infrastructure September 2008

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Meeting Log - 2008-09-25
by Ricky Zhou 25 Sep '08

25 Sep '08

20:00 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Who's here? 20:00 * ricky 20:01 -!- cassmodiah [n=cass@fedora/cassmodiah] has quit "שָׁלוֹם" 20:01 * mmcgrath wonders if anyone else is 20:01 < fchiulli> fchiulli is lurking 20:02 < mmcgrath> abadger1999 dgilmore f13 fchiulli G jcollie lmacken marek ping? 20:02 < brothers> hi 20:02 < mmcgrath> brothers: yo 20:02 < dgilmore> gday mates 20:02 * lmacken 20:02 < fchiulli> mmcgrath: pong 20:02 < abadger1999> hola 20:02 < mmcgrath> yo 20:02 < mmcgrath> ok, lets get started 20:02 -!- skvidal [n=nnnnnnsk@fedora/skvidal] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:03 * jcollie will lurk a bit... got some $DAYJOB stuff to do in the background 20:03 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Tickets 20:03 < mmcgrath> .tiny https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/query?status=new&status=assi… 20:03 < zodbot> mmcgrath: http://tinyurl.com/2hyyz6 20:03 < mmcgrath> .ticket 753 20:03 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #753 (Mini-freeze for Fedora 10 beta) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/753 20:03 < mmcgrath> So the freeze is still on until... 20:03 -!- balor [n=balor(a)gimili.plus.com] has quit Remote closed the connection 20:03 < mmcgrath> 2008-09-30 20:04 < mmcgrath> nothing extrodinary there. 20:04 < mmcgrath> Does anyone have work thats blocking on that release? 20:04 < mmcgrath> I know domsch might have some MM stuff, not totally sure though 20:04 < mmcgrath> k, I'll move on then 20:04 < mmcgrath> .ticket 395 20:04 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #395 (Audio Streaming of Fedora Board Conference Calls) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/395 20:04 < abadger1999> bunch of little stuff. I'm working on other stuff until then 20:05 < mmcgrath> <nod> 20:05 < mmcgrath> jcollie: anything new on this front? 20:05 < jcollie> nope 20:05 < mmcgrath> k 20:05 < mmcgrath> .ticket 446 20:05 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #446 (Possibility to add external links on spins page) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/446 20:05 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: ^^^ 20:05 < dgilmore> nope i think it should be closed 20:06 < mmcgrath> k, if you're ready to close it have at it. 20:06 * nokia3510 says hello 20:06 < mmcgrath> .ticket 740 20:06 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #740 (Loaning out system time to OLPC participants) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/740 20:06 * mmcgrath looks at ticket to see if anything new is there. 20:06 < dgilmore> here i really dont know if we can provide what they want 20:07 < mmcgrath> so my last question there never really got answered. 20:07 < mmcgrath> gregdek: ping 20:07 < gregdek> mmcgrath: pong 20:07 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: do you know if their end goal is education or if their end goal is packages 20:07 < gregdek> Oh, trac ticket. 20:07 -!- mdomsch [n=Matt_Dom(a)cpe-70-124-62-55.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:07 < mmcgrath> gregdek: we're talkinga bout https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/740 20:07 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: not really sure. i think both 20:07 < mmcgrath> k 20:08 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: do you think we could point them to SuSE's open buildsystem? 20:08 < mmcgrath> I have a reasonably good relationship with those guys, not sure if they'd be interested or not. 20:08 < gregdek> aiui, the biggest problem is they've got participants who are being asked to build packages for OLPC, but they don't have Fedora systems, only Debian systems. And they end up doing weird stuff to get packages built. 20:09 < mmcgrath> and OLPC builds packages now, do we just need the koji client in debian? 20:09 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: not really. 20:09 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: honestly i think having koji in debian/ubuntu would go a long way to helping 20:09 < dgilmore> since mock is tehre and works 20:10 < mmcgrath> I guess I'm still confused by what is there, what they want and what they would suggest Fedora's role in that should be. 20:10 < mmcgrath> gregdek says they have people who are being asked to build packages, is this like OLPC extras or something? 