Hello all,
I want just to ask if there's something new about idea of fedora kbase listed over here http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/SteeringCommittee/TaskSchedule ? I think it's a good idea to make some collection of technical how to's for users, and I'm ready to help. Good example is the doc wiki of our french colleagues http://doc.fedora-fr.org/Accueil.
Regards,
Marek Mahut
Marek Mahut wrote:
Hello all,
I want just to ask if there's something new about idea of fedora kbase listed over here http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/SteeringCommittee/TaskSchedule ? I think it's a good idea to make some collection of technical how to's for users, and I'm ready to help. Good example is the doc wiki of our french colleagues http://doc.fedora-fr.org/Accueil.
I was interested in this long back. However I couldnt find a easy to use Kbase system written in Python which is the prefered language for the infrastructure team. PHP which is popular language for these are not a option for us.
Rahul
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Marek Mahut wrote:
Hello all,
I want just to ask if there's something new about idea of fedora kbase listed over here http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/SteeringCommittee/TaskSchedule ? I think it's a good idea to make some collection of technical how to's for users, and I'm ready to help. Good example is the doc wiki of our french colleagues http://doc.fedora-fr.org/Accueil.
I was interested in this long back. However I couldnt find a easy to use Kbase system written in Python which is the prefered language for the infrastructure team. PHP which is popular language for these are not a option for us.
Rahul
What about using a Plone-driven site as kbase? It wouldn't need that much of thinking, just a workflow and everything could be good to go.
Pro's: - ------ * Plone supports a folder-like structure by which we can sort all howto's * Easy interface for adding new howto's * Good search mechanism
Con's: - ------ * Not *yet* tied into Account System and CLA-stuff, but I think we can handle this one, by only giving the right guys, the right access level, as with the EditGroup on the wiki
Maybe we should test this on the plone-instance for FDP??
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Bart Couvreur wrote:
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Rahul Sundaram schreef:
Marek Mahut wrote:
Hello all,
I want just to ask if there's something new about idea of fedora kbase listed over here http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/SteeringCommittee/TaskSchedule ? I think it's a good idea to make some collection of technical how to's for users, and I'm ready to help. Good example is the doc wiki of our french colleagues http://doc.fedora-fr.org/Accueil.
I was interested in this long back. However I couldnt find a easy to use Kbase system written in Python which is the prefered language for the infrastructure team. PHP which is popular language for these are not a option for us.
Rahul
What about using a Plone-driven site as kbase? It wouldn't need that much of thinking, just a workflow and everything could be good to go.
Pro's:
- Plone supports a folder-like structure by which we can sort all howto's
- Easy interface for adding new howto's
- Good search mechanism
Con's:
- Not *yet* tied into Account System and CLA-stuff, but I think we can
handle this one, by only giving the right guys, the right access level, as with the EditGroup on the wiki
Maybe we should test this on the plone-instance for FDP??
Plone would be good, yes but we are in need of help there. If you are interested see the following pages
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/RFR/DocsProjectPlone http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/PloneIssues http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/RFR/Plone http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/PloneToDo
Rahul
On Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 09:33:01PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Marek Mahut wrote:
Hello all, I want just to ask if there's something new about idea of fedora kbase listed over here http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/SteeringCommittee/TaskSchedule ? I think it's a good idea to make some collection of technical how to's for users, and I'm ready to help. Good example is the doc wiki of our french colleagues http://doc.fedora-fr.org/Accueil.
I was interested in this long back. However I couldnt find a easy to use Kbase system written in Python which is the prefered language for the infrastructure team. PHP which is popular language for these are not a option for us.
Hello,
And why we can't use the same wiki as on fedoraproject.org ? Something like gentoo-wiki.org ?
Maybe Sam or Mike can told us more about the progress on this project.
Rahul
Best Regards,
Marek Mahut
Marek Mahut wrote:
On Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 09:33:01PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Marek Mahut wrote:
Hello all, I want just to ask if there's something new about idea of fedora kbase listed over here http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/SteeringCommittee/TaskSchedule ? I think it's a good idea to make some collection of technical how to's for users, and I'm ready to help. Good example is the doc wiki of our french colleagues http://doc.fedora-fr.org/Accueil.
I was interested in this long back. However I couldnt find a easy to use Kbase system written in Python which is the prefered language for the infrastructure team. PHP which is popular language for these are not a option for us.
Hello,
And why we can't use the same wiki as on fedoraproject.org ? Something like gentoo-wiki.org ?
Maybe Sam or Mike can told us more about the progress on this project.
