i18n June 2005

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Fwd: Re: [Fedora-i18n-list] keyboard difficulties
by John Francis Lee 13 Jun '05

13 Jun '05

I am sorry to bother you again, but I am still unable to enter Japanese from the keyboard. I have gimlet with Japanese and English as choices. When I choose Japanese I cannot input anything at all. When I choose English I can input English. Thanks, for all your help. Note: forwarded message attached. -- John Francis Lee 1/9-10 Thanon Trairat Muang Chiang Rai 57000 Thailand __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/

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[Fedora-i18n-list] package contribution
by Thomas Wolff 08 Jun '05

08 Jun '05

Hello, I'd like to contribute a package to your Linux distribution and I have a few questions: * What is the supposed procedure for proposing a new package and getting it accepted? * What is to be done to produce the actual package? * If I contribute to Redhat, will the package automatically be included in Fedora, Fermi, Scientific Linux as well? * If I contribute to Fedora, will the package automatically be included in Redhat and its other derivatives? The package is my editor mined (http://towo.net/mined/) which is of special interest for the internationalization community. It has extensive Unicode and CJK support. It also has an intuitive user interface and supports modern interaction paradigms in the text mode terminal (e.g. mouse control and menus in xterm). I'd appreciate comments and hints on how to proceed. Thanks and kind regards, Thomas Wolff

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Re: [Fedora-i18n-list] Questions in iiimf
by Tina Chou 07 Jun '05

07 Jun '05

On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 11:47:06 +1000, Lawrence Lim wrote >Hi Tina, >Hope you dont mind I respond in English as this mailing list in English >based. It will benefit all with different language background. :-) Hi, Thank you for your answers. I've checked the version I use. It's iiimf-le-xcin-0.1.7-9 on FC3, which is older than yours. I've upgraded it to 'iiimf-le-xcin-0.1.10-1'. It worked but I didn't find cj, phone, simplex and other input methods I had before. Instead there're four input methods and they are all pinyin (智能拼音, GRB拼音, etc.). In this case I couldn't test how cj and phone work on this version. Later I've changed it back to my previous version. :| I've also found a website with the same problem with me: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=151760 Finally, may I ask what input method do you use? :) > 1. > 使用 '倉頡' 與 '注音' 輸入法, 只要是單一個字, 就必須要再去選擇 '1', > 不像 xcin 模組下, 只需要按下 'space' 即完成. > 或許是習慣問題, 但是常常使用 '數字 1', 左手小指很不舒服, 這問題以 '倉頡' 來說最為困擾. > >Actually with CangJie mode, I was able to commit using 'space' rather >than pressing '1' when there is only one character in the candidate >window. Same goes for Zu Yin. However, if more there are more than one >characters in the candidate window, you will have to use the number key. >Be good if it is possible to use arrow keys though. ;-) > > 2. > >不知在 iiimf 模組下, 能否再增加 '詞音輸入法' 嗎? <在 xcin 模組下已存在的一種輸入法> > >Ah...I thought all input styles was migrated except Intelligent Input. >We can try to have a look in the next release to see if it is possible. >:-) thanks. > 3. > 在 '注音輸入法' 環境下, 如果需要輸入數字或英文字, 還必須再切換成 '英數環境' 才有辦法使用. > 選擇右邊數字鍵盤 => 一樣會出現注音符號 >This is when the Language Engine is switched on right?? Yes. I was under "phone". > 英文字母 => 也不能按住 shift 就可以輸入英文 >This works for me. But no Capital Letters when press shift after the >Language Engine has been switched on. I see. But right now I can't try it out... >Thanks for your feedback. :-) >Lawrence >P.S: >I am using iiimf-12.2-4 with iiimf-le-xcin-0.1.10-1 ------------ 苑婷 chouy(a)ematters.com.tw

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[Fedora-i18n-list] iiimf/iimf-le-canna on FC3 not working
by Michael Krajnak 07 Jun '05

