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[Fedora-infrastructure-list] Quick project for doc's
by Mike McGrath 19 Oct '06

19 Oct '06

Throwing this out there for anyone interested. Karsten (quaid) has requested a script that will compare the packages between two releases. Below is a quick IRC chat we had. I've been busy with other stuff so I won't be able to get to it right away. The idea of coming to us is maintainability. Whatever we end up with will end up in CVS and maintained by us so anyone out there that's good with Perl/Python/XML sign up. Don't take it if you don't have time to do it, I already did that :) Whoever wants it go ahead and reply to the list so everyone knows, and add it to: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Schedule If you need any help let me know and I'll point you in the right direction. -Mike ======== From #fedora-docs =========== [15:16:54] * quaid gets an example [15:17:36] <quaid> http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/release-notes/fc5/#sn-PackageChanges [15:18:06] <quaid> and someone did help with that list, which I just put into a <screen> block [15:19:30] <quaid> so, you can see a bit of the package info in there, and the designation of if it is coming in or out. [15:20:11] <quaid> naturally, it would be cool for it to say what happened to a package leaving, such as going to Extra, but that doesn't seem doable ... that info isn't stored anywhere to extract. [15:20:24] <quaid> so, here is the need, in cascading order: [15:20:29] <mmcgrath> k [15:20:31] <quaid> 1. treediff -> a nice list [15:20:39] <quaid> 2. nice list -> XML list [15:21:06] <quaid> 3. a nice script that can be run somewhere to let a clueless editor do this easily [15:21:10] <quaid> </> [15:21:49] <quaid> we want to put in the set for each test, etc., so it shows the package changes incrementally in that way. [15:23:25] <mmcgrath> I got'cha. [15:23:45] <mmcgrath> So what of that stuff would you like the infrastructure team to do? [15:26:37] <mmcgrath> quaid: I think I'm following you now, you just really want some scripts to do all of this stuff automatically and then stick the results somewhere for you guys to do some final touches. [15:27:34] <quaid> mmcgrath: right, although the results could be a 100% valid XML document (header declaring it as e.g. a 'section'), and we really don't need to anything more than XInclude it. [15:28:45] <quaid> also, a reason for turning to Infrastructure v. cooking it up ourselves in maintainability ... we want something that is part of the formal process and has some support so when e.g. treediff or something changes, the smarts are there to fix it. :) [15:29:57] <mmcgrath> I don't think that will be too much of a problem. We can at least have SOMETHING to you soon. you'll probably have to get back to me a few times about how to fine tune it

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[Fedora-infrastructure-list] when to use OTRS (Was: Re: FESCo, hello? - [was: Re: Buildsys status pages down])
by Thorsten Leemhuis 23 Aug '06

23 Aug '06

Michael Schwendt schrieb: > On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 11:36:58 -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote: >> Error was: [('SSL routines', 'SSL3_READ_BYTES', 'sslv3 alert >> certificate expired'), ('SSL routines', 'SSL3_WRITE_BYTES', 'ssl >> handshake failure')] > > So, would anyone please give a short introduction on when the OTRS > ticketing system ought to be used instead of bugzilla? > [...] > What I'm still missing is the announcement for everyone. Which system do > we use when? Well, don't ask FESCO, let's ask and kick the proper people: fedora-infrastructure(a)redhat.com (CCed) I'd be interested in the answers, too. I don't really like having two systems and would have prepared if we (people outside of the infrastructure group) stick to bugzilla. CU thl

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[Fedora-infrastructure-list] presentation and draft of page https://admin.fedoraproject.org/
by Pasqual Milvaques 12 Aug '06

