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a question about GPT disk labels in Release Notes
by Domingo Becker 05 Oct '11

05 Oct '11

Just a curiosity about the new GPT disk labels in Fedora 16 as stated in section 2.2.2. GPT Disk Labels. I normally install Fedora with custom layout in the partition tables. Section 2.2.2 says that I have to create a small partition but it doesn't say which format it should be. Are there any more references about this? kind regards Domingo Becker

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[Bug 734422] New: New Bugzilla component for Fedora Packager's Guide
by Red Hat Bugzilla 05 Oct '11

05 Oct '11

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: New Bugzilla component for Fedora Packager's Guide https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=734422 Summary: New Bugzilla component for Fedora Packager's Guide Product: Fedora Documentation Version: devel Platform: Unspecified OS/Version: Unspecified Status: NEW Severity: unspecified Priority: unspecified Component: docs-requests AssignedTo: nobody(a)fedoraproject.org ReportedBy: pkovar(a)redhat.com QAContact: docs(a)lists.fedoraproject.org CC: stickster(a)gmail.com, kwade(a)redhat.com, eric(a)christensenplace.us, oglesbyzm(a)gmail.com Classification: Fedora Story Points: --- Type: --- Please create a new Bugzilla component for the Fedora Packager's Guide (packagers-guide). The Trac instance: https://fedorahosted.org/packagers-guide/ The Git repo: http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=docs/packagers-guide.git -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the QA contact for the bug.

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Fw: [Don't translate them!] Fedora Release Notes / Legal
by Valentin Laskov 05 Oct '11

05 Oct '11

wfd to docs again | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Valentin Laskov" <laskov(a)festa.bg> | To: "Fedora Translation Project List" <trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> | Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 10:01 AM | Subject: Re: [Don't translate them!] Fedora Release Notes / Legal | | || ----- Original Message ----- || From: "Dimitris Glezos" <glezos(a)indifex.com> ||| > On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Eric H. Christensen ||| ><sparks(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote: ||| > Do not translate Legal.xml. Everything else should be okay. ||| ||| Is it possible to exclude this file from your PO files? This is the ||| most efficient way to tell translators not to translate something. ||| ||| You can also setup your Tx client to not push this file to Tx at all. ||| || 1. Because there is no word "legal" in Bulgarian and if we want to be clear what is this, I wold like to translate (at least) the title as "Правна информация" - "Legal Information". I will not be able to do it, if this chapter is missing in TX 2. If the text is available for translating, there could be one sentence in it (e.g.): "In case of doubt or dispute shall be taken to the English." or "In the event of any inconsistency between the translated text and the original English text, the English text shall prevail." - the second is from "ICQ End User License Agreement" Regards laskov

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CC BY-SA attribution for Fedora docs
by Richard Fontana 03 Oct '11

03 Oct '11

Hi, The standard license for Fedora documentation today is CC BY-SA 3.0 Unported (with a waiver of its ill-drafted moral rights clause). The "BY" part of the license shorthand name of course refers to the common feature of CC licenses providing for attribution to the author or some other designated entity. Currently the boilerplate legal notice handles attribution by saying: The original authors of this document, and Red Hat, designate the Fedora Project as the "Attribution Party" for purposes of CC-BY-SA. In accordance with CC-BY-SA, if you distribute this document or an adaptation of it, you must provide the URL for the original version. The first sentence there is somewhat cryptic for someone who hasn't read the so-called "Legal Code" of CC BY-SA 3.0. Basically section 4(c) says that a distributor of the original or a derivative work must (1) preserve copyright notices and (2) provide the name of the "Original Author" (as defined, for a Fedora manual I'd say this would be any named human authors or any substitute like "Fedora Documentation Team" in the Installation Guide). In addition or alternatively, the "Original Author and/or Licensor" can designate an "Attribution Party", in which case the distributor must provide the name of that Attribution Party. So we've been saying "the Fedora Project" is that Attribution Party. Note also that Red Hat appears in this legal text as *the* "Licensor" for what are now basically obsolete reasons as a result of changes in the recently-implemented Fedora Project Contributor Agreement. I *think* that was one of the reasons for using the "Attribution Party" idea. CC BY-SA 3.0 goes on to require the distributor to provide the original title of the work and "to the extent reasonably practicable, the URI, if any, that Licensor specifies to be associated with the Work". There's even more detail, but that's the gist of it. That requirement about the "URI" is the explanation for the second sentence of the Fedora docs legal notice excerpt I quoted above. We are looking at revising the legal notice, which provides an opportunity to improve the attribution part. If I'm not mistaken, people on the docs team have independently given some thought recently to the issue of desired attribution. My current suggestion is to replace the above excerpt with: Required attribution under CC BY-SA shall include the names of all listed authors of this document; the name of the Fedora Project together with the URL <http://fedoraproject.org/>; and the URL for the original version of this document. Does anyone have any suggestions for improvements on that? For example: * Would it make more sense to speak of "the Fedora Documentation Project" and the URL <http://docs.fedoraproject.org/> (at which that term is used) rather than the more general reference to Fedora? * Is attribution to anything other than the listed authors desired at all? * Is it reasonable at all to include the specific URL of the original web version of the document as we've been doing (I don't know how permanent these are expected to be)? Thanks, Richard E. Fontana Open Source Licensing and Patent Counsel Red Hat, Inc.

