [n=yankee(a)pool-71-182-187-11.pitbpa.east.verizon.net] has quit [Client Quit] 13:37 -!- loupgaroublond [n=yankee(a)pool-71-182-187-11.pitbpa.east.verizon.net] has joined #fedora-meeting 13:38 < EvilBob> I think so 13:41 -!- tibbs [n=tibbs@fedora/tibbs] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 13:41 < EvilBob> </meeting>? 13:41 < couf> +1

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Meeting 2008-02-05
by Paul W. Frields 04 Feb '08

04 Feb '08

Hi guys, I'm in orientation this week and not sure what my schedule is going to be like at meeting time tomorrow. I'm *REALLY* sorry if I miss again (second week in a row!) and beg your forgiveness. :-) Rest assured my schedule will be much more compatible with whatever we want to do starting Wednesday. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug

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Translated WIKI: Fedora Overview
by Marcelo Martínez 04 Feb '08

04 Feb '08

Hello everyone! I think it is very important that this section be translated into other languages: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Overview I will talk with a friend who has a better English to translate the Spanish section. When I get the translated text will posted here. Regards, Marcelo .- --

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One Summary outline draft
by Karsten Wade 04 Feb '08

04 Feb '08

How does this outline look? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KarstenWade/Drafts/OneSummary ... in trying to be inclusive for all the parts of the Project. -- Karsten Wade, Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41

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Spam Mail and Fedora-docs subscribers
by John Babich 04 Feb '08

04 Feb '08

Fedora Infrastructure Team: For the past several weeks, the Fedora Docs list has been hit hard (at least 500+) with spam e-mails. They get rejected, but, I, as an owner of the list, am getting flooded with these rejected notices, making my job harder. I also notice an increase in unsubscribe notices, which may be unrelated. Can you please check this out and let me know if there is anything that can be done to tighten up the filters? I know there are at least 3 other list owners of Fedora-Docs-list who are being affected. Best Regards, John Babich Member, Fedora Docs Steering Committee (FDSCo)

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Fedora howtos ?
by Valent Turkovic 03 Feb '08

03 Feb '08

Hi, I am wondering where can I find official howtos for Fedora? if there are no official howtos are there any good other online resources? Cheers, Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic

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Features for F-9
by Marc Wiriadisastra 01 Feb '08

01 Feb '08

Hey all, Just listing some features which were are documented for F-9. It might be an idea to see what changes are going to take place specifically to update the docs. The other links are more for people to know what has been approved and will make it into Fedora. The install guide may need to be looked at. Cheers, Marc http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeatureEncryptedFilesystems http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/PreUpgrade http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Features/SecondStageInstallSource

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