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Fedora 9 GA release notes: new content add to PO files
by Murray McAllister 25 Apr '08

25 Apr '08

Hi, Since there was a slip, it was decided that new Wiki changes should be added to the PO files, for the opportunity of being translated for the Fedora 9 GA release notes (https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-docs-list/2008-April/msg00092.html) There have not been any major changes. The following is an overview of what has changed: ## Virtualization (Virtualization.xml) ## minor change: fully virtualized is two words, not one. ## Release Highlights (OverView.xml) ## minor change, took out a double-space (not sure if this affects translations :( ) ## Architecture Specific Notes (ArchSpecific.xml) ## very minor addition... ## Package Notes (PackageNotes.xml) ## - new sections added: * Sound Card Utility * pilot-link and HAL/PolicyKit Interaction ## Fedora Desktop (Desktop.xml) ## - minor content addition and corrections. ## File Systems (FileSystems.xml) ## - minor content addition and a "note" ## Java (Java.xml) ## very minor change ("open source" changed to "Free Software") ## System Services (SystemDaemons.xml) ## new content for NetworkManger ## Internationalization (I18n.xml) ## Language Support Installation - minor addition, "thai, and so on" - 23.2.2. Indic fonts, new bullet point, "The smc-fonts package has been added for Malayalam." - the QT immodules section has been removed --- The PO files are due at 2359 UTC, 2008-04-29. Thanks for all your help, apologies for any inconveniences this causes. Please do not hesitate to ask if you have any questions! Kind Regards, Murray. --------------------------------------------------------------------- pub 1024D/81B3FDEB 2007-09-19 [expires: 2008-09-18] Key fingerprint = 4ED9 9907 5BF0 4132 2B46 20D1 C0C6 362D 81B3 FDEB Murray McAllister (Fedora Docs Project / mdious) <murray.mcallister(a)gmail.com> sub 2048g/B04CFA0C 2007-09-19 [expires: 2008-09-18]

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Re: [relnotes] [Bug 443694] New: Missing hard disk space requirement in release notes
by Murray McAllister 24 Apr '08

24 Apr '08

On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 7:32 AM, <bugzilla(a)redhat.com> wrote: > Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional > comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. > > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=443694 > > Summary: Missing hard disk space requirement in release notes > Product: Fedora Documentation > Version: devel > Platform: All > URL: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release- > notes/f9preview/en_US/sn-ArchSpecific.html#sn- > ArchSpecific-x64-hw > OS/Version: Linux > Status: NEW > Severity: low > Priority: low > Component: release-notes > AssignedTo: relnotes(a)fedoraproject.org > ReportedBy: jjcogliati-r1(a)yahoo.com > QAContact: kwade(a)redhat.com > CC: jjcogliati-r1(a)yahoo.com > > > Description of problem: > At > http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f9preview/en_US/sn-ArchSpecific… > there is the text: > "The disk space requirements listed below" ... > But, there is no hard disk space requirements listed below. > > Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): > Version 8.92 (2008-03-17) > > How reproducible: > Very. Has been a problem since at least Fedora 7. > > Steps to Reproduce: > 1. Load up the release notes > 2. Look at the hardware requirements. > 3. Notice that there is no disk space given. > > Actual results: > No listing of amount of disk space required. > > Expected results: > Something on the order of 6 GB. > > Additional info: > It would be helpful if it gave disk space requirements for a minimal, and how > much extra space the Development option, the Office and Productivity option and > the Server option add. Is anyone going to add this, or is it fine as it is? Thanks, Murray. --------------------------------------------------------------------- pub 1024D/81B3FDEB 2007-09-19 [expires: 2008-09-18] Key fingerprint = 4ED9 9907 5BF0 4132 2B46 20D1 C0C6 362D 81B3 FDEB Murray McAllister (Fedora Docs Project / mdious) <murray.mcallister(a)gmail.com> sub 2048g/B04CFA0C 2007-09-19 [expires: 2008-09-18]

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Xen Dom0 support is not included in F9
by John Poelstra 24 Apr '08

24 Apr '08

I think we need to say something about (see below) here: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f9preview/en_US/sn-Virtualizati… John -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: F9 PreView Anaconda,XEN, Xorg Problems Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:38:02 -0400 From: Jon Stanley <jonstanley(a)gmail.com> Reply-To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases <fedora-test-list(a)redhat.com> To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases <fedora-test-list(a)redhat.com> References: <BAYC1-PASMTP10BF570DB4950DE379F1FEA8E60(a)CEZ.ICE> On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 10:32 AM, David M Burgess <davidburgess(a)sympatico.ca> wrote: > I've just finished installing the Preview Release on three different > hardware platforms. > > Big problems with them all. > > I'm installing on dual core 64 bit hardware" > > Lenovo T61p - dual core Intel > Asus A7N-M2 - AMD M2 > Sun Ultra20 M2 - AMD Opteron > > All the boxes have 2Gig of RAM and SATA drives, each box also has a > NVidia video card - different one in all three. > > When Anaconda gets to part where you configure the network cards eth0 > has no check mark but eth1 does and Anaconda is set to configure that by > default. A minor problem but still wrong. I'll check this out. > Far more seriously XEN refuses to boot on any of the three platforms I > even installed the 32 bit PR on the Asus box and had a similar reaction. Xen Dom0 support is not included, nor slated to be included, in F9. Folks that need Xen Dom0 are advised to stay with F8. For more information, see http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-xen/2008-March/msg00013.html > When I tried to update the base PR using > System->Administration->Add/Remove Software it took more than 40 minutes > to return and tell me that there were no updates nor any additional > software to install. So I installed yumex and it worked fine. Not sure, maybe some PackageKit guys can answer this one > The Anaconda and PackageKit problems are merely irritating, the XEN and > X are show stoppers for us. You didn't mention any X problems. -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list(a)redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list From - Thu

