docs August 2010

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Re: Docs Workflow
by Christopher Antila 27 Aug '10

27 Aug '10

Hello: Like much of the Fedora wiki, this page is most useful if you already know what's on it. I tried looking here when I was preparing my proposal for Summer Coding, and it didn't help at all. Now that I jumped in at the deep end, I recognize that there is a lot of important information on this page. How about... --> renaming sections like "If you're working on a Guide," or "How to Prepare Release Notes"? Help readers find what they need. --> adding an explanatory section describing things like "git" and "docs-writers" once? This isn't bad on the current page, but it could be more clear where the definitions are, and there could be more of them that are not simply links elsewhere. --> describing each process visually and textually? I like the commonality between the images, but not everybody is a visual learner, and we should take every opportunity to use both graphics and text. I would have jumped in myself, but you requested feedback be posted to the list. Christopher. On 08/27/2010 08:00 AM, docs-request(a)lists.fedoraproject.org wrote: > Subject: Docs Workflow > From: "John J. McDonough" <wb8rcr(a)arrl.net> > Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 08:50:37 -0400 > To: docs(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > > I've gotten back to working on the workflow page. My initial focus is > on getting resources for new beat writers. My approach here is to label > the various arrows on the diagrams, and then link to other pages with > additional input. There are a lot of resources out there, but newer > contributors don't know where they are, and more experienced > contributors forget about them. Hopefully we can ultimately provide a > useful index to the various resources. > > ** NEWER CONTRIBUTORS ** > > We are just getting started with this, so it will be easy for you to > influence the direction we take here. Please head over to > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_workflow > > follow some of the links (right now the beat writing is in flux, so help > there would be especially welcome). Consider whether this is helpful > and post your comments to this list. > > ** EXPERIENCED CONTRIBUTORS ** > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_Style_Guide looks like it > hasn't been touched in over a year. You might consider whether this > needs some tweaking. > > Also, I will be focusing on the release notes section of the workflow > initially. If you can contribute to the Guides, Announcements or > Permissions sections, please dive in! > > --McD

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Re: Orphaned package: system-config-display
by Rahul Sundaram 26 Aug '10

26 Aug '10

On 08/26/2010 01:22 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: > I don't have time for it, and I think it's fundamentally misguided. If > someone else feels like owning it, go wild. > > This will probably also require access to the upstream repo, so, do > speak up if you take it so we can sort that out. Assuming noone picks it up, we will have to document this in the release notes. Can you give a brief explanation on why you believe it is misguided for the sake of documentation? Rahul

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Docs Meeting 2010-08-25 Summary
by Eric Christensen 26 Aug '10

26 Aug '10

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Docs Workflow
by John J. McDonough 26 Aug '10

26 Aug '10

I've gotten back to working on the workflow page. My initial focus is on getting resources for new beat writers. My approach here is to label the various arrows on the diagrams, and then link to other pages with additional input. There are a lot of resources out there, but newer contributors don't know where they are, and more experienced contributors forget about them. Hopefully we can ultimately provide a useful index to the various resources. ** NEWER CONTRIBUTORS ** We are just getting started with this, so it will be easy for you to influence the direction we take here. Please head over to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_workflow follow some of the links (right now the beat writing is in flux, so help there would be especially welcome). Consider whether this is helpful and post your comments to this list. ** EXPERIENCED CONTRIBUTORS ** https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_Style_Guide looks like it hasn't been touched in over a year. You might consider whether this needs some tweaking. Also, I will be focusing on the release notes section of the workflow initially. If you can contribute to the Guides, Announcements or Permissions sections, please dive in! --McD

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F14 Alpha download page
by Nathan Thomas 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

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Fedora Docs Meeting Reminder
by Eric Christensen 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 REMINDER: There will be a Fedora Docs Meeting today at 2300 UTC. The agenda can be found at: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJMdYxoAAoJEDbiLlqcYamx/TMP/1TJZNTYIlviNKdvC+TiisV3 4FM8ytrgwVCy+GMzz+Dcv7YN0FhPULZRzMDdwB5FnKU7+oSSYtyXn11yFF9ymcWK QDBdJFWAblxM8cXXLgd7eKwZ+ucY2LghratlWIOViheNlEppQIyz1np12EV3uGRs Gqi9schixyNmdmzgC5vCFtb0Z3Tk+jppDZ0XOLW5LjZdJ8aUrZl2fhC8sZGqOhF8 fxvwFi18HrA0DKkVoIqTz9BYnbZWsDTL/FldZLiAn0gVotXDujhi1sbZdUsCZoJn kEEHKEkFFUALv9yUpxLofWecK1q5XKzMbVV7C3DJHFxx06xjRfo/3EWgtGN1gj0Z GcBaI2BK8tEsfkg/v6JalrlBb5O4wVz2VtcqVUjUrjYDcwesuWcENmEISkX1AoSC GkP2Cpk888ML6WC8xb01WVo7LzU5t0oPYZ4fzZd32Oqg6Y35ai9qIv1YJQRVHkeT AlgLd43RLL3U3ykCH2mcWgEdvuFDm72kXlzSafrOistO5/yxiu++yXcUhAzxSDxG REGfZsmvGE+w5GQWFawKsCuLThaxXNIOdxY0eH8k+4DsZE4wt0QIpsK5KP9gl0jg UFapXcIjWr8dMeIq/S+J62NMULJX+cTJjGMAuNL0FTDs4dQa83PR7xrVbG9xJsp2 WdfOAeS+SLKOoL603Hzq =3wlL -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Where to document alpha issue with Games Spin?
by Bruno Wolff III 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

The Games builds have been blocked by various dependency issues since the end of July. Unfortunately the last successful build has the splash screen bug making the ISO useless. nautilus-sendto may take a bit to get fixed, so it could easily be another week before the Games Spin successfully builds. (The other spins in the nightly composes area have built relatively recently and the ISOs should be useful for alpha testing.) We weren't sure where this should be documented. We don't want people wasting time and bandwidth trying to test the July ISO.

