infrastructure June 2008

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Need a hand...
by Mike McGrath 05 Jul '08

05 Jul '08

Anyone in the sysadmin-hosted group able to work on this project? https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/508 -Mike

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Advice on deploying wsgi app using jsonfas
by Robin Norwood 01 Jul '08

01 Jul '08

Hi, So I'm working to get amber packaged and deployable as a wsgi app so I can run a demo on publictest10. I've made pretty fair progress getting things up and running (on my local system first to make sure it works), but I've run into an issue. For the setup, I'm basically ripping off the way Ricky Zhou set up fas wholesale. I have an amber.conf file in /etc/httpd/conf.d, which refers to an amber.wsgi file. All of that seems to work fine. The problem happens when I try to connect. I get a 500 error with the following in httpd's error log: Unable to write to session file /var/www/.fedora_session: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/www/.fedora_session' Well, it turns out that this is because my app is using jsonfas, which uses fedora.client.BaseClient. In fedora/client/__init__.py, I find: SESSION_FILE = path.join(path.expanduser('~'), '.fedora_session') Which explains the error - my app is running under apache, and while /var/www is apache's homedir, apache can't write to that directory. So, as anyone else worked around this with another turbogears app running under wsgi and using jsonfas? Since turbogears and fas are both pretty common, it seems likely that someone here has already dealt with this. Thanks, -RN -- Robin Norwood Red Hat, Inc. "The Sage does nothing, yet nothing remains undone." -Lao Tzu, Te Tao Ching

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Mirror bandwidth and user redirection
by Matt Domsch 30 Jun '08

30 Jun '08

Tonight I deployed a slight update to MirrorManager that I'd been wanting to do for a while. The basic selection algorithm for choosing the order in which to return mirrors to clients remains the same: prefer same netblocks, internet2 in same country if on internet2, same country, same continent, then global, in that order. However, until now, faster mirrors (those with larger bandwidths) were returned with equal probability as slower mirrors. This means not enough traffic was being sent to our gigabit-connected mirrors, and too much traffic was being sent to our slower mirrors. Each mirror's bandwidth value is now used as a weight. Mirrors with larger bandwidth will have a a higher probability of being returned earlier in the mirrorlist selection. Slower mirrors can still be returned as the first mirrorlist selection because this is based on probabilities, but should not be overwhelmed anymore. For countries with fewer mirrors, such as India, where there's some relatively fast mirrors, and several relatively slower mirrors, this should mean that users will more often get directed to the faster mirrors. Thanks, Matt Fedora Mirror Wrangler -- Matt Domsch Linux Technology Strategist, Dell Office of the CTO linux.dell.com & www.dell.com/linux

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Request for hosting resource
by Robin Norwood 28 Jun '08

28 Jun '08

Hi, I've been working (with lots of help from Toshio and Luke) on the Amber project (Fedora Application Database) for a few weeks now, and I'm getting perilously close to the point where it would be useful to have a public place to host a proof-of-concept style demo site. It is a turbogears app (with sqlalchemy, genshi and (soon) postresql). Does the fedora infrastructure group have resources for this kind of thing? IOW, is there a spare F9 box or virtual instance I can borrow, along the same lines as publictest10? Thanks, -RN -- Robin Norwood Red Hat, Inc. "The Sage does nothing, yet nothing remains undone." -Lao Tzu, Te Tao Ching

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Fedora TV Submission Form - PHP
by Jonathan Roberts 28 Jun '08

28 Jun '08

I've opened this as a ticket in trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/633 with the php file attached. Thoughts and feed back is appreciated... Best, Jon ---------------- We've created a channel in Miro, Fedora TV, for use by the marketing team with things like screencast tutorials/video interviews etc and we want to make it easy for community people to submit their content. To do this, we planned to create a simple web form that collects the users' data (Name, e-mail, video URL etc) and then sends that off to an e-mail address. This e-mail address could either belong to a single editor or a mailing list (the latter is preferred), so that we can check it's relevant before adding it to the main channel feed for all the world to see. We have a simple script in PHP to collect this form information and e-mail it, and providing people don't think there are better approaches to this, we would like to get it hosted so that we can use it on Fedora Websites. Feedback and help is appreciated :) ----------------

