docs May 2008

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Update wiki pages?
by Valent Turkovic 22 May '08

22 May '08

Hi, I see no update for Fedora 9 on these pages so I'm wondering why is that because it is confusing. If there should be content regarding Fedora 9 there why isn't it there? If these pages are obsolete should they be deleted? Here are the pages: http://spins.fedoraproject.org/ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CustomSpins Cheers, Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic

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toolchain rock-up
by Karsten Wade 22 May '08

22 May '08

We've been talking about rocking up our toolchain by integrating Publican[1]. We need to set up some tests to be able to confirm if the tool does what we need, technically, socially, and communally. Please add yours to the list below, then we can throw it in a wiki page to start working against. = Technical = * Does it fulfill all the current tool's capabilities? - These need to be defined and listed as specific tests * Is it built on sound technology with a future? * ... = Social = * Is there an active upstream? * Is upstream responsive to Fedora Docs? * Is the upstream work in the open? * Can anyone (theoretically) join the upstream work? * Is there a role Fedora Docs should take in the upstream? * ... = Communal = * Is there a Fedora packager? * Is it maintained for EPEL as well? * Do other parts of Fedora want to use this tool? * Is there value-add from Fedora Docs to make it worth promoting the integrated set (Fedora Docs + Publican)? * Does Fedora Docs want to create and maintain a "Content Producer Spin"? * ... -- Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41

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Docs toolchain meeting(s) start this Fri 0100 UTC
by Karsten Wade 22 May '08

22 May '08

We discussed previously[1] meeting with various interested parties about the current and future Fedora Docs toolchain. From the previous discussion, our initial meeting is: #fedora-docs on irc.freenode.net Friday 23 May 0100 UTC 11:00 Brisbane Thursday 22 May 9:00pm US/Eastern 6:00pm US/Pacific This time best accommodates the two centers of toolchain activity currently, the continental US and APAC, in particular Brisbane, AU. We can plan on having a weekly meeting until we feel it needs to stop. These meetings are a good chance for Publican upstream, Fedora Docs toolchain upstream, and Fedora L10n to work on integration issues. Topics: 0. F10 toolchain goals? 1. Fix lingering problems - Problems in the existing toolchain - List and define - What is fixed by ripping and replacing with Publican? - Is there any advantage to leaving the passivetex chain? 2. Make enhancements for usability - Related to the toolchain overall 3. Integrate publican - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-docs-list/2008-May/msg00042.html - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-docs-list/2008-May/msg00077.html 4. Make sure any changes integrate well with L10N Toolchain - DamnedLies, Transifex, and ? 5. Others? thanks - Karsten [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-docs-list/2008-April/msg00010.html -- Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41

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Self-Introduction: Balaji
by "G" 22 May '08

22 May '08

Hi everyone My name is Balaji and i live in chennai which is a city in India. i am a software developer working for a private firm in chennai. I ve been contribtuting to fedora as a member of the bug-triage team, Testing packages from the bodhi repository and also as one of the Fedora-Ambassadors for chennai. I ve not yet got an opportunity to work on the docs section in an other project till date, though i ve submitted a how-to to Fedora unity when i was just an user of the fedora :).This is the How-To which i had written some months back.( http://fedorasolved.org/installation-solutions/UML-Linux-Install ).Now that i ve become part of the contributors team i would like to extend my contributions to the fedora-docs community by writing/editing/reviewing the documents and give suggestions and help in all ways i possibly could. I am also looking at areas where Fedora could provide more documents to the users/developers too. I am excited to be part of this journey and this team and really look forward to working with this team. PS: I am sorry Karsten. I had applied for the CVS docs account few days back and then couldnt complete the required formalities. Cheers, Balaji

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Re: F10?
by Eric Christensen 21 May '08

21 May '08

I just updated the SIG list. All the SIGs that I could find are now on the list. Eric > >On Tue, 2008-05-20 at 21:04 +0000, Paul W. Frields wrote: > >> All you need to do to be counted is to show up at #fedora-admin (and/or >> fedora-infrastructure-list) and let people know you're interested. If >> you stay in touch with Murray, also on this list, you guys can team up >> for extra superpower! ;-) > >OTOH, we do need to track what we are doing in this regard: > >http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/Tasks/SIGSupport > >But ... there is a mix of what are SIGs and what are subprojects. We'll >have to sort this out over time. > >- Karsten >-- >Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. >Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com >Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org >gpg key : AD0E0C41 > >-- >fedora-docs-list mailing list >fedora-docs-list(a)redhat.com >To unsubscribe: >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-docs-list