07 Jun '05

I recently installed iiimf on an FC3 system but can not get the input method to work. Normally I operate in the en_US locale and switch using gimlet or launch an app with command line arguments (LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8 etc.). When the IM is enabled as characters are typed in they show up in english only, although they are underlined. When the space bar is pressed nothing happens... I still see english. There are several copies of the following htt_server messages in the system log: Apr 15 23:24:25 localhost htt_server[3530]: status has not been enabled yet. (1, 1) Apr 15 23:24:52 localhost htt_server[3530]: Client shut down the connection owned by im_id(1). At some point during this operation a red border appears around the gimilet applet in the gnome panel. I assume this indicates some sort of error state, but can't find any more details. I've double checked the entries in the faq, I have all the packages, setup ~/.xinput.d, double checked the fonts, searched the archives and net for similiar responses, etc. etc. Any help would be appreciated, up to and including telling where the sources are. Thanks, Mike

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[Fedora-i18n-list] Re: release-notes/FC4 kernel.xml,1.5,1.6
by Karsten Wade 07 Jun '05

07 Jun '05

On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 01:05 +0400, Andrew Martynov wrote: > Hello, Karsten! > > Should translators wait for Release Notes final readiness or > translation process will be started later but prior to FC5? I was just about to email you to go ahead. The actual release notes that are shipping with FC4 were tagged in CVS last week. This are different from what is currently in CVS. Since we are releasing translations for the Web only right now, I guess it is OK to use the latest in CVS. I'd like to host any translations on fedora.redhat.com/docs/release- notes. (Note: this page is not yet created but will be the FC4 release) The release notes point users there for the latest information and errata. We will have the English-only version that shipped with FC4 and the updated FC4+ relnotes, and can have any translations in that same list. > I have Russian translation of TXT variant of FC4 Release Notes and can > put the translated text into XML using xml2pot/po2xml. If possible > we (Russian team) would like to include our work into FC4 release. I'm sorry to all translators that we aren't getting any translations of the release notes into FC4. There wasn't enough time from the completion of the notes until it went gold. It was hours, not even days. This is because we finished the release notes at literally the last hour before final freeze. This will all be better for FC5 and even the test release notes. As for the po2xml, that sounds great. I'm interested in seeing how it looks. The documentation pages at fedora.redhat.com/docs/ are built first from DocBook HTML output, then wrapped in PHP includes. This means it should be easy to post your translations. Presuming I don't mess up the coding. :) - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, RHCE * Sr. Tech Writer * http://people.redhat.com/kwade/ gpg fingerprint: 2680 DBFD D968 3141 0115 5F1B D992 0E06 AD0E 0C41 Red Hat SELinux Guide http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-4-Manual/selinux-guide/

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[Fedora-i18n-list] Questions in iiimf
by Tina Chou 02 Jun '05

02 Jun '05

您好: 有幾個問題想要請教, 在 Fedora Core 3 使用 iiimf 模組的輸入法, 碰到幾點問題 1. 使用 '倉頡' 與 '注音' 輸入法, 只要是單一個字, 就必須要再去選擇 '1', 不像 xcin 模組下, 只需要按下 'space' 即完成. 或許是習慣問題, 但是常常使用 '數字 1', 左手小指很不舒服, 這問題以 '倉頡' 來說最為困擾. 2. 不知在 iiimf 模組下, 能否再增加 '詞音輸入法' 嗎? <在 xcin 模組下已存在的一種輸入法> 3. 在 '注音輸入法' 環境下, 如果需要輸入數字或英文字, 還必須再切換成 '英數環境' 才有辦法使用. 選擇右邊數字鍵盤 => 一樣會出現注音符號英文字母 => 也不能按住 shift 就可以輸入英文這樣有一點不太方便呢! 不知道這些問題是否能解決, 就再拜託辛苦的各位了. 謝謝你們!! ------------ tina chouy(a)ematters.com.tw