20:10 < mmcgrath> OLPC.us? 20:10 < mmcgrath> :) 20:10 < ricky> Hehe 20:11 < gregdek> You know, I'm unsure. 20:11 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: most of it is dealling with fedora packages. 20:11 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: a tiny amount is packages not in fedora 20:11 < mmcgrath> so getting fedora packages into OLPC? 20:11 < dgilmore> but thats really tiny 20:11 < dgilmore> yeah 20:11 < mmcgrath> so they're worried about the tiny portion not in Fedora? 20:11 < mmcgrath> or the portion that is in Fedora? 20:11 < mmcgrath> if so, are we just talking about another distribution of Fedora similar to what EPEL is now? 20:12 < dgilmore> dealling with testing builds in mock. i.e. for new packages. dealing with submitting builds to koji 20:12 < mmcgrath> and the requirements are that this work on debian? 20:12 < dgilmore> thats the main hurdle 20:12 -!- jmtaylor [n=jason@fedora/jmtaylor] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:13 < mmcgrath> so there's potentially two parts to this 20:13 < mmcgrath> 1) is getting the koji client into debian, mock already is. 20:13 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: does mock build olpc packages just fine? what does it build against? 20:13 -!- fbijlsma [n=fbijlsma(a)p4FDC4F8C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:13 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: most people use the fedora release that there targeting against 20:13 < mmcgrath> k 20:14 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: though i have a mock config that uses olpc specfic packages also 20:14 < mmcgrath> and thast something that could be done on debian today? 20:14 < dgilmore> yes 20:14 < dgilmore> really whats missing is koji 20:14 < dgilmore> and maybe fedora-packager 20:15 < mmcgrath> so the thing the OLPC debian guys can't do is actually submit builds to koji so I'd think really we need to get one of those debian guys to get koji into debian. 20:15 < mmcgrath> or one of our guys to do it, I have no idea what the process is there. 20:15 < dgilmore> yeah i think one of them would be best 20:16 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: gregdek: do either of you know who we could assign this ticket to in debian world? 20:16 -!- JSchmitt [n=s4504kr@fedora/JSchmitt] has quit "Konversation terminated!" 20:16 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: ill ask them to provide someone 20:16 < mmcgrath> k 20:16 < dgilmore> lets move on 20:16 < mmcgrath> k 20:16 < mmcgrath> Thats the last of the tickets 20:16 -!- kulll [i=d318e24a(a)gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d4dfe58a02d08d2a] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:17 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- puppet training 20:17 < mmcgrath> I dropped the ball on that puppet training. It'll happen next week I swear! 20:17 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- oVirt 20:18 < mmcgrath> I've been working to get xen6 rebuilt with oVirt. It is now dedicated to just the staging environment. there's a couple of potential uses there and possibly some upcomming projects as well. 20:18 -!- c_scott [n=cscott(a)schoolserver.laptop.org] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:18 -!- m_stone [n=mstone(a)dhcp-47-72.media.mit.edu] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:18 < m_stone> dgilmore: howdy. what can I do for you? 20:18 < mmcgrath> But I (and hopefully the rest of us) will be able to get our hands dirty with ovirt and help the developers harden it and get it ready. 20:18 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: I'll switch the topic back 20:18 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Tickets 20:18 < mmcgrath> .ticket 740 20:18 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #740 (Loaning out system time to OLPC participants) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/740 20:19 < mmcgrath> m_stone: we were looking at that ticket and from what we understand, we just need to get the koji client into debian but we don't know how to do that. 20:19 < m_stone> mmcgrath: that would certainly be a good first step. 20:19 < mmcgrath> m_stone: do you know any debian guys who can package it and get it in? 20:19 < m_stone> I can probably scare some up. 20:20 < m_stone> (though not this week!) :) 20:20 -!