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Fedora 14 Schedule
by John J. McDonough 24 Jul '10

24 Jul '10

One of my tasks has been to review the schedule. Of course, we all should be looking at it. I've been struggling some to make sense of it. There are a couple of issues, but even a few issues can make it very confusing. You should all be aware that John has posted the schedule at http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-14/ If you look at f-14-docs-tasks.html it can be very confusing since release notes, announcements and guides tasks are all mixed together. The report, f-14-docs-tree-tasks.html is a lot easier to digest. Until you have your head around that one, the docs combined with translation and releng are totally confusing, so look at the tree tasks first. It is a pity that you don't seem to be able to get a Gantt chart out of taskjuggler, but if you download the two files from John's "source" directory (f-14.tjp and reports.tji) and open them up in taskjuggler, you can see the dependencies in the source. To do that: 1) Select the tasks tab on the left 2) Highlight the task you wish to examine (note that in general the tasks are folded into higher level tasks) 3) The task will be highlighted in the source on the right, and if there is a dependency, it will say "depends" on the right under the highlighted task name It still isn't super-simple since Docs is only a tiny part of the whole release, and of the hundreds of "external to docs" tasks, there are perhaps a dozen that actually matter to us directly, and they don't always show up within the folded group (e.g. Beta Release Notes), so it isn't always obvious why a particular task has to happen on a particular day without a fair amount of digging. Rudi and I will be getting updates to John, so if you notice anything that seems out of place please let us know. Thanks, --McD

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BZ tickets going to docs list
by Eric Christensen 24 Jul '10

24 Jul '10

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I wonder if it would be helpful to have all new BZ tickets get an automatic CC to the docs list so that everyone would know what was going on and what needed work. With our new procedure for working tickets[0] anyone should be able to provide a patch to fix a ticket. Also, anyone should be able to test the patches and do the QA. Thoughts? - --Eric -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJMSzxWAAoJEDbiLlqcYamxGnUP/1nlSvDQhO4iQC8e5qP4AuC0 hqZ3B9oZ4h00pVQSIy5gHGuX+cnkSbkPiqqr/CjX8K6b5Bvm+X5+g9XSrOKljcXL DNmxoSU+FWeuS0lRzqUQ0o3hxcGdKGrvXgg+Xko5XdvK07QpsITgXRzUnz8kHHBf lYCJtuRXBqUu7WfAyIL9jPO7K8SveaCJSk6Ew6VElxxa8cpwNnwmDMApphjQkkk6 8p2nGOe79fvdO6Zw4GylqD48Pzs/Kro+aYeMIjZhJa/ULH3hoeOyLCbSNsOJdpUL avyeRXoMkIkgxabb/hNlz7bLueb7Se+JUQ8HTXl5FM5ZgCMxNCJZfbumkgQUPzVS Ax0T/AOF1ob2TF40DCbl2J+w1reRWyTQ+qn9ko/FmwTRsmy5xnR/+7Sqfh1t47eI ZT+A06OIFYlo+ikjj4p1kRP/udHyCFUs/rMgqKO6eohZo2Ep9n1y8W8smouKKxbz PEcHGB/H7QfILNOkpOzQzCForBHVrbP4KGQkB9QcQR0p86fu1wDmfP4PWix+sFda zvZWdZIzyerYHHs+Eyh8r0pUfH6FZZv7gzHURkD88YjN2sgJgWDxnNtlWr7jNRuJ 4/smaKCSLo6C8uvB4VnF37qvsJAbk/OQWfUgRYxJvkRYdsqaKQpBB4k8MEnoUo2v /iTWaK8QyVtUCqcJjH/3 =S+Y4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Printing chapter for the User Guide
by Ben Cotton 22 Jul '10

22 Jul '10

Hey gang, I just committed the first draft of the printing chapter for the User Guide that I volunteered to write a while back. It's not quite as complete as I'd like (e.g. instructions for KDE and Xfce are missing entirely), but I wanted to get *something* in place since I'll be on vacation the next 9 days. I can't promise that the style and markup are perfect either, but it's there-ish for the rest of the group to make edits to. When I get back from vacation and caught up on $dayjob, I'll try to get the KDE and Xfce parts added if someone hasn't beaten me to the punch. This is the first new work I've done for Docs, so I'd appreciate feedback. Thanks! BC -- Ben Cotton

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Wiki syntax
by Michael Price 22 Jul '10

22 Jul '10

Do you have to make all the names of Applications listed bold or does it really matter?