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to add or not ... relnotes
by Karsten Wade 24 Apr '08

24 Apr '08

We discussed adding the changes from the wiki to the release notes, given the extra timing for the release. Unfortunately, we also told L10n to go ahead and work with the POT/PO from _before_ any changes. Since we didn't do those changes and a week has passed ... * Do we want to do those changes? * What about branching for F9 *right now* with what we have? - We could make devel available for updates and new trans - If we reach parity with F9 for translation, we update the F9 branch from devel * Other ideas? - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41

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NOT the FDSCo irclog ...
by Karsten Wade 23 Apr '08

23 Apr '08

Below is NOT the log from today's meeting, is the log from the non-meeting. However, if no one new shows up at the scheduled time of 1900, we'll vote this log in as the log, and I'll repost, and the gods of process will be appeased. Note this one is 21 minutes long, a record length ... although mainly one guy, talking to himself. 11:08 < quaid> <meeting> 11:08 -!- quaid changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: FDSCo mtg - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/SteeringCommittee/Meetings#Agenda 11:08 < quaid> going to go through a quick rundown 11:08 < quaid> even though not sure anyone is here :) 11:09 * quaid waits exactly one minute to 18:10.20 11:09 -!- jsmith [n=jsmith(a)72.21.36.138] has joined #fedora-meeting 11:09 * jsmith is here... at least in theory 11:09 < quaid> word 11:09 < jsmith> I'm juggling projects at the moment 11:09 < quaid> a few more seconds 11:10 * quaid is a juggle 11:12 -!- J5_ [n=quintice@nat/redhat/x-e216423445de749b] has joined #fedora-meeting 11:13 * quaid back from network drop, sry 11:13 -!- quaid changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: FDSCo mtg - Installation Guide (IG) 11:14 < quaid> stickster has been doing some work on this 11:14 < quaid> all other work and EvilBob are MIA at this point 11:15 < quaid> going to send a request today to the list to get all hands on the IG and the UG from now 11:15 < quaid> anyone with anything else? 11:15 * quaid waits 30 seconds 11:15 < Southern_Gentlem> quaid i will get Evilbob on the IG this week 11:16 < quaid> Southern_Gentlem: thx; the concern is we don't know what was or was not done by his IG writing team 11:16 < quaid> so we're likely to duplicate or overcome that work 11:16 < quaid> which was, btw, why I argued for *all* that work to happen in regular irc, mailing list, and CVS 11:17 < quaid> but, good lord, yes, all hands are needed :) 11:17 * quaid prepares to move on topic-wise ... 11:17 -!- quaid changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: FDSCo mtg - Update on other active content work 11:18 < quaid> User Guide -- finishing for F9, keep momentum going 11:18 < quaid> UG -- F8 finish, has to be put behind IG work now 11:18 < quaid> SMG -- couf passed on the XML work, now we need to get that bad boy published 11:19 * quaid ponders if jsmith wants to learn that particular trivia 11:19 < quaid> Sec G - sparks has been working on it, post F9 draft target 11:19 < quaid> AG - post f9 release draft target 11:20 < quaid> release notes -- were going to do some updates from the wiki to the POT but none of us followed through, we need to decide quickly if we are going to mess with that or not 11:20 < jsmith> quaid: Yeah, couf told me he gave me an A+ on it... I'm still in shock 11:20 < quaid> -- above discussion on list? 11:20 < jsmith> Yeah, push it to the list 11:20 < quaid> jsmith: eh, if you know DocBook it's not hard of a task :) 11:20 < quaid> ok, any more on that ol' content what is active? 11:21 < jsmith> Not that I can think of... 11:21 < jsmith> What exactly is involved in publishing the SMG? It got branched for the PackageKit update, right? 11:22 < jsmith> Did the PackageKit updates ever get put into DocBook? 11:22 < Southern_Gentlem> define SMG please 11:23 < Southern_Gentlem> IG is install guide UG is User Guide 11:23 < jsmith> SGM is the Software Management Guide 11:23 < Southern_Gentlem> ty and AG is? 11:23 < quaid> Admin GUide 11:23 < jsmith> (formerly the yum-software-management guide) 11:23 < quaid> sry for TLA fever :) 11:24 < quaid> jsmith: most likely no on the PK changes 11:24 < quaid> jsmith: publishing is ... 11:24 * quaid gets URL 11:24 -!- LetoT1 [n=paul(a)bofh.xelerance.com] has joined #fedora-meeting 11:25 -!- JSchmitt [n=s4504kr@fedora/JSchmitt] has joined #fedora-meeting 11:25 < quaid> jsmith: anyway, I can show you after the meeting; that is, discuss it later out of the meeting :) 11:26 < jsmith> Fair enough 11:26 -!- quaid changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: FDSCo mtg -- AOB 11:26 < jsmith> I don't know what else to discuss without the other folks here 11:26 < quaid> in that we are almost done :) 11:26 -!- quaid changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: FDSCo mtg -- All Other Business (AOB) 11:26 < quaid> 'zactly 11:26 < quaid> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EditingFedoraRedhatCom 11:26 < quaid> that's the evil that we do to get published still 11:26 < quaid> it's actually a bit like the other websites 11:27 < quaid> we check in changes and tag them LIVE 11:27 -!- DanseMakabre [i=pat(a)bobo.ds5.agh.edu.pl] has joined #fedora-meeting 11:27 < quaid> it's all PHP includes to build the pages, with the rendering done and pushed as static HTML 11:27 -!- SmootherFrOgZ [n=Smoother(a)linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:28 < jsmith> Gotcha 11:28 < quaid> ok, with nothing more ... 11:28 * jsmith votes for ending the meeting 11:28 -!- mether_ [n=ask@nat/redhat-in/x-2972959aedb2ba42] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 11:28 < quaid> it is so 11:29 < quaid> 5 11:29 < Southern_Gentlem> +1 11:29 < quaid> 4 11:29 < quaid> 3 11:29 < quaid> 2 11:29 < quaid> 1 11:29 < quaid> </meeting> -- Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41