- DemonJester [n=DemonJes@fedora/DemonJester] has quit "leaving" 20:20 < smooge> quick question... mediawiki .. do we need to update to something furhter on upstream? I am looking at the source now 20:20 < mmcgrath> dgilmore tells me mock is already in debian so it should have everything we need to 1) test mock builds on debian workstations and 2) ultimately submit those builds to koji to be built. 20:20 < dgilmore> m_stone: what kind of educational assistance do you think fedora could offer? 20:20 < m_stone> mmcgrath: the difficulty is that, as of the last time I tested it, mock's usage of yum on debian was failing. 20:20 < dgilmore> m_stone: what are the ultimate end goals your hopping we can provide? 20:20 -!- marcopg_ [n=marco(a)host162-118-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:20 < m_stone> so it was unable to initialize chroots. 20:20 < c_scott> m_stone: no, mock WorksForMe 20:20 < m_stone> c_scott: glad to hear it! 20:21 < c_scott> a koji port would be very nice, though 20:21 < m_stone> I'll retry it myself then. 20:21 < c_scott> i'd like to see the olpc repo configurations make it into mock upstream, though 20:21 < dgilmore> m_stone: i know mock worked for me when testing 20:21 < m_stone> (or else teach mock to be able to pull form urls) 20:21 < abadger1999> That would be nice from my perspective as well. 20:21 < m_stone> i.e. to pull configurations from, say, http urls 20:21 < dgilmore> m_stone: was it just ubuntu that was having issues? i used plain debian 20:22 * abadger1999 needs olpc repo's for the package database. 20:22 < nirik> smooge: it still needs to be built for epel... ianweller or you or whoever should do that if it's ready to be used. ;) 20:22 < m_stone> dgilmore: it was plain debian too. 20:22 < c_scott> dgilmore: yes, i use plain debian, too. 20:22 < m_stone> dgilmore: I last tested this March 7 though. 20:22 < m_stone> so it has been a while. 20:22 < m_stone> dgilmore: anyway, returning to your questions about educational assistance and goals... 20:22 < dgilmore> c_scott: there a few extra configs that need to get into mock 20:23 < m_stone> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Developer/Fedora should give you some idea of the audience we're targetting. 20:23 < m_stone> however, if you glance at the 'outside reading' section... 20:24 < m_stone> you'll see that the tutorials/guidelines for actually writing specfiles which are listed are all severely out of date.. 20:24 < mdomsch> c_scott, if the olpc configs exist, adding them to mock should be trivial 20:24 < c_scott> mdomsch: dgilmore's got 'em 20:24 < m_stone> either the Maximum-RPM snapshot or the draft 'creating rpms' chapter. 20:25 < m_stone> dgilmore: consequently, I'm interested in three basic things. 20:26 < m_stone> dgilmore: 1) ability to use A Single Program for basic specfile maintenance tasks. this could be the common Makefile if it were easily adapted by newbies to new packages, it could be my Makefiles, etc. 20:26 -!- Gaaruto [n=Gaaruto@fedora/Gaaruto] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:26 < m_stone> having to immediately learn the individual command lines for git, cvs, rpmbuild, rpmlint, mock, and koji simultaneously doesn't work real well, in my experience. 20:27 < mmcgrath> m_stone: it doesn't work well even one at a time :) 20:27 < dgilmore> m_stone: you mean for getting packages ready for review? 20:27 < m_stone> 2) some authoritative written documentation on how to deal with specfiles. 20:27 < m_stone> dgilmore: for that, and also for bumpspec, changelog update from VCS logs, simplified error detection for %files problems, ... 20:27 < m_stone> that sort of thing. 20:27 < abadger1999> m_stone: Are we mostly talking new packages or maintaining old packages? 20:28 < m_stone> abadger1999: a mix of both. the documentation I wrote was geared at tweaking existing packages. 20:29 < m_stone> abadger1999: on the other hand, requests for new packages come up frequently. since FUDCON Boston, though, it's been a lot easier to get help from folks like mether on the new-requests packaging. 