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Fedoranews.org - Old blog still online
by Gianluca Varisco 27 Jun '08

27 Jun '08

Hi guys, Due to FedoraNews [ http://fedoranews.org/blog/ ] old blog platform still public, I think that would be better to update it (actually using a very old version of WordPress released on June 29th 2005: 1.5.1.3) or put it off-line. The reasons? # http://secunia.com/product/3978/?task=advisories # 1.5.x branch is unmaintained, as it's the legacy 2.0. I'm CC:ing Thomas Chung, as he's also the domain maintainer. Best Regards, -- Gianluca Varisco, RHCE Intern - Web Engineering, Red Hat Italia Tel.: +39 02 5681 4487 Fax : +39 02 669 3111 Cel.: +39 333 574 0934 Address/Indirizzo: Via Antonio Da Recanate 1 20124 Milano

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Meeting Log - 2008-06-26
by Ricky Zhou 26 Jun '08

26 Jun '08

16:04 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Who's here? 16:04 < ivazquez> Pong. 16:04 < mmcgrath> ok, who's around? 16:04 * ianweller 16:04 * iWolf 16:04 * Anvil goes sleeping 16:04 -!- Anvil [n=anvil@fedora/Anvil] has left #fedora-meeting [] 16:04 * pembo13 is just a bystander 16:05 * ricky 16:05 < mmcgrath> Ok, lets get started 16:05 < G> I'm here 16:05 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Tickets 16:05 < mmcgrath> .tiny https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/query?status=new&status=assi… 16:05 < zodbot> mmcgrath: http://tinyurl.com/47e37y 16:06 < mmcgrath> .ticket 395 16:06 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #395 (Audio Streaming of Fedora Board Conference Calls) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/395 16:06 < mmcgrath> jcollie: did I read you right earlier, this is mostly ready but not yet in Fedora? 16:07 < jcollie> um 16:07 < mmcgrath> or were you talking about ice cast and I just wasn't paying attention? 16:07 < jcollie> i was using a newer version of flumotion than whats in flumotion 16:07 * f13 16:07 < jcollie> no i'm not using ice cast 16:07 < mmcgrath> k 16:07 < mmcgrath> so whats our plan for flumotion then? 16:08 < jcollie> i've got a little one line script that faked asterisk into thinking it's talking to ice cast 16:08 < ianweller> wait, why are we not using icecast? 16:08 < jcollie> flumotion is way cooler 16:09 < ianweller> i guess i'll just take your word for it. 16:09 < ianweller> :P 16:09 * ricky wonders if herlo knows about this stuff as well 16:09 < mmcgrath> jcollie: so whats our plan for implementation going forward? can we use EPEL or do we have to use the infrastructure repo? 16:09 < ricky> (He was the person with the streaming setup at FUDCon) 16:09 < jcollie> i need to build the rpms for flumotion and get them into the infra repo... eventually fedora proper will catch up 16:09 < jcollie> .whoowns flumotion 16:09 < zodbot> jcollie: thomasvs 16:09 < ianweller> i was just about to do that. 16:09 < ianweller> heh 16:10 < SmootherFrOgZ> jcollie: fedora should 16:10 -!- Sonar_Gal [n=Andrea(a)dpc6744130021.direcpc.com] has quit Connection timed out 16:10 < SmootherFrOgZ> and then go to epel as well 16:10 < mmcgrath> jcollie: k, if you wouldn't mind, contact thomasvs and let him know what we're up to and that we'd like to get that all figured out. 16:10 < jcollie> we should talk to thomasvs about updates... i was using a prerelease version because the released version is quite old 16:10 < mmcgrath> anything else there? 16:11 < jcollie> we need to get some nice ways of provisioning conference rooms and controlling the audio streams 16:11 < mmcgrath> yeah, conference rooms in the config file is inconvenient. 16:11 < jcollie> yeah inconvenient and error-prone possibly 16:12 < mmcgrath> side note, 98 people have enabled their voip extensions. 16:12 -!- bpepple|lt [n=bpepple|(a)ppp-71-137-208-242.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net] has joined #fedora-meeting 16:12 < ricky> :-) 16:12 < mmcgrath> jcollie: ok, anything else? 16:12 < jcollie> plus would be good to figure out a way to dial them in the directory 16:12 < SmootherFrOgZ> and what about stun, anything new ? 