Re: [Developer-portal] Re: Preparing a new release of Fedora Developer Portal - asking for feedback
Ok, I'm fine with that. I was just bringing up a question we discussed time ago and I'm asked sometimes by L10n folks. Thanks for confirming it. Regards. Robert
2016-04-22 8:35 GMT+02:00 Petr Hracek phracek@redhat.com:
Hi Robert,
I guess, developer portal should be only in English. Many developer documentation are in English, like Python, Perl, Ruby.
Regards Petr
On 04/21/2016 07:54 PM, Adam Samalik wrote:
Hi Robert,
the update does not include I18n. Using it is not on our plan - but that doesn't mean we don't want it. We just didn't think about it. If you want to help us with it, I will be more than happy to have it. But I'm not sure how it would work with all the content. Especially in terms of contributing.
Adam
On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 2:21 PM, Robert Mayr robyduck@fedoraproject.org wrote:
2016-04-20 18:53 GMT+02:00 Joe Brockmeier < jzb@redhat.com jzb@redhat.com>:
On 04/20/2016 12:52 PM, Pete Travis wrote:
This might also be interesting for Docs people.
How can we have these sorts of conversations without the multi-list problem?
There are several discussions that ought to involve marketing, docs, design, etc. We definitely need to remove barriers to communications here.
Best,
jzb
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Hi Adam, not sure where my reply passes and where not (I'm not subscribed to any ML), but:
Does the update also include I18n? The developer portal is somewhere in between websites and Infra, so if you consider to add this too, you probably need to create and push the source file to Zanata. Or is this a plan for further releases?
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Quote : "Out of the six billion people in the world, only 339 million have English as a first language [3]." https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/translate-fedora-24-in-your-language...
Most programming languages are english based, because it's presently the easiest language to collaborate. They are still thousands of website that explain and give tutorial in local languages.
Same for Fedora, and we still translate softwares, websites and documentations.
"Software developpement" is more and more common, we slowly teach it from elementary schools. We should not restrict access to information. Even fedora budget is translatable, why would we like to translate that kind of website as working language in Fedora is english ?
Fedora Developer Portal is build half way between communication website and Fedora documentation. Both is relevant to be translatable and helps to reach more users.
Fedora Developer Portal is no exception with any of the work of Fedora Websites or Docs Project. It would rather use community tools : pagure/fedorahosted/bugzilla/Zanata, and respect Fedora Foundations, including Freedom by not using google analytics or promote usage of github.
If you can't make it translatable because of time, it's a thing, but if you don't because you haven't thought at it or don't see the point, it's a problem. The Websites and Docs projects have both experience in this and may help for tools. L10N team can help to explain what works well or not.
Please don't close the door to localization. You said 6 month ago you waited to have more feedback. If you go too far, the cost to include it will be too high. Please think about it for fedora-hubs too.
Note : https://techbase.kde.org is translatable, same for https://developer.gnome.org/languages
Le 2016-04-22 08:50, Robert Mayr a écrit :
Ok, I'm fine with that. I was just bringing up a question we discussed time ago and I'm asked sometimes by L10n folks. Thanks for confirming it. Regards. Robert
2016-04-22 8:35 GMT+02:00 Petr Hracek phracek@redhat.com:
Hi Robert,
I guess, developer portal should be only in English. Many developer documentation are in English, like Python, Perl, Ruby.
Regards Petr
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