Adam from QA alerts me to an urgent problem: It doesn't look like the Fedora 26 release notes are ready. Because of the holidays next week, we'd really like everything wrapped up... well, yesterday. Is anyone working on this?
I'll follow up on this. I believe Petr and Yoana were doing some of this work. checking pagure now ...
regards,
bex
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On Fri, Jun 30, 2017, at 06:43 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
Adam from QA alerts me to an urgent problem: It doesn't look like the Fedora 26 release notes are ready. Because of the holidays next week, we'd really like everything wrapped up... well, yesterday. Is anyone working on this?
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Kinda - Robert Kratky and Simon Clark are also helping, but even if we have *something* right now, it's so little that it doesn't make sense to package that.
I'm assuming you just need a package. If I'm correct, then we can provide a "dummy" package that basically just says "go check the website for relnotes". That way we won't block image creation or anything, and at the same time we get time till GA to actually write something.
Does that work, Matthew?
-PB
On 06/30/2017 06:59 PM, Brian Exelbierd wrote:
I'll follow up on this. I believe Petr and Yoana were doing some of this work. checking pagure now ...
regards,
bex
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On Fri, Jun 30, 2017, at 06:43 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
Adam from QA alerts me to an urgent problem: It doesn't look like the Fedora 26 release notes are ready. Because of the holidays next week, we'd really like everything wrapped up... well, yesterday. Is anyone working on this?
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On Fri, Jun 30, 2017, at 07:37 PM, Petr Bokoc wrote:
Kinda - Robert Kratky and Simon Clark are also helping, but even if we> have *something* right now, it's so little that it doesn't make sense to> package that.
I'm assuming you just need a package. If I'm correct, then we can provide a "dummy" package that basically just says "go check the website> for relnotes". That way we won't block image creation or anything, and> at the same time we get time till GA to actually write something.
Does that work, Matthew?
I'm +1 on this for what it is worth. Also, without opening a can of worms, could we revisit the need for a package when we can, in theory, keep a website accurate and the offline use case is probably minimal. Regards,
bex
-PB
On 06/30/2017 06:59 PM, Brian Exelbierd wrote:
I'll follow up on this. I believe Petr and Yoana were doing some of> > this work. checking pagure now ...
regards,
bex
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On Fri, Jun 30, 2017, at 06:43 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
Adam from QA alerts me to an urgent problem: It doesn't look like the> >> Fedora 26 release notes are ready. Because of the holidays next week,> >> we'd really like everything wrapped up... well, yesterday. Is anyone> >> working on this?
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On 06/30/2017 08:45 PM, Brian Exelbierd wrote:
On Fri, Jun 30, 2017, at 07:37 PM, Petr Bokoc wrote:
Kinda - Robert Kratky and Simon Clark are also helping, but even if we have *something* right now, it's so little that it doesn't make sense to package that.
I'm assuming you just need a package. If I'm correct, then we can provide a "dummy" package that basically just says "go check the website for relnotes". That way we won't block image creation or anything, and at the same time we get time till GA to actually write something.
Does that work, Matthew?
I'm +1 on this for what it is worth. Also, without opening a can of worms, could we revisit the need for a package when we can, in theory, keep a website accurate and the offline use case is probably minimal.
Regards,
bex
Definitely. I'm pretty sure we've been talking about this several releases ago, it just never went anywhere. I really don't see a need for offline relnotes either.
Anyway, branch f26-dummy (tag 26.01) has a version that basically just says "go check the website", builds fine, and has updated revhistory for f26, so it should be ready to be packaged. However, I can't do that right now, since I've never done it before, I'm not sure I even have the permissions to use koji or whatever we use now, I'm definitely not set up for it, and it's half past nine on a Friday evening. I think nb did the packaging last release without much issue, so you could try asking him.
Cheers, Petr
-PB
On 06/30/2017 06:59 PM, Brian Exelbierd wrote:
I'll follow up on this. I believe Petr and Yoana were doing some of this work. checking pagure now ...
regards,
bex
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On Fri, Jun 30, 2017, at 06:43 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
Adam from QA alerts me to an urgent problem: It doesn't look like the Fedora 26 release notes are ready. Because of the holidays next week, we'd really like everything wrapped up... well, yesterday. Is anyone working on this?