We could use a wiki but a FAQ management system allows us to do things more efficiently. It is possible that we use the wiki to gather content first if there is enough interest in doing so.
Rahul
On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 20:14 +0100, Marek Mahut wrote:
On Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 09:33:01PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Marek Mahut wrote:
Hello all, I want just to ask if there's something new about idea of fedora kbase listed over here http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/SteeringCommittee/TaskSchedule ? I think it's a good idea to make some collection of technical how to's for users, and I'm ready to help. Good example is the doc wiki of our french colleagues http://doc.fedora-fr.org/Accueil.
I was interested in this long back. However I couldnt find a easy to use Kbase system written in Python which is the prefered language for the infrastructure team. PHP which is popular language for these are not a option for us.
Hello,
And why we can't use the same wiki as on fedoraproject.org ? Something like gentoo-wiki.org ?
Maybe Sam or Mike can told us more about the progress on this project.
I don't have any updates on the progress here. I am interested in helping but the lack of PHP as an option is tough... Plone has been stalled for a while due to version issues. Mike - any update on that?
Sam
Rahul
Best Regards,
Marek Mahut
On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 09:54 -0500, Sam Folk-Williams wrote:
On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 20:14 +0100, Marek Mahut wrote:
On Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 09:33:01PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Marek Mahut wrote:
Hello all, I want just to ask if there's something new about idea of fedora kbase listed over here http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/SteeringCommittee/TaskSchedule ? I think it's a good idea to make some collection of technical how to's for users, and I'm ready to help. Good example is the doc wiki of our french colleagues http://doc.fedora-fr.org/Accueil.
I was interested in this long back. However I couldnt find a easy to use Kbase system written in Python which is the prefered language for the infrastructure team. PHP which is popular language for these are not a option for us.
Hello,
And why we can't use the same wiki as on fedoraproject.org ? Something like gentoo-wiki.org ?
Maybe Sam or Mike can told us more about the progress on this project.
I don't have any updates on the progress here. I am interested in helping but the lack of PHP as an option is tough... Plone has been stalled for a while due to version issues. Mike - any update on that?
We have a working, up-to-date Plone instance available for people to use and test at publictest5.fedora.redhat.com/ploneTest . If you need administrator rights to do something, please let me or Karsten know. If you simply want to piddle around, it's very easy to install Zope+Plone on any FC6 box and sandbox there. From what I gather, anything you create can be exported, and then imported onto some other instance for use there.
O/H Marek Mahut έγραψε:
On Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 09:33:01PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Marek Mahut wrote:
Hello all, I want just to ask if there's something new about idea of fedora kbase listed over here http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/SteeringCommittee/TaskSchedule ? I think it's a good idea to make some collection of technical how to's for users, and I'm ready to help. Good example is the doc wiki of our french colleagues http://doc.fedora-fr.org/Accueil.
I was interested in this long back. However I couldnt find a easy to use Kbase system written in Python which is the prefered language for the infrastructure team. PHP which is popular language for these are not a option for us.
Hello,
And why we can't use the same wiki as on fedoraproject.org ? Something like gentoo-wiki.org ?
Maybe Sam or Mike can told us more about the progress on this project.
There is a valid concern on Marek's argument. We currently have the following placeholders for documentation:
1. Guides 2. Release notes 3. Various wiki pages
Sure, neither docbook or the wiki are suitable for having a FAQ-style knowledge base. But I believe we should be careful not to create another front that will fragment our efforts, decrease modularity and last but not least, duplicate our content (which is not much compared to other distros BTW :).
Some probably necessary technical stuff the system should have could be: a Fedora account system hook, monitoring of updates, import/export to wiki/docbook, written in python & opensource.
If we can support this effort *long-term*, then sure, let's go for it. If not, we should probably think of building the KB in the wiki or docbook.
-d
Dimitris Glezos wrote:
Sure, neither docbook or the wiki are suitable for having a FAQ-style knowledge base. But I believe we should be careful not to create another front that will fragment our efforts, decrease modularity and last but not least, duplicate our content (which is not much compared to other distros BTW :).
Some probably necessary technical stuff the system should have could be: a Fedora account system hook, monitoring of updates, import/export to wiki/docbook, written in python & opensource.
If we can support this effort *long-term*, then sure, let's go for it. If not, we should probably think of building the KB in the wiki or docbook.
The bottlenecks are mostly on contributors. Not infrastructure. See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAQ for some FAQs. More of these on a linear presentation scheme would get awkward to manage pretty soon however.
Rahul
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