(2012年09月11日 20:49), Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
On Tuesday 11 of September 2012 12:12:36 apeter@redhat.com wrote:
Dear All,
We have tried installing Alpha TC5 and its working (we are testing the currently prepared test cases). Do you really think its necessary to postpone the l10n testing? Or can we go ahead testing with the scheduled date [1] with available ISO?
There's also RC2 now available, at least Lives seems ok to me, trying DVD installation right now. So I hope we are very close to the final Alpha.
Thank you for these good news, confirming that recent lives start working. I've read others posts too. Please notice that we are NOT using any TC or RC. Because those generally do not contain latest translation, and no point to have l10n-qa-test with such image. The image must be composed specifically for l10n-qa-test with latest translation by release engineering, and will be composed for this purpose. This has been discussed, confirmed and approved between FLSCO and FESCO. Besides, TC or RC may be used for i18n-qa-test. These two tests are different with separate purpose and process.
A request of repackaging with latest translation and a request of composing the image from them are made to fedora package maintainers and release engineering respectively, a week and a few days before the test day accordingly. It means that allowing more time increases the chance for smaller teams to have a image with more translation completed to test. In other words, a image to be composed end of next week can contain more translation than a image to be composed end of this week. With this point of view, I see beneficial to follow the slip. In addition, assuming many or some of translators are also busy translating Gnome 3.6 which translation deadline is 25-Sep and will be part of F18, it would also be good idea to have qa-test-day on 27-Sep after this due.
However, if majority of translators feel comfortable to stick with 2012-09-20, l10n-qa-test should be organized with such date. I will be out of town tomorrow and Friday and no access to internet. If l10n-qa-test day stays same 2012-09-20, the above requests need to be organized asap. Could you please someone organize instead? Repackaging request simply can be sent out to devel-announcement ML. For composing, please refer to the tickets [1] and [2].
[1]:https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5306 [2]:https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/301
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[1] - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-09-20_l10n
On തിങ്കള് 10 സെപ്റ്റംബര് 2012 05:50 , Noriko Mizumoto wrote:
Hi fltg group
I am understanding that l10n qa testday will be slipped again as the result of f18 alpha slip [1]. It will be 2012-09-27 now. Please correct me if this is wrong.
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09/12/2012 04:01 PM ਨੂੰ, Noriko Mizumoto ਨੇ ਲਿਖਿਆ:
(2012年09月11日 20:49), Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
On Tuesday 11 of September 2012 12:12:36 apeter@redhat.com wrote:
Dear All,
We have tried installing Alpha TC5 and its working (we are testing the currently prepared test cases). Do you really think its necessary to postpone the l10n testing? Or can we go ahead testing with the scheduled date [1] with available ISO?
There's also RC2 now available, at least Lives seems ok to me, trying DVD installation right now. So I hope we are very close to the final Alpha.
Thank you for these good news, confirming that recent lives start working. I've read others posts too. Please notice that we are NOT using any TC or RC. Because those generally do not contain latest translation, and no point to have l10n-qa-test with such image. The image must be composed specifically for l10n-qa-test with latest translation by release engineering, and will be composed for this purpose. This has been discussed, confirmed and approved between FLSCO and FESCO. Besides, TC or RC may be used for i18n-qa-test. These two tests are different with separate purpose and process.
A request of repackaging with latest translation and a request of composing the image from them are made to fedora package maintainers and release engineering respectively, a week and a few days before the test day accordingly. It means that allowing more time increases the chance for smaller teams to have a image with more translation completed to test. In other words, a image to be composed end of next week can contain more translation than a image to be composed end of this week. With this point of view, I see beneficial to follow the slip. In addition, assuming many or some of translators are also busy translating Gnome 3.6 which translation deadline is 25-Sep and will be part of F18, it would also be good idea to have qa-test-day on 27-Sep after this due.