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FDSCo meeting (for real) 1900
by Karsten Wade 23 Apr '08

23 Apr '08

Well, that was exciting. Got time mixed up and accidentally had a "meeting" an hour early. We can try it again, this time with maybe more people showing up ... since it is on the scheduled time. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/SteeringCommittee/Meetings#Agenda Installation Guide -- all hands on deck! * Update on active content work: * Release notes for F9 * UG -- needs final touches and "wordsmithing" * Fedora 9 version * Fedora 8 version * SMG * Needs feedback on conversion from CVS to DocBook, as well as some "wordsmithing" * Security Guide -- F9 draft coming (rero) * AG -- moved to post F9 * All other business (AOB) -- Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41

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who was working on Installation Guide the last few months?
by Karsten Wade 22 Apr '08

22 Apr '08

Anyone know who was working with Bob Jensen on the IG the last few months? We're looking to see if there are any changes to incorporate into CVS before we repeat the work. If possible. :) thx - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41

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Release Notes
by Paul W. Frields 22 Apr '08

22 Apr '08

Does anyone have time to sync changes from the wiki (since our last pull) into CVS so that they can make it into the Fedora 9 final release? If we do it now, translators have almost a week still to translate the final changes. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug

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Outage Notification - 2008-05-03 14:00 UTC (fwd)
by Mike McGrath 22 Apr '08

22 Apr '08

Sorry everyone, the previous message had the wrong date. The correct date is: 2008-05-03 14:00 UTC ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:54:17 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike McGrath <mmcgrath(a)redhat.com> To: fedora-devel-announce(a)redhat.com Cc: fedora-infrastructure-list(a)redhat.com, fedora-docs-list(a)redhat.com, Fedora Art List <fedora-art-list(a)redhat.com>, For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base <fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com>, fedora-websites-list(a)redhat.com Subject: Outage Notification - 2008-05-03 14:00 UTC There will be an outage starting at 2008-05-03 14:00 UTC, which will last approximately 5 hours. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2008-05-03 14:00 UTC' Affected Services: Websites CVS / Source Control Buildsystem Database Mail All auth systems Unaffected Services: Torrent DNS fedorapeople.org planet Ticket Link: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/519 Reason for Outage: The network guys will be performing a number of upgrades during this outage window which is expected to last 5 hours. Systems will be up and down during this time. Some will be off during the duration of the time for safety / data protection. Some systems we'll be moving to alternate sites. Contact Information: Please join #fedora-admin in irc.freenode.net or respond to this email to track the status of this outage.

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Outage Notification - 2008-05-08 14:00 UTC
by Mike McGrath 22 Apr '08

22 Apr '08

There will be an outage starting at 2008-05-08 14:00 UTC, which will last approximately 5 hours. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2008-05-08 14:00 UTC' Affected Services: Websites CVS / Source Control Buildsystem Database Mail All auth systems Unaffected Services: Torrent DNS fedorapeople.org planet Ticket Link: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/519 Reason for Outage: The network guys will be performing a number of upgrades during this outage window which is expected to last 5 hours. Systems will be up and down during this time. Some will be off during the duration of the time for safety / data protection. Some systems we'll be moving to alternate sites. Contact Information: Please join #fedora-admin in irc.freenode.net or respond to this email to track the status of this outage.

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