I pinged Stano Ochotnicky to find out his current recommendations for
tracking the contents of Docker images, since he's been looking into
that on the Red Hat side of things. I've forwarded his full reply to
Vaclav, but can't post the whole thing here since it includes some Red
Hat internal details.
However, one key point is that Stano is actually looking at the image
build and package/image mapping problem as two *different* problems:
* base images
* layered images
That's a useful distinction, since base images share a lot of
similarities with existing VM images, while layered images are a new
kind of thing.
For base images, Stano's suggestion is to pursue a Koji based solution.
It already has all of the necessary details (even if they're not
necessarily exposed in the most convenient way), and base images will
need rebuilding in similar circumstances to when VM images need to be
rebuilt. That's more Base WG territory than it is Env & Stacks, though.
For layered images, the field is a lot more open. Since they don't align
neatly with an existing concept the way base images do, it's less clear
how best to handle them.
In a separate discussion, Clayton Coleman pointed out that there's an
"all in one" OpenShift v3 binary available for experimentation:
I haven't tried it myself, but that may be away to start experimenting
with the v3 image building capabilities.
Red Hat Hosted & Shared Services
Software Engineering & Development, Brisbane
HSS Provisioning Architect
WG meeting will be at 13:00 UTC (14:00 London, 15:00 Brno, 9:00 Boston,
22:00 Tokyo) in #fedora-meeting on Freenode.
= Topics =
* FollowUp: mapping CVEs to Docker images that need rebuilding
* Docker Documentation for Fedora
* Idea: Ability to define dependencies between coprs (correctly)
* Picking chairman for the next meeting
My name is Zac Dover and I work at Red Hat as a Senior Technical Writer. Matthew Miller brought to my attention the email included below and suggested that I might be able to contribute. Here is the email:
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> Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2014 17:39:40 +0200
> From: Václav Pavlín <vpavlin(a)redhat.com>
> To: Fedora Environment and Stacks Working Group mailing list
> Subject: Fedora Docker landing page
> X-Bogo25: H 0
> We talked about Docker with hhorak and came to the conclusion we
> miss some Fedora Docker landing page for newbies.
> I think it might be a good idea to create a website
> docker.fedoraproject.org where users could find all the important
> information about Docker and Fedora:
> * How to install Docker on Fedora
> * Where to find Fedora images (links to Docker Hub repos)
> * How to run containers
> * How to write Dockerfiles properly (Project Atomic has some "best
> practices" on their site)
> * Where to find Fedora Dockerfiles
> * Vocabulary (Fedora Docker Base Image vs. Fedora Base Image - which
> might be confused with Fedora Cloud Image...)
> and other people might come up with other interesting topics to
> present there.
> The page might be simple Wordpress with almost static content.
> What do you think?
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I have already written material on how to install Docker on Fedora, where to find Fedora images, how to run containers, how to write Dockerfiles properly (my name is the one on the Dockerfile manpage in RHEL7). I also have a number of handwritten notes that I would be glad to type up into a glossary.
Because this matter has only just come to my attention, and because the notes I have stored electronically are on a fileserver within the Red Hat VPN, and because I don't know who all the stakeholders are in this matter, please tell me how and in which format you would like to see my notes (if, indeed, you would like to see them).
I have subscribed to env-and-stacks, and I look forward to getting easy-to-read explanatory containerization procedures and concepts into the minds of our audience.
Please do not hesitate to contact me.
J. Zachary Dover
Senior Technical Writer
Red Hat Asia Pacific
We talked about Docker with hhorak and came to the conclusion we miss
some Fedora Docker landing page for newbies.
I think it might be a good idea to create a website
docker.fedoraproject.org where users could find all the important
information about Docker and Fedora:
* How to install Docker on Fedora
* Where to find Fedora images (links to Docker Hub repos)
* How to run containers
* How to write Dockerfiles properly (Project Atomic has some "best
practices" on their site)
* Where to find Fedora Dockerfiles
* Vocabulary (Fedora Docker Base Image vs. Fedora Base Image - which
might be confused with Fedora Cloud Image...)
and other people might come up with other interesting topics to present
The page might be simple Wordpress with almost static content.
What do you think?
Lead Infrastructure Engineer
Brno, Czech Republic