i18n July 2007

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[Fedora-i18n-list] Configuring default font
by Ali Majdzadeh 19 Dec '07

19 Dec '07

Hello All Sorry, if my question is elementary. I have installed Persian fonts. Is there a way to configure the system to use a special font as the system default font? I can view and edit text using installed fonts, but I don't know how I can specify a font to be the default one. (For example, in desktop environments or widgets' captions.) Best Regards Ali

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Volunteer Needed: fedora-i18n-list Admin
by Warren Togami 20 Sep '07

20 Sep '07

Anyone here want to be a list admin for fedora-i18n-list? I would prefer to give list ownership to someone who is already a developer within the Fedora Project. When accepted you will become co-owner of this list along with Jens Petersen. Warren Togami wtogami(a)redhat.com

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Self Introduction - Where Do I Start?
by Mustafa Qasim 16 Jul '07

16 Jul '07

Hello to all folks there ...well Mustafa here from Pakistan. I am doing my Bachelor's in software engineering right now. I started using Linux a year ago when I did a system and network administration course on RHL 9. After that I didn't got any chance to do something more with Linux. After that I get familiarized with the Open Source theory and truly I loved it, so that's y I chose JAVA for jumping into professional programming career INSTEAD of '.NET' bcoz i want to move on further with Linux. I m using FC 6 right now n when I came here I loved to c u all doing great work here. I would also like to be a part of FC community but didn't know where to start. I would love to work on Fedora documentation OR internationalization project for URDU language support in Fedora but as being a newbie at town I didn't know that how much knowledge is required to get on work in a particular project. I will love to hear whatever you have to share for me. I will be more then happy to get advice or comments or suggestions from u folks there. :) -- Mustafa Qasim Lahore, Pakistan Cell: 0321-6614972 URL: http://www.mustu.info

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Re: problem while sending gpg key to mit key server
by Mustafa Qasim 14 Jul '07

14 Jul '07

Hello! All folks there. I need some help in completing my joining process. I am stuck at the "Sending gpg key to mit key server" point. I am starting the story from start because this time I am including some other group's address in TO field. I studied the Joining Check list page and perform the tasks given there. 1)Introduced my self a couple of days ago. 2) Created the ssh key 3) Created the gpg key (Take a backup of both ~/.ssh and ~/.gnupg directories) 4) Created the Bugzilla account 5) Tried to sent the gpg key to mit server thjrough the command given in the Check list gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --send-keys GPGKEYID But at this stage it gives connection time out error. I went to gpg.mit.edu through firefox and read that we can also submit the key by pasting the ASCII of our key on their page. But i couldn't extract the ASCII by the export command gpg --export --armor alajal(a)gmail.com > mykey.txt it returns gpg: WARNING: nothing exported So please help me to get out of this problem. -- Mustafa Qasim Lahore, Pakistan Cell: 0321-6614972 URL: http://www.mustu.info

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Yum and translations
by Dimitris Glezos 13 Jul '07

13 Jul '07

For anyone who worries about translations not existing for yum, Seth has posted a blog entry about it, basically explaining the situation and happily requesting patches: http://skvidal.wordpress.com/2007/07/13/guilt-and-translations/ It's a low-hanging fruit for anyone who'd like to touch a bit of code and have a high impact on our community, bringing a smile to a lot of our translators and hence, users. -d -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos(a)jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) --

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Technical discussions for L10n
by Dimitris Glezos 11 Jul '07

11 Jul '07

Hi all. So we have some technical issues around l10n that don't fit in discussing them at fedora-trans-list, because it's mostly occupied by translators and non-technical people. Most of these issues concern the enabling of localization, which is probably a good definition for i18n. :) Two examples are the development and maintenance of translate.fedoraproject.org, and transifex. We'd like for example to notify a mailing list when a new bug is opened that concerns something technical that affects all languages. Maybe we should host these discussions on fedora-i18n-list instead of creating a new one. It will not only keep things simple, but will also bring more people to i18n-list. This is what GNOME does as well, which makes the two teams (i18n and l10n) have clear scopes. If we prefer to keep i18n-list oriented towards input methods, fonts etc, then we could create a fedora-trans-devel one. I'm mostly worried that only 4-5 people will join it though. -d -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos(a)jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) --

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Japanese input in Fedora-7 with en_US locale
by Dan Kenigsberg 11 Jul '07