16:12 < mmcgrath> SmootherFrOgZ: we've just been telling people that need it to use stunserver.org 16:12 < ricky> Aren't there free online stun servers? 16:13 < jcollie> in addition to standard open conference room we need to figure out how best to do a closed room for the board 16:13 < jcollie> stun.ekiga.net and stunserver.org work well 16:13 < SmootherFrOgZ> nice 16:13 < mmcgrath> jcollie: yeah, and that will likely need a rotating password since they can have different people each week join 16:13 < SmootherFrOgZ> need to be edit on talk.fp.org 16:13 < jcollie> i think that stunserver.org will even let you CNAME to something like stun.fedoraproject.org 16:14 < mmcgrath> SmootherFrOgZ: its there - http://talk.fedoraproject.org/usage 16:14 < jcollie> either rotating passwords or some sort of invitation system 16:14 < mmcgrath> <nod> 16:14 < mmcgrath> jcollie: anything else? 16:14 < jcollie> i think that's it 16:15 < mmcgrath> solid 16:15 < mmcgrath> next ticket 16:15 < mmcgrath> .ticket 398 16:15 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #398 (elfutils `monotone' (mtn) error) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/398 16:15 < mmcgrath> monotone and fedorahosted. 16:15 < mmcgrath> AFAIK this is blocking on people and things that just don't care that much about it. 16:15 < jcollie> no gnus is good gnus? 16:15 < mmcgrath> I should probably remove it it from the meeting list at least. 16:15 < Bouska> bye 16:15 -!- Bouska [n=Pablo(a)ip-213-49-228-244.dsl.scarlet.be] has left #fedora-meeting [] 16:16 < jcollie> yeah i think that we limit monotone to elfutils until it gets sorted out 16:16 < mmcgrath> jcollie: that shouldn't be too hard ;) 16:16 < mmcgrath> ok 16:16 < ricky> Hehe 16:16 < G> jcollie: I was going to say thata :P 16:16 < jcollie> any new requests need to use something else 16:16 < mmcgrath> .ticket 446 16:16 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #446 (Possibility to add external links on spins page) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/446 16:16 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: anything on the spins page? its 4 months old :-P 16:17 * mmcgrath thinks dgilmore might be away while he's traveling today 16:17 < mmcgrath> we'll move on 16:17 < f13> he's not traveling yet 16:17 < mmcgrath> .ticket 547 16:17 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #547 (Koji DB Server as postgres 8.3) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/547 16:17 < SmootherFrOgZ> ho wait 16:18 < G> mmcgrath: are the servers arriving? 16:18 < SmootherFrOgZ> could we have on the spins list, the french one, built by some french contributor ? 16:18 < mmcgrath> So the new db server has shipped and should be in PHX now. I'm planning another trip out in July to get it installed and hopefully remove the old servers. 16:18 < G> mmcgrath: that includes the two app servers? 16:18 < ricky> Old servesr? 16:18 < ricky> **servers 16:18 < mmcgrath> G: it does. 16:18 < ricky> As in, we're retiring old builders, I guess? 16:18 < iWolf> mmmm PHX in July - hot! 16:19 < mmcgrath> ricky: yeah, lockbox, db1 and probably proxy1 are going to go bye bye. 16:19 < G> mmcgrath: brilliant, holla if you need any assistance 16:19 < ricky> Ah, cool 16:19 < mmcgrath> ricky: I might just let the builders die horribly on their own. 16:19 < mmcgrath> G: will do. 16:19 < ricky> Heh 16:19 < mmcgrath> SmootherFrOgZ: not sure what you mean by "the french one" But you should talk to the spins list people. 16:19 < G> mmcgrath: sounds like a plain :) 16:19 < G> *plan 16:19 < mmcgrath> .ticket 576 16:19 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #576 (Infrastructure Contact Information) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/576 16:19 < mmcgrath> G: whats up with that? 16:20 -!