However, if majority of translators feel comfortable to stick with 2012-09-20, l10n-qa-test should be organized with such date. I will be out of town tomorrow and Friday and no access to internet. If l10n-qa-test day stays same 2012-09-20, the above requests need to be organized asap. Could you please someone organize instead? Repackaging request simply can be sent out to devel-announcement ML. For composing, please refer to the tickets [1] and [2].
request for get latest build from updates-testing already sent (thanks tagoh), so currently continue with mentioned dates. - Need to send request on devel-announcement mailing list - test ISO (with i18n
Alpha GOLD declared, so it can be installed and updated for testing.
thanks
(2012年09月14日 15:19), A S Alam wrote:
09/12/2012 04:01 PM ਨੂੰ, Noriko Mizumoto ਨੇ ਲਿਖਿਆ:
(2012年09月11日 20:49), Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
On Tuesday 11 of September 2012 12:12:36 apeter@redhat.com wrote:
Dear All,
We have tried installing Alpha TC5 and its working (we are testing the currently prepared test cases). Do you really think its necessary to postpone the l10n testing? Or can we go ahead testing with the scheduled date [1] with available ISO?
There's also RC2 now available, at least Lives seems ok to me, trying DVD installation right now. So I hope we are very close to the final Alpha.
Thank you for these good news, confirming that recent lives start working. I've read others posts too. Please notice that we are NOT using any TC or RC. Because those generally do not contain latest translation, and no point to have l10n-qa-test with such image. The image must be composed specifically for l10n-qa-test with latest translation by release engineering, and will be composed for this purpose. This has been discussed, confirmed and approved between FLSCO and FESCO. Besides, TC or RC may be used for i18n-qa-test. These two tests are different with separate purpose and process.
A request of repackaging with latest translation and a request of composing the image from them are made to fedora package maintainers and release engineering respectively, a week and a few days before the test day accordingly. It means that allowing more time increases the chance for smaller teams to have a image with more translation completed to test. In other words, a image to be composed end of next week can contain more translation than a image to be composed end of this week. With this point of view, I see beneficial to follow the slip. In addition, assuming many or some of translators are also busy translating Gnome 3.6 which translation deadline is 25-Sep and will be part of F18, it would also be good idea to have qa-test-day on 27-Sep after this due.
However, if majority of translators feel comfortable to stick with 2012-09-20, l10n-qa-test should be organized with such date. I will be out of town tomorrow and Friday and no access to internet. If l10n-qa-test day stays same 2012-09-20, the above requests need to be organized asap. Could you please someone organize instead? Repackaging request simply can be sent out to devel-announcement ML. For composing, please refer to the tickets [1] and [2].
request for get latest build from updates-testing already sent (thanks tagoh), so currently continue with mentioned dates.
- Need to send request on devel-announcement mailing list
- test ISO (with i18n
Alpha GOLD declared, so it can be installed and updated for testing.
I can see the request for i18n test, not l10n test. As said before, sending request to devel-announcement is must for l10n test. Otherwise package maintainers won't pick up, rebuild and push their packages with latest translation. There is no request found in the archive [1], therefore we can not expect any build containing latest translation to test atm. Please notice that i18n test and l10n test are different, and can be organized separately.
[1]:http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2012-September/threa...
noriko
thanks
On തിങ്കള് 17 സെപ്റ്റംബര് 2012 11:58 , Noriko Mizumoto wrote:
(2012年 09月14日 15:19), A S Alam wrote:
09/12/2012 04:01 PM ਨੂੰ, Noriko Mizumoto ਨੇ ਲਿਖਿਆ:
(2012年09月11日 20:49), Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
On Tuesday 11 of September 2012 12:12:36 apeter@redhat.com wrote:
Dear All,
We have tried installing Alpha TC5 and its working (we are testing the currently prepared test cases). Do you really think its necessary to postpone the l10n testing? Or can we go ahead testing with the scheduled date [1] with available ISO?
There's also RC2 now available, at least Lives seems ok to me, trying DVD installation right now. So I hope we are very close to the final Alpha.
Thank you for these good news, confirming that recent lives start working. I've read others posts too. Please notice that we are NOT using any TC or RC. Because those generally do not contain latest translation, and no point to have l10n-qa-test with such image. The image must be composed specifically for l10n-qa-test with latest translation by release engineering, and will be composed for this purpose. This has been discussed, confirmed and approved between FLSCO and FESCO. Besides, TC or RC may be used for i18n-qa-test. These two tests are different with separate purpose and process.
A request of repackaging with latest translation and a request of composing the image from them are made to fedora package maintainers and release engineering respectively, a week and a few days before the test day accordingly. It means that allowing more time increases the chance for smaller teams to have a image with more translation completed to test. In other words, a image to be composed end of next week can contain more translation than a image to be composed end of this week. With this point of view, I see beneficial to follow the slip. In addition, assuming many or some of translators are also busy translating Gnome 3.6 which translation deadline is 25-Sep and will be part of F18, it would also be good idea to have qa-test-day on 27-Sep after this due.
