i18n April 2010

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Hideki Hiura, a designer of XIM and IIIMF, passed away
by UTUMI Hirosi 13 May '10

13 May '10

Hello, Maybe you know that, Hideki Hiura passed away of cancer at Apr 7. http://www.kokusaika.jp/en/info/149-news-20100409.html He was a designer of XIM and IIIMF. XIM (X Input Method) was a first step to type multilingual language on Linux. Chinese article by Jserv (Jim Huang) http://blog.linux.org.tw/~jserv/archives/2010/04/_ximiiimf_hidek.html Rest in Peace. Hirosi -------------------------------------- Get the new Internet Explorer 8 optimized for Yahoo! JAPAN http://pr.mail.yahoo.co.jp/ie8/

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Please review another new proposal to improve Chinese fonts choosing in fontconfig.
by Peng Wu 19 Apr '10

19 Apr '10

Dear all, We currently plan to improve Chinese fonts on Fedora 13. Last time we post a mail on fonts and i18n mailing list, as fangqq proposed a suggestion on this. But after collecting various feedbacks from users, at fedora-i18n meeting, a new proposal is created to replace the previous one. And after recollect these feedbacks, it seems the new proposal is accepted by most users.(Discussion thread in Chinese:http://groups.google.com/group/fedora-cn/browse_thread/thread/61709…) Please review this new proposal, thanks. The goal of this new proposal is to let Simpilified Chinese (SC) and Traditional Chinese (TC) users choose different fonts. SC users choose SC writing style fonts, while TC users choose TC writing style fonts. some Chinese characters with same unicode code point is written with different style in SC and TC. See: http://tetralet.myweb.hinet.net/blog/Font_Compare.png Purpose: To follow the current font policy on Fedora, we consider a new fonts conf for Chinese users in /etc/fonts/conf.d/, as below: 1. When use Simplified Chinese (SC for brief) locale to login Fedora gdm, all default desktop fonts will use WenQuanYi; 2. When use Traditional Chinese (TC for brief) locale to login Fedora gdm, all default desktop fonts will use UMing. For more details and some other info please read on http://pwu.fedorapeople.org/fonts-conf/README.en and http://pwu.fedorapeople.org/fonts-conf. Needed Changes for this proposal: For UMing/UKai, I removed the following fontconfig confs to avoid conflicts with other confs and do some clean up on this: 35-ttf-arphic-ukai-aliases.conf 35-ttf-arphic-uming-aliases.conf 41-ttf-arphic-ukai.conf 41-ttf-arphic-uming.conf 75-ttf-arphic-ukai-select.conf are removed. and a updated version of 64-ttf-arphic-uming.conf (from http://pwu.fedorapeople.org/fonts-conf/64-ttf-arphic-uming.conf) For wqy-zenhei, some clean up is done on 44-wqy-zenhei.conf (from http://pwu.fedorapeople.org/fonts-conf/44-wqy-zenhei.conf) And 65-wqy-zenhei.conf is renamed to 64-wqy-zenhei.conf, in order to override 65-nonlatin.conf. The new version is from http://pwu.fedorapeople.org/fonts-conf/64-wqy-zenhei.conf. Note: For some unknown reason, the fc-match can't give correct results. But it seems gnome/firefox can choose the right fonts, actually I checked it with : $lsof /usr/share/fonts/*/* Thanks, Peng Wu PS:Please reply to both fedora-fonts and fedora-i18n mailing list.

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improve user experience of fedora
by 0708yc 18 Apr '10

18 Apr '10

Hello everyone!I think we should make some change to the permission mechanism in gui envirenment.Most of the time, when we want to change the permission of a file or directory in the gui envirenment,we have to use shell to do this(in most linux publish edition).This will make those users who are not familiar with shell very embarrased, and give them a bad empression that linux can not get rid of the shell.If we want to attract more users(Such as windows users), we must try to consider more for those ordinary users.This is my first time to send a mail to you, if i have not did it very well please perdon.

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Unsubscribe
by Saad Shaukat 15 Apr '10