- pembo13 [n=chatzill(a)CPE-24-163-204-124.kc.res.rr.com] has left #fedora-meeting [] 16:20 < G> I've got nothing set in stone, I still like the idea of something away from Fedora People though 16:20 < G> I'll try and work something out for next meeting 16:21 < mmcgrath> G: I guess my only take on that is that right now we have nothing and it's more of a "it'd be nice to have something" 16:22 < G> more it'd be good to have something 16:22 < mmcgrath> but if that something needs to be maintained, backed up, etc with no other benefit... then it's probably not worth it. 16:22 < mmcgrath> we could use a crypted filesystem 16:22 * ricky is perfectly fine with a single text file put in some good place with proper permissions. 16:23 < mmcgrath> ricky: well there's other stuff I'd like to put there like the inventory for example 16:23 < G> yeah, I'm still thinking along the lines of a sysadmin1 box or something where we can do all our sqling from etc 16:23 < ricky> Ah, yeah. 16:23 -!- fugolini1 [n=francesc(a)host250-207-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit Connection timed out 16:23 < mmcgrath> G: eh, sqling is a pretty rare thing, and should probably be done from a pre-existing box like noc1 16:23 < G> mmcgrath: yeah, I just thought of that one moments ago 16:24 < G> it was just with the elections app, still a little bit of manual legwork (to be corrected) 16:24 < mmcgrath> G: needless to say, still working on it and thinking about options? 16:24 < G> yep 16:24 < mmcgrath> solid, we'll move to the next ticket 16:24 < mmcgrath> .ticket 361 16:24 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #361 (fedorahosted.org default trac header logo/location icon) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/361 16:24 < G> Too big imo 16:25 < mmcgrath> paulobanon: you around? 16:25 < mmcgrath> jcollie: I see you put this in the Meeting request. 16:25 < ricky> Is that legal logo usage? 16:25 < ricky> ianweller: ^^ 16:25 < ianweller> what is 16:25 < ianweller> 361? 16:25 < ricky> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService#Fedora_hosted_logo 16:25 < G> It's not going to make a very nice favicon.ico and it's just going to bloat the header part of trac 16:25 < jcollie> yeah, i was hoping it was something we could dispose of quickly 16:26 * mmcgrath sees if the miz is around 16:26 < ianweller> ricky: afaik, no. 16:26 < ricky> Yeah, that's what I was thinking :-( it looked cool, though 16:26 < jcollie> hmm yeah, the colors, etc 16:26 < mmcgrath> Do we want a square up there? 16:26 -!- mizmo [n=duffy@nat/redhat-us/x-3ca53765208ce0f1] has joined #fedora-meeting 16:26 < mizmo> hi 16:27 < ricky> mizmo: Hey, we were discussing: 16:27 < mmcgrath> mizmo: we're talking about 16:27 < jcollie> in general though what do people think of a fedorahosted logo instead of the default trac logo? 16:27 < ricky> .ticket 261 16:27 < zodbot> ricky: #261 (Expired SSL certificate on https://cvs.fedoraproject.org) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/261 16:27 < mmcgrath> .ticket 361 16:27 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #361 (fedorahosted.org default trac header logo/location icon) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/361 16:27 < ricky> Oops, what mmcgrath said :-) 16:27 < ianweller> ricky: fail! :P 16:27 < mizmo> oh i did onwe 16:27 -!- roguedaemon [n=rogued(a)cpe-66-67-45-197.rochester.res.rr.com] has left #fedora-meeting ["<thunk>"] 16:27 < mizmo> i did a logo for fedora hosted a while back 16:27 < mmcgrath> do we want a square up there? 16:27 < mizmo> lesse if i can find it 16:28 < G> mmcgrath: my point before exactly 16:28 < mizmo> it would be nicer than the trac logo wouldnt it 16:28 < ianweller> mizmo: we were wondering if http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService#Fedora_hosted_logo did not follow the logo usage guidelines 16:28 < ianweller> which i'm pretty sure it doesn't 16:28 < mizmo> ianweller, nope it doesnt 16:28 < mizmo> oh thats weird 16:28 < mizmo> i did a logo before that request was filled 16:29 < mmcgrath> mizmo: did it vanish in the migration? 