11 Jul '07

Hi List, I would like to be able to enter some Japanese text while working in en_US locale. Back in FC4 I managed to do that by defining cryptic XIM environment variables an linking ~/.xinit.d. I did not understant what I was doing then, but it worked. In F-7, if I choose Japanese locale at GDM, I can press Ctrl-Space and enter Japanese text (thought it seems slower and less intuitive than what I had in FC-4). What should I do in order to have it while keeping my localization at en_US? -- Dan Kenigsberg http://www.cs.technion.ac.il/~danken ICQ 162180901

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My GSoC project: Transifex
by Dimitris Glezos 09 Jul '07

09 Jul '07

Hey all. I'm working on a system that has everything to do with our Fedora i18n, so it would be great to start discussing it here. I'm sorry I delayed to do this, but the picture wasn't really clear until now. I've sent a similar mail to this to GNOME i18n, so that the team there is up2date on what I'm doing. As some of you might already know, we're moving our l10n infrastructure from RH to Fedora systems to better maintain systems etc. For more info, see: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/RFR/ElvisMove To make this a reality, we needed a new web frontend for statistics that will be able to display statistics for many modules hosted in many repositories. We quickly got a system up and running using GNOME's damned lies software at: http://translate.fedoraproject.org/ So the problem is that Fedora Infrastructure supports all CVS, SVN, Mercurial and git version control systems (VCS) for project hosting and also, some Fedora-related modules are hosted out of the `*fedoraproject.org` space (*fpo). But translators are only given access on `cvs.fpo`, so they can't commit files to these remote systems. The translator shouldn't care where the module is hosted, he just wants to send a PO file in. Through GSoC 2007, I begun working on a system (transifex) that will give them access to submit PO files to a remote VCS. Information about it (together with an INSTALL file) can be found at: https://hosted.fedoraproject.org/projects/transifex The idea is that transifex will act as a proxy/mediator for translation commits. A translator will login to the transifex instance running on a host like `translate.fpo`, choose a module, a PO file to upload, and a destination file and click "submit". The system will commit the file for him. Underneath this is achieved by having the VCS admin create a user (eg. fedora-transifex) with a dedicated SSH key, and give it write access to the specific modules accepting translations. The transifex admin will then hook the repo and module up with the system. Each commit will be done by the "fedora-transifex" user, and the actual user's details (name, surname, email, fedora username) will be written in the commit message and Changelog file. Transifex supports filaname filters, so even if a module maintainer can't add ACLs to the repo, he can define them on the transifex side; for example, .*/po/(LINGUAS|Changelog|.*po$). The software is written in Turbogears and its architecture is similar to DL's. Basically it's an add-on to the statistics, providing a web form for submission. It's pretty easy to install it on Fedora and try it out, just follow the INSTALL file. I believe the whole project opens up some exciting opportunities for translations. Small projects hosted outside of big ones now have a chance to get some attention from translation communities without the requirement to relocate their code. And also, two communities can collaborate better by providing corrections to each other's modules. In the end, I see probably some mechanism to approve translation landing from language maintainers or something, but this is a bit in the future for now. :) Since fedora-trans-list is mostly occupied by translators and not developers/maintainers, I believe this list is a more appropriate place to host discussions for the development of the tool and our whole infrastructure that supports translations. It all falls in the category "Fedora i18n". :) So, this is it. Any ideas, suggestions, comments, are welcome. Sorry for the long email. -d -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos(a)jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos(a)jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) --

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[Fedora-i18n-list] Call for a Fedora I18n meeting
by Jens-Ulrik Petersen 04 Jul '07

04 Jul '07

We are thinking that it would be a good to have a meeting of the Fedora I18n project to discuss various technical issues openly. Some of the things to discuss include: - installation package defaults - input method desktop defaults and configuration (xinput/im-chooser) - renaming of fonts-* to reflect upstream projects - adding a IM package group? If you are interested in joining this discussion please reply and let us know when you would prefer the meetings and also any potential agenda items. Obviously it is going to be hard to find a time that is good for everyone all the time so we might try alternating between morning and evening in East Asia to give people in other regions some chance to participate also. I would like to have the first meeting in #fedora-i18n on Freenode this week. Jens -- Jens Petersen Fedora and Red Hat I18n

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[announcement] Fedora I18n IRC meeting
by Jens-Ulrik Petersen 02 Jul '07

02 Jul '07

We would have a first open meeting of the Fedora I18n Project on IRC next week: Place: #fedora-i18n on Freenode Time: 2007-07-02 06:00 UTC [1] Agenda: - desktop input method install defaults and configuration - i18n comps - renaming of fonts-* to reflect upstream projects - plans for next meeting - open discussion Jens [1] $ date -d "2007-07-02 06:00 UTC" or http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=7&day=2&year=200… Probably we will do the next meeting at a different time which will make it easier for people in different timezones to join.

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