However, if majority of translators feel comfortable to stick with 2012-09-20, l10n-qa-test should be organized with such date. I will be out of town tomorrow and Friday and no access to internet. If l10n-qa-test day stays same 2012-09-20, the above requests need to be organized asap. Could you please someone organize instead? Repackaging request simply can be sent out to devel-announcement ML. For composing, please refer to the tickets [1] and [2].
request for get latest build from updates-testing already sent (thanks tagoh), so currently continue with mentioned dates.
- Need to send request on devel-announcement mailing list
- test ISO (with i18n
Alpha GOLD declared, so it can be installed and updated for testing.
I can see the request for i18n test, not l10n test. As said before, sending request to devel-announcement is must for l10n test. Otherwise package maintainers won't pick up, rebuild and push their packages with latest translation. There is no request found in the archive [1], therefore we can not expect any build containing latest translation to test atm. Please notice that i18n test and l10n test are different, and can be organized separately.
noriko
We can have the l10n test day postponed to Sep 27th. Lets discuss about the same on the ticket. Accordingly mails will be sent to all list including devel-announcement list.
Thanks Ani FLTG member
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(2012年09月17日 17:04), Ani peter wrote:
On തിങ്കള് 17 സെപ്റ്റംബര് 2012 11:58 , Noriko Mizumoto wrote:
(2012年 09月14日 15:19), A S Alam wrote:
09/12/2012 04:01 PM ਨੂੰ, Noriko Mizumoto ਨੇ ਲਿਖਿਆ:
(2012年09月11日 20:49), Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
On Tuesday 11 of September 2012 12:12:36 apeter@redhat.com wrote:
Dear All,
We have tried installing Alpha TC5 and its working (we are testing the currently prepared test cases). Do you really think its necessary to postpone the l10n testing? Or can we go ahead testing with the scheduled date [1] with available ISO?
There's also RC2 now available, at least Lives seems ok to me, trying DVD installation right now. So I hope we are very close to the final Alpha.
Thank you for these good news, confirming that recent lives start working. I've read others posts too. Please notice that we are NOT using any TC or RC. Because those generally do not contain latest translation, and no point to have l10n-qa-test with such image. The image must be composed specifically for l10n-qa-test with latest translation by release engineering, and will be composed for this purpose. This has been discussed, confirmed and approved between FLSCO and FESCO. Besides, TC or RC may be used for i18n-qa-test. These two tests are different with separate purpose and process.
A request of repackaging with latest translation and a request of composing the image from them are made to fedora package maintainers and release engineering respectively, a week and a few days before the test day accordingly. It means that allowing more time increases the chance for smaller teams to have a image with more translation completed to test. In other words, a image to be composed end of next week can contain more translation than a image to be composed end of this week. With this point of view, I see beneficial to follow the slip. In addition, assuming many or some of translators are also busy translating Gnome 3.6 which translation deadline is 25-Sep and will be part of F18, it would also be good idea to have qa-test-day on 27-Sep after this due.
However, if majority of translators feel comfortable to stick with 2012-09-20, l10n-qa-test should be organized with such date. I will be out of town tomorrow and Friday and no access to internet. If l10n-qa-test day stays same 2012-09-20, the above requests need to be organized asap. Could you please someone organize instead? Repackaging request simply can be sent out to devel-announcement ML. For composing, please refer to the tickets [1] and [2].
request for get latest build from updates-testing already sent (thanks tagoh), so currently continue with mentioned dates.
- Need to send request on devel-announcement mailing list
- test ISO (with i18n
Alpha GOLD declared, so it can be installed and updated for testing.
I can see the request for i18n test, not l10n test. As said before, sending request to devel-announcement is must for l10n test. Otherwise package maintainers won't pick up, rebuild and push their packages with latest translation. There is no request found in the archive [1], therefore we can not expect any build containing latest translation to test atm. Please notice that i18n test and l10n test are different, and can be organized separately.
noriko
We can have the l10n test day postponed to Sep 27th. Lets discuss about the same on the ticket. Accordingly mails will be sent to all list including devel-announcement list.
Thanks heaps, ani!!
Thanks Ani FLTG member
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