John Babich wrote:

On Dec 24, 2007 5:02 AM, Karl Larsen k5di@zianet.com wrote:

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I followed the instructions for putting a ascii enclosed key into

mit on their web site and it worked. At least it said it did.

Karl

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PGP 4208 4D6E 595F 22B9 FF1C ECB6 4A3C 2C54 FE23 53A7

Karl:

I haven't tested your key yet, but I'll take a leap of faith and say:

Congratulations

and thanks for hanging in there and working with everybody to find a solution, and, as a result, helping to improve the docs and the process of getting on board.

Best Wishes,

John Babich

Take nothing on faith :-)

But I did find out what a ascii enclosed file is and a sample should be in the instructions. I was not aware it is 15 lines of code. I was putting in the 8 bit short ID and the web page barfed.

Here is what I would like to see in the join instructions.

-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux)

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You say that this is what you send to a server. I was surprised that the file was put in the "clipboard" by seahorse and the file was paste to the MIT web page on Firefox. This step needs some more help because you need to make sure the paste goes to the right window on the web page.

On Mon, 2007-12-24 at 12:53 +0000, Timothy Murphy wrote:

On Monday 24 December 2007 12:15:11 pm Karl Larsen wrote:

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You say that this is what you send to a server. I was surprised that the file was put in the "clipboard" by seahorse and the file was paste to the MIT web page on Firefox. This step needs some more help because you need to make sure the paste goes to the right window on the web page.

I take it you followed my suggestion.

Isn't it much easier, if you want to register a key with pgp.mit.edu to go there and follow their instructions? They seem to me perfectly clear, which is more than I can say for those in the wiki.

Do you have a URL for those instructions?

I'd like to compare them to the refreshed content at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/UsingGpg/CreatingKeys.

- Karsten

I wanted to test the key I put in pgpMIT so using seahorse I find that "Find Remote Keys" will go out on the Internet and try to match and get key data for the key ID you give it from the remote sites. There are two listed.

I looked for my new key but it was not to be found. I tried some other peoples key and they could not be found either. I have found my own this way in weeks past.

Why is it not working now? I am an Electrical Engineer and I can visualize what pgpMIT must have in a hardware sense. For sure it has a computer with a database which is backed up very well to other computers at MIT. The problem is some hardware that was hand made or perhaps software written on another computer that can be reached by the Internet. It has to have handshake system that takes data at unknown speed and stores it for a short time. It has to have logic that knows what the input must be, and when it is done. Also it checks the data it saved and if it passes it tells the sender it is done.

Another program is needed to also listen to the Internet for a person wanting to check/get the public key of someone. This data is shorter like 8 bytes and can be selected in that way. There are problems however with selecting a path based on data length alone. In any case this data is sent to the main computer database and the proper data withdrawn and sent to the remote computer connected to it. There is a rats-nest of loops in such a device and I bet it fails a lot of the time. It gets a lot of garbled data input from the world and that does the trick.

At this moment I can't reach this server with my seahorse and I know at least in concept why.

Karl