12 Aug '06

hi people my name is pasqual milvaques, I'm a spanish dba and software developer and I'm going to try to give a hand to you in creating a homepage for the fedora infrastructure project and in other things I can help. I have created a draft for the page which I send attached with this mail. The idea is to have in this page a list of all infrastructure pieces which are being used with their links and some basic information. the draft has not all the links, I will review it to add more links that I have seen in the fedora infrastructure mailing list and (of course) any link you indicate to me. In the next days I will review it and will take deeper look to the wiki to search for more information (all this system is bigger than I expected) and to define the work methodology. well, take a look to the draft as in it you will find some of my doubts (what is docs-rawhide? where is nagios?) and make me any comments you find relevant regards and will be in contact pasqual

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[Fedora-infrastructure-list] Security, access and the config CVS
by Mike McGrath 30 Jul '06

30 Jul '06

So while dgilmore was rebuilding the builders this weekend I realized a couple of things: We need to re-think the cvs situation. Not only have the configs become woefully out of date with whats on the actual builders, but upgrades can become difficult when moving from one OS to another because of incompatibilities. I don't know that we should get rid of all of it just re-think what goes in it or try to simplify it a bit. Maybe write a script that runs daily and compares whats in CVS with what's live? Not perfect but better than what we have. Regardless of what we do with it we need to figure out where to put CVS because not everyone has access to lockbox. I've also been giving more thought to the security/access issue. While re-doing the accounting system we need to think about ways to increase security while lowering the barrier for entry to help support Fedora's infrastructure. We can add much of this to the current accounting system for testing for when the new system gets built but I'd like input on this from current infrastructure people and those that aren't as active but are interested in participating more. Which brings me to restarting the topic of officers/leaders/sponsors/whatever. By creating more fine-grained security on the servers there is less of a need for root access on those machines. People interested in working on mail, will be in a mail group and have access to it. Nagios, web, proxy, builders, cvs, etc, all come to mind of things that can be administered without full root access. So the question is how do we determine who has root to what boxes? Should we pick some leaders of Red Hat engineers and community members to have full root? If so should it be of a set number, similar to the FESCo? I lean towards this setup because it allows more people to participate sooner (without having to prove themselves as much) but it will keep those with full root access to the box low. Lot of stuff for one email but it would be nice to get a lot of this figured out before the next meeting so it doesn't run too long :-D -Mike

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[Fedora-infrastructure-list] help with bug 198109 ("initialcclist" in owners.list is not propagating to Bugzilla)
by Thorsten Leemhuis 30 Jul '06

30 Jul '06

Hi All! Is there anyone besides Sopwith (is he still around or already on vacation?) who can help fix bug 198109? Seems the "initialcclist" in owners.list is not propagating to Bugzilla. That blocks proper co-maintainership in Extras. CU thl

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[Fedora-infrastructure-list] ppc1
by Dennis Gilmore 29 Jul '06

29 Jul '06

Hi All, We are currently working on rebuilding ppc1 Please do not try and power cycle it or do anything with or to it until it is rebuilt. Regards Dennis

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[Fedora-infrastructure-list] New OTRS Queue: Update System
by Mike McGrath 28 Jul '06

28 Jul '06

I've added a new OTRS queue for the Update System. Any users wishing to monitor and aid in troubleshooting Update System problems should add this queue to their "my queues" section in OTRS. -Mike

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[Fedora-infrastructure-list] Today's Meeting
by Jeffrey Tadlock 27 Jul '06

27 Jul '06

I will be out of town when our meeting occurs today, so I will be unable to make it. I will catch up via the irc logs. Thanks, Jeffrey a.k.a. iWolf

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[Fedora-infrastructure-list] Builders reinstall
by Dennis Gilmore 21 Jul '06

21 Jul '06

Hey guys, Im preparing to reinstall the extras builders. I'm after the details and whereabouts of the kickstart files that were previously used. they will be getting fc5 installed on them all. Regards Dennis

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[Fedora-infrastructure-list] Log from today's meeting - 2006-07-20
by Elliot Lee 20 Jul '06

20 Jul '06

Here it is. Thanks for everyone who made it out! -- Elliot

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