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[Fedora-i18n-list] keyboard difficulties
by John Francis Lee 02 Jun '05

02 Jun '05

Hello, I am following along with the FAQ : Q: Can I manually enable IIIMF for other locales or all locales so that I can use [insert your favorite language engine name]? $ mkdir ~/.xinput.d $ ln -s /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/iiimf ~/.xinput.d/default $ mkdir ~/.xinput.d $ ln -s /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/iiimf ~/.xinput.d/en_US Then restart X. I did that Q: I do not have GIMLET (gnome-im-switcher) enabled on my desktop. What should I do? * Right click on your panel * Press "add to panel" * Select "InputMethod Switcher" * Press "Add" I did that Q: OK! It is still not working in GNOME. What can I check? * Check if you have installed iiimf-server, iiimf-x, iiimf-libs, iiimf-gtk, iiimf-gnome-im-switcher, and one of the language engine above * Check if you have started IIIM service: i.e. service iiim status. If not please start the service in root: service iiim start * Check manually if the server is working by running LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8 GTK_IM_MODULE=iiim gedit (if you have installed iiimf-le-canna. Please check the previous question for locale reference to language engine) I did that... japanese input works! * If it is working, that's mean you do not have the environment variable or correct locale. Please check what locale are you in by running locale in command line, or check if you have ~/.xinput.d setup correctly. I am confused... I chose Japanes when I logged into to gnome, yet [ws4@ws4 ~]$ locale LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8" LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8" LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8" LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8" LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8" LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8" LC_PAPER="en_US.UTF-8" LC_NAME="en_US.UTF-8" LC_ADDRESS="en_US.UTF-8" LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.UTF-8" LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.UTF-8" LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.UTF-8" LC_ALL= And do I have to change my locale just to enter Japanese? When I use the default hotkey <ctrl-space> nothing is entered when I use the keyboard. As well I now have a keyboard selector which alternates between <USA, Tha> and the gimlet app which alternates between <en,jp> on my icon line. Thai and English still seem to work ok. And Japanese does when I include the locale on the gedit command line (at least I think it does, the romanji box appears. I don't know Japanese). Thanks for any help you might give me. -- John Francis Lee 1/9-10 Thanon Trairat Muang Chiang Rai 57000 Thailand __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/

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Re: [Fedora-i18n-list] All KDE Apps Crash on Inserting Symbol in OpenOffice
by James Ryan 01 Jun '05

01 Jun '05

Yes, the processes are still running, but it cannot convert. I press ctrl-space and nothing happens. Also, even if I kill and restart the processes, it doesn't work...I have to restart X. On Apr 26, 2005 at 11:03 PM, Leon Ho wrote: >Morpheus, > >Can you see if your httx or htt_server has dropped or not after this instance? > >Regards, >Leon > >On Tuesday 22 March 2005 17:23, morpheus wrote: >> When inserting Japanese into a document in any OpenOffice application, if >> you try to insert a "symbol" (i.e. press Home, then enter then enter again) >> every running KDE app immediately crashes. Yes, every K app on the system >> crashes at the same time. Details: >> openoffice 1.1.3 >> kernel 2.6.9-1.667 >> KDE 3.3.1-1 >> iiim 12.1.10 >> Canna 3.7p3-6 >> >> All installed from binary packages. >> >> -m >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> This mail was sent with TotalOffice--Secure, encrypted webmail with the >> look and feel of a desktop client. http://www.totalinfosecurity.com >> >> >> -- >> Fedora-i18n-list mailing list >> Fedora-i18n-list(a)redhat.com >> http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-i18n-list > >-- >Fedora-i18n-list mailing list >Fedora-i18n-list(a)redhat.com >http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-i18n-list > > > ------------------------------------ James F. Ryan CEO Total Information Security, Ltd. http://www.totalinfosecurity.com/

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