16:29 < mizmo> mmcgrath, could be im still looking 16:30 -!- sdziallas [n=sebastia(a)p57A2C6C4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit "Ex-Chat" 16:31 < mizmo> found it 16:31 < mizmo> http://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/0/03/Artwork_PromoBanners_fedora-hosted-… 16:31 < ricky> Ahh. 16:32 < mmcgrath> G: ianweller: ricky: what do we think of that one? 16:32 < mizmo> (just the logo + HOSTED text) 16:32 < G> mizmo: now thats okay! 16:32 < mizmo> (don't need the garden bg that was for the banner to display in the upper left of FPO) 16:32 < ricky> Heh, I like the garden analogy. 16:33 < G> mizmo: thats wonderful (nice and simple) 16:33 < jcollie> i like it except for the "introducing..." 16:33 < mizmo> if you like it maybe we could use the garden graphics somehow 16:33 < G> yeah the introducing is wrong 16:33 < mizmo> jcollie, oh yeh that text wouldn't be there, the logo is part of a banner design i did for FPO 16:33 -!- fchiulli [i=824c4011(a)gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a4a5f7cd4e701430] has left #fedora-meeting [] 16:33 < ricky> Does that take any attention away from the name of the project itself, though? 16:33 < f13> hrm, is the 'start a $foo, watch it grow' really close to a slogan for some other product? 16:33 < dgilmore> im here 16:34 < f13> ricky: well, each project can have their own logo 16:34 < mizmo> ricky, i'd think projects would use it as a placeholder until they got their own logo 16:34 < G> f13: hmmm? 16:34 < f13> we're just talking about a default one. 16:34 < SmootherFrOgZ> f13: +1 16:34 < f13> G: the 'watch it grow' seems very familiar 16:34 < mizmo> f13, is this a trivia quiz? let me guess 16:34 < mmcgrath> f13: a Chia Pet? 16:34 < mizmo> start a ninja, watch him nunchuck? 16:34 < mmcgrath> Cha Cha Cha Chia 16:34 < f13> I don't think it was even that. 16:34 < stickster> mmcgrath: That's watch it grow 16:34 < f13> but don't mind me. 16:35 < mizmo> hehe 16:35 < G> f13: I don't think it's used in the computing circles 16:35 < stickster> mmcgrath: Do you use compost with Chia Pets? 16:35 < mmcgrath> ok, so whats the plan for this ticket? 16:35 < mmcgrath> stickster: no but I should, I really should. 16:35 < ricky> Haha, I almost got fooled when I saw "foss" in this URL: http://www.fossweb.com/modulesK-2/NewPlants/index.html 16:35 < mizmo> "Help Farmer Jane plant your garden, and watch it grow!" 16:36 < f13> don't worry about it 16:36 < mmcgrath> mizmo: do you have the source for that image available somewhere or would you mind making whatever changes we need directly? 16:36 < mizmo> mmcgrath, i do, and i would be happy to make whatever changes you need 16:37 < mmcgrath> solid 16:37 < mmcgrath> ianweller: ricky: do either one of you want to take ownership of that ticket and make it so? 16:37 * ianweller wakes up 16:37 < ianweller> which ticket? 16:37 -!- spoleeba [n=one@fedora/Jef] has quit "Leaving" 16:37 < mmcgrath> .ticket 361 16:37 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #361 (fedorahosted.org default trac header logo/location icon) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/361 16:38 < mmcgrath> sounds like mizmo is willing to make whatever changes we want, then we just need to get it on the host. 16:38 < ricky> Sure thing - it'll just be a line or two of puppet changes. 16:38 * ianweller pushes it to ricky then :P 16:38 < mizmo> so ill make it so it's just the logo with maybe some plants next to it? 16:38 < ricky> I'm already getting mail on that ticket, so I'll keep an eye out for it once we get the image 16:38 < mizmo> and take out the slogan and introducing text? 16:38 < ianweller> keep the 'start a project. watch it grow' 16:39 < mizmo> okay 16:39 < ianweller> i'd say make it probably more wide, less height... 