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Matt et al. I listed three bugs that should be in the release notes. The keyboard spoke of Anaconda incorrectly supports adding a second keyboard layout. Add the second keyboard in the spoke and there will definitely be aproblem with the keyboard of the new F26. There is a wrong key mapping that treats the lowercase space character as a switch layout. The circumvention is the not add the second keyboard layout until after booting the new F26. Second note. With new F26 I'd you log into the system as root, and you are using Gnome then system-tray==>users crashes the system tray. As root within Gnome, one should be able to manage users using the system tray interface. Check Bugzilla to note the date I filed the bugs... It was with the first beta. The keyboard problem will affect bilingual Fedora users. It needs priority attention.
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On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Matthew Millermattdm@fedoraproject.org wrote: Adam from QA alerts me to an urgent problem: It doesn't look like the Fedora 26 release notes are ready. Because of the holidays next week, we'd really like everything wrapped up... well, yesterday. Is anyone working on this?
On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 08:05:39PM +0000, Leslie S Satenstein wrote:
Matt et al. I listed three bugs that should be in the release notes.
Leslie, these seem like the first one at least would be good to have at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F26_bugs
I'm not so sure about the second; logging in as root is not a use case I really am comfortable with.
Le 30/06/2017 à 22:05, Leslie S Satenstein a écrit :
Matt et al. I listed three bugs that should be in the release notes.
The keyboard spoke of Anaconda incorrectly supports adding a second keyboard layout. Add the second keyboard in the spoke and there will definitely be aproblem with the keyboard of the new F26. There is a wrong key mapping that treats the lowercase space character as a switch layout. The circumvention is the not add the second keyboard layout until after booting the new F26.
The keyboard problem will affect bilingual Fedora users.
It needs priority attention.
Hi, is this the correct issue? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F26_bugs#anaconda-lang-switch
On 2 July, a new set of isos was posted at Index of /compose/26/latest-Fedora-26/compose/Workstation/x86_64/iso The anaconda version in the iso posted therein did not have the nag (warning to use the iso at your own risk).I tested the anaconda multi-keyboard assignment spoke, (since I filed the original bug report), and that issue is resolved.I closed the bug with a "works for me". I tested the super+space with gnome+org and gnome (Wayland) and that works for me. It would just be nice to call the key by one name.Gnome in some places calls it "Window", and in other places "Super". Perhaps it just needs a mention that the Window key is synonomous with the Super key. Some testing experiencesThere is a change with Fedora's Gnome 26 Printer Setup versus Fedora's Gnome 25 printer setup. Fedora25 is correct. Fedora26 setup is missing the "print test page". This is not a show stopper.
Although I can't prove it, Gnome has some issue with Fedora 26 setup using btrfs. I can as a standard user, cause the gnome interface to lockup. When I reboot, the lockup is still present. I used the Taskbar extension (author zpydr) to test. This extension with Fedora setup as ext4 installs and configures properly. With Fedora setup onto btrfs file system, the system will lockup on installing/adjusting Taskbar parameters. (Taskbar has been working fine since Fedora 22). I have not been able to determine if it is Gnome shell or the extension that has a problem. As an unofficial tester of the workstation. In the anaconda setup, one assigns passwords to root and one creates a User. This user does not have to be an administrator. Fedora does not mandate that the first user must be an administrator. Bug 1458505 reports a root logon problem. By opening the system-tray and clicking on the "users icon" this action crashes the system-tray. It is significant, because, If a normal user is added and then one needs to create an administrator post installation or give the user administrator privileges, "without using the command line", one has to log into the system as root. That is the reason for bug 1458505. I believe it is a semi-serious bug needing fixing. The release notes should specify that within Anaconda, the created user must have administrator privileges clicked (chosen). Interestingly, the admin user and the system-tray work just fine.
From: Jean-Baptiste Holcroft jean-baptiste@holcroft.fr To: docs@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Tuesday, July 4, 2017 10:07 AM Subject: Re: release notes readiness for F26
Le 30/06/2017 à 22:05, Leslie S Satenstein a écrit :
Matt et al. I listed three bugs that should be in the release notes.
The keyboard spoke of Anaconda incorrectly supports adding a second keyboard layout. Add the second keyboard in the spoke and there will definitely be aproblem with the keyboard of the new F26. There is a wrong key mapping that treats the lowercase space character as a switch layout. The circumvention is the not add the second keyboard layout until after booting the new F26.
The keyboard problem will affect bilingual Fedora users.
It needs priority attention.
Hi, is this the correct issue? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F26_bugs#anaconda-lang-switch
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