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Introduction
by Michael Price 22 Jul '10

22 Jul '10

My name is Michael Price. I am very computer literate and have a little bit of experience with DocBook and MoinMoin so learning Mediawiki shouldn't be that hard for me. I am more than willing to help where help is needed whether it's editing the wiki or a guide or even helping to write parts of a guide. pub 2048R/1D8858CF 2010-07-21 Key fingerprint = 3DBF EE21 00C4 367F 2E16 6B55 CDD8 464A 1D88 58CF uid Michael Price <michaelprice04(a)gmail.com> sub 2048R/160CBFCB 2010-07-21

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Meeting summary for 21 July 2010
by Eric Christensen 21 Jul '10

21 Jul '10

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Re: Search Engine on start.fedoraproject.org
by Eric Christensen 21 Jul '10

21 Jul '10

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/21/2010 03:33 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: > It's been pointed out to me that start.fedoraproject.org is in violation > of Infrastructure's free software policy: > > http://infrastructure.fedoraproject.org/csi/free-software-policy/en-US/html… > > In particular the "Proprietary Dependence" clause. Now, start.fp.o has > existed long before the policy was put in place and a grandfather > exception does exist.... but I thought I'd mention it. This could be an > opportunity to completely re-think the start.fedoraproject.org home page. > I know that upon its design there was some major things in the works but > AFAIK most if not all of them fell through and that search engine link was > all that was left. > > Thoughts, comments? > > -Mike "Sorry but the free road is a hard one sometimes" McGrath This also affects the search feature on docs.fp.o. So if anyone has any suggestions for searching documents then I'm ears. - --Eric -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJMR3iGAAoJEDbiLlqcYamxn6YP/AxlfGSSoQVWJ19iuGautjVP DB30BhKOvTfrIb5e/CZmdlVn0R4vkfqY7Jo07VxNMoYU4E6ZDbotIoVj3EqQb6DX OQEqNZ5DIqWfewW3pd8kUnp5AG6T2MoQRc6PpgKtk6BpByG6bSIEuObLXIUu0/ob z1XSz8HFW9M2ODIGdauNaN5bU6woVswqxGYnvUwEws0P300GhNPECsR6N3za25zs e6s1rLGADaOvqRSK5s0dblruVs+jgwfNsyYVtazpw7bRpSA7U24kaLPCkta3cgIs 8PrrqJYDIHuZ4K8ZEUfW8nIDTZDhQHOn4eJy/u9HmuAzrl/0An5fqL6+QDxU3ybJ VNZmTA4NMMN2L2/mV6UU2FGQDeYZ5QgW6z9u5lZWjFWBNpGz8D4cwYGdhOZKCLSp TRz9ihW92VOwHQ/zQBd6o0foPR8C91yS24DHzdoDC9tG1YyI/Vs/Lat+R8h4Wcmf kL3UA+sV91bunSGdyj6zH/Beb5/xekl2M7DpirVjHNcaLcw3fOu2RUJrHYNzrdVD aYIB5THK9+lhWN8eGEIg1QlwjMb/9F9ccFqodUD6oNQoIp9nCh7WLTXsERvCUZ5d z8YNrmMf9auGmLBt9dYeuY7IhZWTX+XhfpAWcbanYSOXcydi1cMmhdikWk6B22sC sqDNVXXVl/WaN7/jS/wF =hA9o -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Fedora Docs Meeting Reminder
by Eric Christensen 21 Jul '10

21 Jul '10

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 REMINDER: There will be a Fedora Docs Meeting today at 2300 UTC. The agenda can be found at: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJMRvpNAAoJEDbiLlqcYamxYkoP/0XsjuUDyPJoLVO+8zI2tA36 ox0Awk75Fr+hZfAZDe32HGzNX+BOAwsshEtOJqeWvP0QgQBYWaEMvCsGtPaA2q7A i3f8NT9dL96w9VnaRGTJuyu2E6opJtzJQF9yoitUUoDPq2aT8lCtN+K14Env4/sN k2IPPNXtSLd05QR0AGronBGVrug5T83sY4qihmCtZqrKTZ6KlNopDVvk5gwL8ybg nFbJQtP4qwcynDn3Vs/vbwv3TFEWP8mz+GqeCbiP7yRTDzcWrtIl4JBAtL6eLZ/d OUitTueMK1C2n0BxwBe/2ebEXK/aEs0ZeYDb7S0sZyk8ddkQc3mjJCyNkQuxynFs i7tHcwqn3a9pMMCvgn8DnyWcP1BDeKQ+u35CDT8x4d+B8U0BUnJsAw/N2J/x/ETk 7oUNdQw98m54O7zfVjC2irTs+WtC7Nz9CoWYZ6idlNgRIDXe6FPnxj7ORtCqvgyn XO33mEUF5peXsLI2OM3xFm3vX9+gGPEylYtIoKvevoYFINFC7dzuDBorFmfKRxj2 So663rRY5ndmrUJpNyMPaj7oL5e5TW1nX9aUwk0IB/RujjZ32r3n9EMJ/Qj8HHDe +kKTvUugPatMhzw0sVOF0fv48gJ7XC5EJf1eDwYKUGR0c4iPuDyuNi9f9sXmQJqZ n8GuxwZPXQ/MqksQD7HS =UgXz -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Fedora 14 Schedule Reminder
by John Poelstra 19 Jul '10

19 Jul '10

Start End Name Tue 27-Jul Mon 02-Aug Validate Former Beat Writers Mon 02-Aug Mon 09-Aug Recruit New Beat Writers Tue 03-Aug Tue 03-Aug Notify Development About Alpha Release Notes Have you found something that is working really well in your schedule? Or maybe you've found something you believe would work better in the future? Update the schedule retrospective page now to capture all of the important details as they happen: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_14_Schedule_Retrospective

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Meeting Summary for 14 July 2010
by Eric Christensen 15 Jul '10

15 Jul '10

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