16:39 < mmcgrath> excellent, so anything else on that for this meeting or can we move on? 16:39 < ricky> mizmo: Sure - whatever you think works for the top banner on a hosted site 16:40 < jcollie> sounds good to me 16:40 < mmcgrath> mizmo: thanks for stopping in! Most helpful :) 16:40 < mmcgrath> next ticket 16:40 < mmcgrath> .ticket 447 16:40 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #447 (Downloading binary files via trac browser creates a traceback) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/447 16:40 < mmcgrath> err not that one 16:40 < mmcgrath> .ticket 448 16:40 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #448 (Hosting request for fedora-quotes) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/448 16:40 * ricky pinged ajax in #fedora-devel 16:41 -!- ajax [n=ajackson@nat/redhat-us/x-b358f9cb34bb6880] has joined #fedora-meeting 16:41 < ricky> We spoke about this briefly at FUDCon. 16:41 < ricky> ajax: Hey, we were talking about: 16:41 < ricky> .ticket 448 16:41 < zodbot> ricky: #448 (Hosting request for fedora-quotes) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/448 16:41 < ricky> (Woo, I got it that time!) 16:41 < mmcgrath> so we want a quotes repo of some kind? 16:41 < ajax> well, we have one 16:41 < ajax> the problem is the group it belongs to. 16:41 < ricky> So yeah, we spoke about this a bit at FUDCon, but I don't 100% remember the conclusion (was it just to use fedorapeople?) 16:42 * ianweller wrote a qdb software at one time, but its in php 16:42 * mmcgrath pokes on hosted1 real quick. 16:42 < mizmo> mmcgrath, np 16:42 < ricky> Right now, it's a gitfedora-quotes 16:42 -!- mizmo [n=duffy@nat/redhat-us/x-3ca53765208ce0f1] has left #fedora-meeting ["Leaving"] 16:42 < ajax> the account system requires that joining a group is apply-then-approve. 16:42 < jcollie> we could change membership to cla_done... 16:42 < ajax> there's no way to just add yourself to a group and have it take effect 16:42 < ricky> jcollie: That would require giving everybody in cla_done SSH stuff on hosted1 16:42 < mmcgrath> ah 16:42 < mmcgrath> doesn't fedorabugs do that? 16:43 < ricky> jcollie: (and making cla_done a git group) 16:43 < jcollie> ricky: hmm ok that's bad then 16:43 < mmcgrath> ricky: we could have it owned by cla_done 16:43 < mmcgrath> that'd at least let everyone with an account already to have access. 16:43 < f13> you should be able create a group that doesn't require sponsorship 16:43 < ricky> We do have autojoin stuff working, but it'd still have everybody in cla_done on hosted1 16:43 < G> cla_done as a git group, no thank you 16:43 < ricky> That's what we wanted - something where anybody can get in, but only if they take some action 16:43 < G> that'd be as bad having cla_done requiring some git group which we had already :) 16:43 < ajax> f13: sponsorship groups require that a sponsor approve. non-sponsorship groups require that some other member approve. 16:44 < ajax> any other member. 16:44 < f13> ajax: blah 16:44 < jcollie> ricky: looks like everyone already has ssh on hosted1 16:44 < mmcgrath> The thing is that opens us up to abuse. 16:44 < ricky> ajax: non-sponsorship just means that the sponsorship isn't recorded. 16:44 < ricky> It's a minute difference 16:44 < ricky> But yeah, this is why I suggested fedorapeople :-) 16:44 < ajax> awesome. 16:44 < ricky> Ahhh! 16:45 < mmcgrath> the theory being that a sponsor is responsible for the person they sponsored. 16:45 < jcollie> well, since it's a git repo it'd be pretty easy to undo any vandalism 16:45 -!- sharkcz [n=dan(a)plz1-v-4-17.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit "Ukončuji" 16:45 < ricky> That's what we said - have a repo in fedorapeople that everybody can push to, then you can push from there to the fedorahosted project. 16:45 < mmcgrath> jcollie: is it though? 16:45 < mmcgrath> jcollie: if I stuck a bunch of child porn into one of our repos... how would you get rid of it? 16:45 < ajax> so yeah, my options are a world-pushable repo on fp.o that i pull from every once in a while, or i just continue to have to approve people. 