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accessibiliy-guide draft
by Gerard Ryan 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi folks! I won't be able to attend the meetings for the next couple of weeks, and I won't be online much at all for the next 1-2 weeks at all. I know there is an action item with my name on it, so I don't want to leave you guys in the dark! I built a draft of the accessibility guide, here: http://galileo.fedorapeople.org/accessibility-guide/en-US/html/ I sent the details to frostbite, and asked him to have a look over the screen readers part if he could, and let us know where we are falling down there. Unfortunately I haven't heard from him (I hope I sent it to the correct address (j.nadeau(a)charter.net - from FAS page for user frostbite). He doesn't seem to be in the docs group on FAS either, so I'm not sure if he will see this (if you see this frostbite, I would love to hear from you!). Also, If anybody else would like to have a read through any part of it, I would be grateful. I'm not sure if the section on the Sugar Platform should be there or not, since it doesn't really mention any accessibility functions for people with a disability. If anyone has any comments on that, I would love to hear you! I haven't submitted anything to git, since I don't have a lot of experience with that, but I will wait a few days to see if anyone has any comments/suggestions, then when I have some time to come onto IRC, I will see if there are any git wizards around to help me out with that! Gerard. PS: also, my new PGP key fingerprint is AA11 A666 C98E B6D8 231C 11ED 6EDC 7E4A 62BC 4A15 Gerard|galileo|Gearoid. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJMdSIQAAoJEG7cfkpivEoVI6QP/3I5Li6EnfBTIbJvDuT9CTM7 tGKZsLbklyCjtcLSguerdJGuliKes5ZGefsmlN+x0CO3X4g23ObZU/c0X3OAaM3B ob6ug8/MIgFxhghQArwwagpStv0g1tOvfvNbko6BzxYwvc6xMS4bVfUBxEak7qy/ dKlkUj5TdOZrRjchJzRM7oOSYkvD57iM8Pg1aFBHCfdBN4LU7UyQ//7AcsT7pFX3 WAbzrtEToCitlqRRoDQ0xoSOtKFdMKKuoo2uOhY+xVEfpSmyV3fE/juLQHAbik11 utjzu8/f1DfRrkFo0IUT9DhQyz1wCOUqDpKVh84dz1oNGqeVUpNYkwZLCBloYjIe tMqkADgZP5Jh898U37OXZ2cWpycZ+IkpNa3rguzRxb6v/ghWqykUIo+51fJUnrqk WKO/XglnlnJ0mEjfUqrbYg2klLFaHBxHwsC+lwVQYK1q4DNwJ2trIa7wGXsvIVwj zOO+EcAmgmU7j//MG+arudDgJ3cmbvNme+/k4h8+l2eZROlw+2QWv6VQljh7NbPo 3rKbFEfPY924Ek5SElw6X0x4vnDosHyx+oiWWsTprybl66v8ivvL7DEYwKDh8bps GaffxCmlXOK/DkLvlJasEgFaYSkBQCnBZU4/VeG03BeE61W5UD0uQ/ekhEyIurxA pIDt3/p70OqxGyXoJxkE =an7+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Upcoming Fedora 14 Tasks
by John Poelstra 21 Aug '10

21 Aug '10

Start End Name Mon 23-Aug Mon 23-Aug Post Alpha Release Notes One-Page Tue 24-Aug Tue 24-Aug Alpha Public Availability Tue 24-Aug Wed 01-Sep Write Unclaimed Wiki Beats Tue 24-Aug Tue 07-Sep Test master branches of guides against Alpha and correct Wed 01-Sep Wed 01-Sep Remind Translation: Beta Rel Notes POT Coming Thu 02-Sep Thu 02-Sep Start nightly POT files all fed-rel-notes.rpm content Thu 02-Sep Thu 02-Sep Remind announce-list & f-devel-announce: Wiki Freeze Thu 02-Sep Tue 07-Sep Port Wiki to Publican Thu 02-Sep Tue 21-Sep Generate nightly POT files all fed-rel-notes.rpm content Fri 03-Sep Fri 03-Sep Reminder to Trans that new POT files are coming for all guides Mon 06-Sep Mon 06-Sep Wiki Freeze: Beta Release Notes Mon 06-Sep Mon 13-Sep Ongoing build translation review htmls Tue 07-Sep Tue 07-Sep Branch Guides Tue 07-Sep Tue 07-Sep Publish draft guides Tue 07-Sep Tue 07-Sep Create POT files for All Guides Tue 07-Sep Tue 07-Sep Notify announce-list and f-devel-list draft guides available Tue 07-Sep Tue 07-Sep Notify trans that new Guide POT files available Tue 07-Sep Tue 07-Sep Translate All Guides (POT to PO)

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Docs meeting summary for 18 Aug 2010
by John J. McDonough 18 Aug '10

18 Aug '10

Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-08-18/fedora-meeting.2… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-08-18/fedora-meeting.2… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-08-18/fedora-meeting.2… --

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