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sections missing for translation in Release Notes
by Domingo Becker 03 Oct '11

03 Oct '11

I just wanted to let you know that there are some Release Notes sections which are not available for translations in transifex: 2.5. Cloud 4. Changes in Fedora for Developers kind regards Domingo Becker

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Legal.xml in Release Notes
by Eric Christensen 02 Oct '11

02 Oct '11

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Is there any reason for the Release Notes to have a special Legal.xml instead of the basic one that comes with the Fedora brand? Its inclusion in the POTs is causing a lot of questions for the translators and I'm worried that we are using an unvetted legal statement in the Release Notes. - --Eric -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJOiO3HAAoJEIB2q94CS7PR5Y0QALZOycKc+G1qf6Vx/SwcqP+A H0xqck6M5Zjvee/SPKAReuDT+CB3TfimtmaYo0Gx2g9o7tWLxz+LYxQ0G34G/kUK ljcSJ3H+X9G7dhOZL3EmMu3LPHcc9JvU4O5psEeB2imuZGy8msAODmGQmaiNvT26 b2cJInWkSvzS4/rP9xjAi31We6/MeuBmnxGGAo/KxVXmpzpd0pgmc4GXCyzwEWzx E5m5iFXttKyQ30keCe4f7Q9gFCAXwMIkAWKX1GPGc+JwsevaI0egEB8vocWA24sD vzUy/ldlLIiH7v/84Gd0pIn9NIjM53iJRUsOvFzbOFnGFqAZenntwip7RdnC1Ftd +vFPhibWJlOtvNZA5jXdcPp1zLqs35uBeFYJ3ipUHqR8MgfJDlVWHqZl1zX2J5b2 hXMrdUWpHyC8YJcH4qeR+KvV5m5hso0FZTKPsqfor4YYZt1x3XQa5phu4KXcw3Ep +LqOlgRGF9K9k09l27PMGH3jLfafqolfdyTTYO33aQD6iSIhcOi3iUqFoO+rAdwa T4HxXSGu+832iQwcFcnG1kYBXcp2BSFIpEvKZpSuYuQ8RFXdNWeeQpv12DdRXlfR uxwaTZQPPS/UfUP1s1L/cUGK4pa8vCEZQNGofjFVbagJHkCDmvH9dC2O/dieyErE kFCcMrjVGfSB0E6qcTDN =ofDu -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[Don't translate them!] Fedora Release Notes / Legal
by Kévin Raymond 02 Oct '11

02 Oct '11

Hi guys, I've just spoken with Spot, we should not be able to translate legal statements. This because legals are different for every contries and it should need specific skills in order to translate them. Of course, if you have those skills, that should be possible, see with Spot. @docs team, could you please remove this from transifex and be sure that we won't get those statement later? Cheers, -- Kévin Raymond User:shaiton GPG-Key: A5BCB3A2

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Docs hackfest, Milan,
by Florian Nadge 01 Oct '11

01 Oct '11

Hi, Best regards from Milan. The weather is swell and the food simply wonderful. FUDcon kicked off this morning with a big bang. We have seen a few excellent presentations. However and jmcd and jhradile gave a great and very informative overview of Publican and Docbook, which drew quite a crowd. The organizers finally got a rough schedule for our Docs hackfest. Tomorrow, some time after 10:00 we should be able to get down to work. We decided to focus on open guides for Fedora 16 and discuss possible issues around transifix. hope to see you guys on #fedora-docs, freenode. Fedora Docs hackfest: when October 2, 2011 10:00 am (approximately) where #fedora-docs, freenode Florian

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