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Re: F10?
by Paul W. Frields 21 May '08

21 May '08

On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 23:44 -0400, Ricky Zhou wrote: > On 2008-05-19 10:27:52 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: > > All in all I feel it was a good release. So my question to the team, what > > would you all like to see over the next 6 months? > * New wiki :-) > * More/better documentation ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This is where Jef Spaleta's role-based SIG idea, and the Docs team's new direction, might be helpful. If we can get one or more people from Docs hooked up with this team to help, all the work can/should be done on the wiki. Mike and I have talked in the past about the fact that Fedora has a world-class infrastructure and the team to support it. If we can get the details down on "paper," we add substantially to the proposition that Fedora is much more than just a distro. We can have a blueprint for any similar project, or open-source business startup, or anyone who wants to bootstrap their own community, to go from zero to sixty in terms of supporting that community with the tools they need for communication, coding, and presence. Certainly that could take more than six months, but it's a great time to get that off the ground. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug

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Fedora 9 release notes schedule
by Murray McAllister 21 May '08

21 May '08

Hi, I updated https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/Schedule/9 to reflect weekend's activities. I do not know when " XY May 2008 fedora-release-notes package RC to Fedora release engineering" is, and someone already added " 30 May 2008 fedora-release-notes package update ". What is the latter? All PO files have been updated for BZ 447193, and I'm fairly confident I didn't break any of them... Thanks, Murray. --------------------------------------------------------------------- pub 1024D/81B3FDEB 2007-09-19 [expires: 2008-09-18] Key fingerprint = 4ED9 9907 5BF0 4132 2B46 20D1 C0C6 362D 81B3 FDEB Murray McAllister (Fedora Docs Project / mdious) <murray.mcallister(a)gmail.com> sub 2048g/B04CFA0C 2007-09-19 [expires: 2008-09-18]

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New Member: Andres Villarreal, an MEE from Rice University and a self instructed "expert" in Linux
by Andres Villarreal 20 May '08

20 May '08

** My submission: * Full legal name : Andres Villarreal * City, Country: Bogotá, Colombia * Computer Scientist and MEE in Computer Engineering * Independent consultant for various small and mid size companies * Your goals in the Fedora Project o I am interested in helping people like me in the first steps of making things work. o I have suffered enough with the howto pages that are anywhere from great to abysmal and from up to date to obsolete, and I think Fedora is the right place to put my experience to use. o I am also interested in maintaining packages, but want to start here. * Historical qualifications o As a self-taught Linux enthusiast I think I can see where the documentation is just a little bit short of being correct and useful, so I think my lack of a list of courses is a good thing. o I am a skilled programmer in several languages and an expert in networking. o And, I have better than average English skills. * GPG KEYID and fingerprint o pub 1024D/F6C81882 2008-05-20 Key fingerprint = 6D90 EC88 7422 A029 01E6 D790 9A44 0143 F6C8 1882 uid Andres Villarreal <andres(a)villarrealpouw.name> sub 2048g/BA1AF386 2008-05-20 So, please tell me if my submission has any problems and I hope we will do some good together. Andres Villarreal.

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open account requests
by Karsten Wade 20 May '08

20 May '08

We're seeing more people joining Fedora and requesting to join various subprojects and SIGs. I suspect the ease of FAS2 combined with the fresh hoopla around the release has attracted people. Let's not disappoint them by leaving their request for a group in limbo. Yet ... Some people seem to be requesting group access without first knowing what a group is or what they need to do, such as send a self-intro. My suggestion is to reject those after giving them sufficient time to do the self-intro etc. We definitely do not want to sponsor people just because they checked a box and clicked Submit. Save your sponsorship for people who really mean to be there. Also, I'm putting in an RFE for the account system to add a "reason" field with the rejection process[1], so we can explain why someone was rejected, such as not following the established process at ProjectName/Join. Meanwhile, it is probably a good practice to send an email to the person telling them they can re-apply after they follow the per-SIG/subproject steps for account access. - Karsten (I am sending this duplicate email to multiple locations that need to resolve this process.) [1] https://fedorahosted.org/fas/ticket/50 -- Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41

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Persistent overlay?
by Rahul Sundaram 19 May '08

19 May '08

Hi, I suggested to Luke to use something better than "persistent overlay" to describe the amount of space alloted for storing software changes and settings in a Live USB. http://lewk.org/blog/liveusb-creator-2.4.html I am not really sure what term to use as a replacement. Any suggestions dear word smiths? Rahul

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