16:46 < mmcgrath> ricky: hell, we could just make a repo on fedorahosted and make it world writable. 16:46 < ajax> mmcgrath: you _can_ push git trees that delete objects. it breaks people that already pulled them, but git isn't an append-only operation. 16:46 < ricky> mmcgrath: And give everybody in cla_done ssh on hosted1? 16:46 < mmcgrath> ajax: k 16:46 < mmcgrath> ricky: not sure yet. 16:46 < mmcgrath> I'd rather not 16:46 < mmcgrath> jeremy: you around? 16:46 < ricky> Yeah, that was my objection 16:46 * mmcgrath wonders if git:// can be configured for write 16:47 < jcollie> no it cant i don't think 16:47 < ricky> I'm pretty sure it can't be (but I could be wrong) 16:47 < G> mmcgrath: git+https? 16:47 < mmcgrath> eh 16:47 < jcollie> well, why don't we use a model more like the kernel? 16:47 < ricky> That's pretty much what I was suggesting 16:47 < mmcgrath> jcollie: what model is that? 16:47 -!- tibbs_ [n=tibbs@fedora/tibbs] has quit "Konversation terminated!" 16:48 < jcollie> where the main repo is controlled by ajax and people email him links to their repo thats hosted wherever they want 16:48 < ricky> well, except kind of in reverse 16:48 < ajax> i'm okay with it being "only people with fedora accounts" instead of "anyone in the world" 16:48 < ricky> I was eliminating one step y having people push to ajax's repo, the ajax pushing to the "main" fedorahosted one 16:48 < ajax> truly-world-writable is more than i'm asking for and probably not a good idea. 16:48 < mmcgrath> jcollie: we can do that but it shifts some burden onto ajax 16:49 < ajax> ... which is the whole thing i'm trying to avoid ;) 16:49 < ricky> Ah. 16:49 < mmcgrath> so how about this for now. 16:49 < ajax> if i'm going to have two repos, i might as well just do the sponsorship thing like i'm already doing. 16:49 < ricky> The simplest solution that I can think of is: cla_done-writable main repo on fedorapeople.org 16:49 < ricky> That gets you everything except for the git.fedorahosted.org URL 16:50 < mmcgrath> ricky: that seems reasonable. 16:50 < ajax> (and therefore gitweb. but sure.) 16:50 < mmcgrath> ajax: if we stick this thing somewhere other then fedorahosted will that be ok with you? 16:50 < mmcgrath> ajax: actually jeremy just got gitweb and git:// working on people1 IIRC. 16:50 < mmcgrath> just this week 16:50 < ricky> ajax: jeremy set that up recently :-0 16:51 < ricky> **:-) 16:51 < ajax> oh sweet. 16:51 < jcollie> jeremy has gitweb running on fedorapeople now 16:51 < ajax> that's why he was asking how we did it on fd.o then. 16:51 < ajax> i'm dumb 16:51 * ricky laughs at the quotes 16:51 < mmcgrath> ajax: think that solution will work for now at least? 16:51 < G> ajax: can we quote that one? 16:51 < ricky> (https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-quotes/browser/fedora-quotes) 16:51 < mmcgrath> it seems like with as open as we are we'd be able to do something _that_ open :) 16:52 < ricky> G: Hahaa 16:52 < ajax> mmcgrath: sure. go ahead and drop it from fh.o whenever, i've got a clone on my laptop i can push to fp.o 16:53 < mmcgrath> ajax: k, you should be able to acl it any way you want. If your space runs out let us know and we'll re-think our quota system there. 16:53 < mmcgrath> currently ols is doing something similar though (with fedorapeople) 16:53 < mmcgrath> ok, we're almost out of time so I'm just going to open the floor for the next 8 minutes or so 16:53 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Open Floor 16:53 < mmcgrath> anyone have anything to discuss 16:53 < G> yeah, I had two things to discuss 16:53 < mmcgrath> G: didn't you have something? 16:53 < jcollie> hmm 150Mb should be a lot for just quotes 16:54 -!- ajax [n=ajackson@nat/redhat-us/x-b358f9cb34bb6880] has left #fedora-meeting [] 16:54 < jcollie> maybe we could set up a "quotes" user so it gets its own 105MB quota? 