Recently, I threw out an idea on how we might be able to do "User Driven
Testing" with some new code on both the client and server side, to
leverage our existing userbase to test package updates.
I've documented the framework of this here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_Driven_Testing
As Colin Walters pointed out "This needs to go through the Fedora Design
group.", and as Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote "I think it's big enough that
it would be worth organizing a FAD for. It's
exactly the kind of 'infrastructure of participation' solution that
requires significant investment, but drives major change."
I agree whole-heartedly with both of them. So, let's do a FAD and see if
over the course of a few days (possibly as much as 5), we can hash out a
solid design and the basis of an implementation.
Schedule-wise, I'm looking at sometime between June and September 2010.
If you're interested in participating, please either reply here, or let
me know offlist. We'll figure out where the best location for this is
when we have an idea of who wants to participate. Also, if you want to
participate, but have specific dates which will not work, be sure to
state that too.
This isn't just for Red Hat folks either! If you want to help, please,
chime in!
Thanks,
~spot
Hi all.
Following rooms have now been confirmed at the ETHZ CHN building:
C 14 - 172 seats
E 46 - 60 seats
G 22 - 24 seats
F42 - 54 seats
G42 - 60 seats
G46 - 30 seats
plus a lot of hacking areas (and the FrOSCamp exhibition space of course).
Hopefully that fits :)
Best Regards
Marcus
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 02:27:27PM -0400, Chris Tyler wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-03-29 at 09:57 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > > [0] and if there was a portion of the bill someone else wanted to pick
> > > up - for instance, I recall OLPC sponsored... I think it was FUDPub,
> > > back in the January 2009 FUDCon in Boston - there's no "internal Red
> > > Hat" stuff needed at all.
> >
> > We should continue to look for sponsorship opportunities for FUDCon
> > where we can do similar partnerships. Those sponsorships increase
> > when FUDCon results in some tangible gain, be it code or otherwise,
> > that's of interest to a sponsor. If the planning group for a FUDCon
> > event builds an objective for something deliverable like that, the
> > potential's much greater for substantial sponsorship.
>
> I wonder if the community doesn't really see much of a difference
> between sponsored and non-sponsored -- for example, all of the recent
> FUDCons have had FUDPubs, so there's little visible difference if the
> FUDPub is sponsored by another party or not (it doesn't "alter the
> experience" from an attendee point of view). If the FUDPub is sponsored,
> then obviously Fedora is able to do other things such as sponsor more
> people to travel to FUDCon or to old additional FADs, but these are not
> highly visible or obvious consequences of the sponsorship.
>
> I wonder if sponsorship would be more successful -- that is, more
> attractive to sponsors -- if it had a more-visible impact on the event?
In the past, we've offered sponsors the ability to have a planned
presentation at the FUDCon event as well. That's more visible than
FUDPub, since we often don't have a lot of opportunities available for
flashy "Have a good time, this event is sponsored by ___" messages,
since we don't usually control the venues to that extent. We've done
co-branded swag too, such as T-shirts, which is sort of a continuing
ad for the sponsor.
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Hi,
We would like to extend/continue our disscussion regarding FUDCon
planning in india.
So that we can move forward with various responsibilities and goals.
The agenda of the meeting:
- Finalize location.
- Narrow down the dates to a two week period.
- Disscussion of collected agenda at[1].
- What's next?
[1]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Pune_2010/Agenda
Add your awesome idea here!!
Timing : Would Monday at 2030 IST (1500 UTC) be okay?
Please be there. We would really appreciate/like to know what you think. :)
Thanks,
--yev--
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Wow, wow, wow Marcus,
I'm really sorry and I also (like Max) need to apologize in public.
For me and in my eyes FUDCON was always an event which was in the first
line from Fedora People for Fedora people organized more or less from
the Ambassador Crew (who organize events in generell) ...
I didn't realize that this event can also be organized by external
people.
So please accept my apologize. I will shut up immediatly and you'll have
my full support because I'm also located in Zurich.
Regards
Gerold
Am Sonntag, den 28.03.2010, 19:43 +0300 schrieb Pierros Papadeas:
> 2010/3/28 Gerold Kassube <gerold(a)lugd.org>:
> > Marcus, ...
> >
> > when do you start beeing FEDORA Ambassador?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Gerold
> >
> > Am Sonntag, den 28.03.2010, 18:21 +0200 schrieb Marcus Moeller:
> >> Dear Gerold.
> >>
> >> >> > Every Persons gets his own bill and should book by his own on the
> >> >> > contingent you reserved with a wonderfull price (in the past) ...
> >> >>
> >> >> This is still valid till the end of the month (so for 2 days or so :)).
> >> >>
> >> >> > Some persons are sponsored by Red Hat.
> >> >>
> >> >> So they pay by their own and get the costs back?
> >> >>
> >> >> > Another question: Is it now fixed that you and Sandro will get the
> >> >> > organisation of the FUDCON EMEA?
> >> >>
> >> >> As far as you do not want to join us, I guess yes. Maybe Max could confirm.
> >> >>
> >> > ^^
> >> > WOW, that sounds really great to me and confirm my biggest concerns.
> >> >
> >> > Because then, if I join that group (you, resigned Ambassador till a few
> >> > days but come back with a wonderful statement and Sandro who resigned as
> >> > Ambassador shortly before FOSDEM and Organisor of FROSCAMP) ...
> >> >
> >> > ... you will not get a FUDCON, you guess!
> >> >
> >> > So maybe it's better that I resign as Ambassador and guys like you do
> >> > the job I've done so far.
> >>
> >> What caused resignment request has been solved now and mainly
> >> concerned the stucked process on FUCCon planning. This has been
> >> clarified on the Ambassadors list, already.
> >>
> >> You where not involved in planning nor seem to be interested in any
> >> form (besides stating that you are the "boss") so far. So yes, you
> >> maybe should decide to either step back a little or to join up,
> >>
> >> Best Regards
> >> Marcus
>
> I don't like to interfere or something, but you guys have taken it to
> another level.
>
> Each Fedora Contributor, contributes as much as he/she can and wants.
> If someone doesn't want to contribute on something there is NO reason
> to mock him, accuse him or something else.
>
> Please, stop being *bad* (to say the least) and continue your own way
> within Fedora. Community has it's opinion for every one of us and we
> don't need to express this opinion publicly in this way.
>
> If you feel that something has bothered you, concerning the
> Ambassadors Group (or someone within Ambassadors) please state it in a
> proper way and possibly bring it up to FAmSCo or in a meeting.
>
> Let's hope this ends here.
>
> In good will... let Fedora bloom :)
>
> ~π
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Dear Max,
how many hotel rooms are necessary for FUDCon EMEA?
Are double rooms with separated beds okay?
How is booking handled? Should the rooms be booked on the company, the
e.V., or maybe even your name?
Best Regards
Marcus
In about a month, Red Hat will be operating in its FY 2011. So I
think it would behoove us to open up the bid process for the FUDCon
for North America immediately. Are there any blockers to doing that
right now?
Second, I have a suggestion to make for the wiki but didn't want to
just override the considered work of those who documented the
organization process on this page:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon_organization_process
In particular, the schedule says that FUDCon will take 8-15 hours of
time up until 1 month before the event. Is that a bit high, or do we
really mean a *maximum* of 8-15 hours a week?
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