A funny thing happened I thought I would share. I did report this to Shaun McCance by email yesterday, but he is off to a conference so I don't expect to hear from him until next week at best.
Over the weekend, Shaun asked why we dropped the GNOME application documentation. Now I hadn't given it a lot of thought. I know I sometimes had seen other stuff in Yelp, but not lately. Since I wasn't responsible for that "other stuff" I assumed others had made some sort of decision and I didn't really give it any thought.
Well, while testing the F13 release notes I noticed that at one point I saw the documentation appear. So I did a little test.
I made a temporary directory, and moved /usr/share/omf/about-fedora and /usr/share/omf/fedora-release-notes into the temporary directory (on F12). Voila, the GNOME documentation appears. Move either one back and the GNOME docs disappear!
I don't know if there is something quirky with our omf files or what. Hopefully Shaun can track down what is happening.
--McD
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:25:27AM -0400, John J. McDonough wrote:
A funny thing happened I thought I would share. I did report this to Shaun McCance by email yesterday, but he is off to a conference so I don't expect to hear from him until next week at best.
Over the weekend, Shaun asked why we dropped the GNOME application documentation. Now I hadn't given it a lot of thought. I know I sometimes had seen other stuff in Yelp, but not lately. Since I wasn't responsible for that "other stuff" I assumed others had made some sort of decision and I didn't really give it any thought.
Well, while testing the F13 release notes I noticed that at one point I saw the documentation appear. So I did a little test.
I made a temporary directory, and moved /usr/share/omf/about-fedora and /usr/share/omf/fedora-release-notes into the temporary directory (on F12). Voila, the GNOME documentation appears. Move either one back and the GNOME docs disappear!
I don't know if there is something quirky with our omf files or what. Hopefully Shaun can track down what is happening.
I'm not quite understanding what you're observing because when you say "appears" and "disappears" I don't know what you're looking at. I'll get with you on IRC and once I get a clue, I'll report back!
On Thu, 2010-03-25 at 15:16 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
I'm not quite understanding what you're observing because when you say "appears" and "disappears" I don't know what you're looking at. I'll get with you on IRC and once I get a clue, I'll report back!
Copying this direct too because I don't know whether the images will make it to the list.
yelp-initial shows yelp (F12) as it typically looks.
yelp-norn shows yelp when fedora-release-notes and about-fedora have been hidden from yelp.
The categories that show on the right that do not appear on the left are all categories containing no documents, which may explain why they do not appear on the left. Apparently that list on the right just fills up space if there is nothing else to show there.
Whether or not f-r-n is installed, all the other documentation seems to be displayable, so it looks as if I was simply confused about what was happening, which also means I need to ask Shaun to clarify his question.
--McD
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 09:48:15AM -0400, John J. McDonough wrote:
On Thu, 2010-03-25 at 15:16 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
I'm not quite understanding what you're observing because when you say "appears" and "disappears" I don't know what you're looking at. I'll get with you on IRC and once I get a clue, I'll report back!
Copying this direct too because I don't know whether the images will make it to the list.
Generally you should post attachments like this to your fedorapeople.org space (or some other web-accessible location), and put the URL in your email. Some people will have a hard time with the attachments, and others with the mail bloat, otherwise.
yelp-initial shows yelp (F12) as it typically looks.
yelp-norn shows yelp when fedora-release-notes and about-fedora have been hidden from yelp.
The categories that show on the right that do not appear on the left are all categories containing no documents, which may explain why they do not appear on the left. Apparently that list on the right just fills up space if there is nothing else to show there.
Whether or not f-r-n is installed, all the other documentation seems to be displayable, so it looks as if I was simply confused about what was happening, which also means I need to ask Shaun to clarify his question.
Ah, and I see what's happening on my system and why it's different now. I have gnome-user-docs and gnome-devel-docs, for instance, installed on my system, so it looks different:
[paul@scarlett ~]$ rpm -qa yelp fedora-release-notes gnome*docs* yelp-2.28.1-1.fc12.x86_64 gnome-devel-docs-2.28.0-1.fc12.noarch fedora-release-notes-12.0.2-1.fc12.noarch gnome-user-docs-2.28.0-1.fc12.noarch
The result: http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/temp/desktop-yelp-f12.png
That's why I was so surprised to hear about this "default" listing! Perhaps gnome-user-docs was removed from the default Desktop Live CD in a previous release, for space reasons. With the new, larger Desktop Live image, I'm hoping that's no longer the case.
docs@lists.stg.fedoraproject.org
-
John J. McDonough -
Paul W. Frields