16:54 < G> a) l10n wikis are nearly really trying to coordinate with everyone re that 16:54 < mmcgrath> G: whats the link to how that setup is going to work again? 16:55 < G> mmcgrath: theres a bit in my gitweb on fp.o 16:55 < G> .tiny http://fedorapeople.org/gitweb?p=nigelj/public_git/stuff.git;a=tree;f=wiki/… 16:55 < zodbot> G: http://tinyurl.com/3umdyn 16:55 < ricky> http://katzj.livejournal.com/430978.html 16:55 < G> https://publictest10.fedoraproject.org/en/wiki/ is the test wiki 16:55 < ricky> Oop, ajax disappeared :-/ 16:56 < mmcgrath> G: also, side note, our *.fedoraproject.org deal should be ready soon. 16:56 < mmcgrath> do we want to wait and do it that way? 16:56 < ianweller> mmcgrath: with ssl certs? 16:56 * ianweller afk now 16:56 -!- mcleanj [n=mcleanj@nat/redhat/x-d1e8e560a82dfc05] has left #fedora-meeting [] 16:56 < ricky> Wooo :-) 16:56 < mmcgrath> ianweller: yeah 16:56 < mmcgrath> I think they got ordered today 16:56 < G> _b_) sysadmin-noc stuff, we have ~10 members, but nothing is happening there so I'm going to send out some e-mails with stuff that needs to be done 16:57 < mmcgrath> G: excellent, do you have sponsorship status in sysadmin-noc? 16:57 < G> mmcgrath: yep 16:57 < G> we have at least TEN new hosts that aren't tracked in nagios 16:57 < mmcgrath> G: k, one thing thats almost ready is log1, and I'm working to make sure that read access is setup properly. 16:57 < mmcgrath> G: thanks for taking lead on that. I was hoping someone would step up :) 16:57 < G> and a handful of requests on fedorahosted that havn't seen any action 16:58 < jcollie> be nice to get asterisk1 monitored 16:58 < G> mmcgrath: need to speak to you about cacti 16:58 < ricky> Oh yeah. 16:58 < G> jcollie: yeah, thats the sort of things 16:58 < mmcgrath> G: no doubt. In my mind cacti is less important now then it was but still important. 16:58 < mmcgrath> jcollie: yeah, and collab1. 16:59 < mmcgrath> G: ok, so I'm excited to see that going, if you need anything from me, just ping. 16:59 < jcollie> i've tried to keep up on the new project requests on hosted but haven't looked much at the rest of the hosted tickets 16:59 < G> exactly, there is definately more than 10 hosts untracked 16:59 < G> (I know that because there are eight new builders :)) 16:59 -!- wfp [n=wfp5p(a)viridian.itc.Virginia.EDU] has quit "Leaving" 16:59 < G> mmcgrath: whats the status on the ppc builders btw? 16:59 < ricky> PPC = no virt, right? 16:59 < mmcgrath> G: good question, dgilmore was going to handle it but I know he's had problems. 17:00 < mmcgrath> ricky: correct, and actually we didn't virt the x86 boxes either. 17:00 < G> mmcgrath: and finally, when do you expect the *.fp.o SSL cert? 17:00 < ricky> Ah. 17:00 < mmcgrath> G: I'd be surprised it it took more then a week or two at this point. My understanding is that verisign has the request now. 17:00 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: ill try again today. i got access but did not have java installed 17:00 < mmcgrath> ahh 17:00 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: k. 17:00 < dgilmore> when i installed java firefox wouldnt start 17:00 < mmcgrath> ok, and with that. we are at the end of our time. 17:01 < mmcgrath> If no one has anything pressing we'll end the meeting in 30 17:01 < G> sounds fine by me 17:01 < mmcgrath> 15 17:01 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Meeting End 17:01 < mmcgrath> thanks for coming everyone!

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syntax colouring on the wiki
by Yaakov Nemoy 26 Jun '08

26 Jun '08

Hey List, Is there any chance the new wiki can do syntax hilighting and colouring for source code. I presume it would look something like this: <pre style='Python'> def foo(bar, baz): return bar + baz </pre> -Yaakov

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24 Jun '08

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Re: Mike is not Vacationing
by Mike McGrath 22 Jun '08

22 Jun '08

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