15 Apr '10

-----Original Message----- From: i18n-request(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: 14/04/2010 17:00:09 Subject: i18n Digest, Vol 71, Issue 3 Send i18n mailing list submissions to i18n(a)lists.fedoraproject.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/i18n or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to i18n-request(a)lists.fedoraproject.org You can reach the person managing the list at i18n-owner(a)lists.fedoraproject.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of i18n digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Please review another new proposal to improve Chinese fonts choosing in fontconfig. (Peng Wu) 2. Re: Please review another new proposal to improve Chinese fonts choosing in fontconfig. (Akira TAGOH) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 23:17:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Peng Wu <pwu(a)redhat.com> Subject: Please review another new proposal to improve Chinese fonts choosing in fontconfig. To: fonts(a)lists.fedoraproject.org, i18n(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Cc: Caius Chance <cchance(a)redhat.com>, Jens Petersen <petersen(a)redhat.com> Message-ID: <208253504.760041271215077872.JavaMail.root(a)zmail01.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Dear all, We currently plan to improve Chinese fonts on Fedora 13. Last time we post a mail on fonts and i18n mailing list, as fangqq proposed a suggestion on this. But after collecting various feedbacks from users, at fedora-i18n meeting, a new proposal is created to replace the previous one. And after recollect these feedbacks, it seems the new proposal is accepted by most users.(Discussion thread in Chinese:http://groups.google.com/group/fedora-cn/browse_thread/thread/61709…) Please review this new proposal, thanks. The goal of this new proposal is to let Simpilified Chinese (SC) and Traditional Chinese (TC) users choose different fonts. SC users choose SC writing style fonts, while TC users choose TC writing style fonts. some Chinese characters with same unicode code point is written with different style in SC and TC. See: http://tetralet.myweb.hinet.net/blog/Font_Compare.png Purpose: To follow the current font policy on Fedora, we consider a new fonts conf for Chinese users in /etc/fonts/conf.d/, as below: 1. When use Simplified Chinese (SC for brief) locale to login Fedora gdm, all default desktop fonts will use WenQuanYi; 2. When use Traditional Chinese (TC for brief) locale to login Fedora gdm, all default desktop fonts will use UMing. For more details and some other info please read on http://pwu.fedorapeople.org/fonts-conf/README.en and http://pwu.fedorapeople.org/fonts-conf. Needed Changes for this proposal: For UMing/UKai, I removed the following fontconfig confs to avoid conflicts with other confs and do some clean up on this: 35-ttf-arphic-ukai-aliases.conf 35-ttf-arphic-uming-aliases.conf 41-ttf-arphic-ukai.conf 41-ttf-arphic-uming.conf 75-ttf-arphic-ukai-select.conf are removed. and a updated version of 64-ttf-arphic-uming.conf (from http://pwu.fedorapeople.org/fonts-conf/64-ttf-arphic-uming.conf) For wqy-zenhei, some clean up is done on 44-wqy-zenhei.conf (from http://pwu.fedorapeople.org/fonts-conf/44-wqy-zenhei.conf) And 65-wqy-zenhei.conf is renamed to 64-wqy-zenhei.conf, in order to override 65-nonlatin.conf. The new version is from http://pwu.fedorapeople.org/fonts-conf/64-wqy-zenhei.conf. Note: For some unknown reason, the fc-match can't give correct results. But it seems gnome/firefox can choose the right fonts, actually I checked it with : $lsof /usr/share/fonts/*/* Thanks, Peng Wu PS:Please reply to both fedora-fonts and fedora-i18n mailing list. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 14:21:05 +0900 (JST) From: Akira TAGOH <tagoh(a)redhat.com> Subject: Re: Please review another new proposal to improve Chinese fonts choosing in fontconfig. To: pwu(a)redhat.com Cc: cchance(a)redhat.com, i18n(a)lists.fedoraproject.org, fonts(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Message-ID: <20100414.142105.1064195592773204186.tagoh(a)redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>>>> On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 23:17:57 -0400 (EDT), >>>>> "PW" == Peng Wu <pwu(a)redhat.com> wrote: PW> Needed Changes for this proposal: PW> For wqy-zenhei, some clean up is done on 44-wqy-zenhei.conf (from http://pwu.fedorapeople.org/fonts-conf/44-wqy-zenhei.conf) Apparently no explanations about mixing up the upstream numbering policy and ours in the font policy. so just leave it so far. PW> And 65-wqy-zenhei.conf is renamed to 64-wqy-zenhei.conf, in order to override 65-nonlatin.conf. The new version is from http://pwu.fedorapeople.org/fonts-conf/64-wqy-zenhei.conf. Please use 65-n-blahblahblah.conf instead, such as 65-0-wqy-zenhei.conf, to avoid the policy violation. -- Akira TAGOH

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Update on m17n-db and m17n-contrib packages in F14
by Parag Nemade 09 Apr '10

09 Apr '10

FYI, In rawhide(F14), m17n-lib, m17n-db and m17n-contrib packages are updated to their latest upstream releases. We have now removed language specific subpackages to minimize the overhead of maintaining many subpackages. The new packaging now provides less used keymaps in subpackage m17n-{db/contrib}-extras and all other keymaps in main package m17n-db and m17n-contrib. Regards, Parag.

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weekly i18n meeting
by Jens-Ulrik Petersen 07 Apr '10

07 Apr '10

Reminder about the weekly i18n meeting tomorrow: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2010-04-08 Current agenda items include: * FAS i18n-team updated to i-b(a)fp.o (tagoh) * F13 relnotes and bugs o fontconfig binding="same" fixes for f13 (tagoh) o Splitting TC and SC * Fonts o relicensing of Lohit/Liberation?? (pravins) o new Liberation Fonts contributions coming (kaio) * Input Methods o ibus-table and m17n packaging reorganization (kaio,paragan)

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