20:29 < c_scott> also, i'd rather like some tools to help manage forked packages -- starting with basic notifications when there's a new (say) f9 release of a package with an olpc3 fork 20:29 < m_stone> dgilmore: similarly, a source-code browser for the patched contents of SRPMs. -- I've started on this myself and may eventually finish it, but this ought to be useful for Fedora too. 20:29 < c_scott> and, if I get ambitious, a way of automatically applying patches to (say) f9 packages to get a corresponding olpc3 package 20:30 < m_stone> dgilmore: anyway, moving into the rest of the education problem. 20:30 < abadger1999> m_stone: #fedora-devel is the best resource for tweaking existing packages as it's likely to be one-off questions. 20:30 < m_stone> dgilmore: I benefitted greatly from hands-on tutoring on making rpms from bernie, from dcbw, and from you. 20:31 < m_stone> dgilmore: however, in order to be able to benefit from that tutoring, I needed both a fedora machine and access to the tutor. 20:31 < abadger1999> New packages would benefit from having someone mentor. 20:31 < m_stone> dgilmore: lots of people who I've tutored since then simply do not have easy access to a fedora development machine. 20:31 < m_stone> conceivably they could use a livecd, but in practice, it's still a real pain. 20:31 < abadger1999> The mingw people have started building a script that can help with forked packages... although we'dwant to reduce forking in olpc's case if possible. 20:31 < m_stone> and they still have to figure out where to find a mentor and how to give the mentor access to the build environment, etc... 20:32 < dgilmore> m_stone: so with the approriate tools on whatever distro they use they should be able to do thinks ok. 20:32 < dgilmore> m_stone: and they would have an XO to actually test things on 20:32 < c_scott> abadger1999: the goal is actually to help distinguishing (a) what packages are currently forked, (b) what the patch is that requires them to be forked 20:32 < c_scott> abadger1999: both help long term in ensuring changes are merged upstream to mitigate future need for the fork 20:33 -!- stickster_afk is now known as stickster 20:33 < abadger1999> c_scott: I think the mingw script does the opposite. 20:33 < c_scott> abadger1999: ? 20:33 < abadger1999> But maybe you could run it with the branches switched. 20:33 < m_stone> dgilmore: it's possible that you're right; it just makes more sense to me think of it as a Fedora-based 'newbie's sandbox' in koji. 20:34 < f13> sorry, I was busy 20:34 < m_stone> dgilmore: for example, you can imagine wanting to build up a browsable library of spec-file corrections made by experienced folks to newbie specfiles. 20:34 < abadger1999> Basically, it was designed so the mingw people could have a cross-compiled version of a Fedora package. then they can run the script to tell them what has changed in the Fedora-native package. 20:34 < m_stone> dgilmore: so that new folks have a wide variety of materials to browse to try to bootstrap themselves into knowledge. 20:34 < c_scott> abadger1999: ok, i see 20:35 < c_scott> abadger1999: but that tends to perpetuate the fork ;-) 20:35 < c_scott> i want to base all our packages on an f9 package, and just apply a patch to them automatically 20:35 < abadger1999> c_scott: yeah. In their case, the fork is permanent (the crosscompiled package is always going to be separate even if the source is all the same). 20:36 < abadger1999> <nod> 20:36 < dgilmore> m_stone: we have cvs history :). i can think of a few improvements for fedora-packager from this. 20:36 < m_stone> dgilmore: how is cvs history browsable? 20:37 < dgilmore> m_stone: cvsweb 20:37 < abadger1999> You want to say I have one olpc-specific patch and two that I submitted upstream (Fedora). New Fedora version is out, what patches can I drop, what patch do I need to rebase to the new version. 20:37 < m_stone> dgilmore: and how can diff between the upstream sources? 20:37 -!- ldimaggi_ [n=ldimaggi@nat/redhat/x-ce1910205342fe50] has quit "Leaving" 20:37 < m_stone> dgilmore: remember that a lot of folks are both the upstream and the packager for us. 20:37 < m_stone> and it's particularly confusing for them since the fedora docs mainly assume that packagers are not upstream. 20:37 < dgilmore> http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/rpms/ however not easily searchable 20:38 < abadger1999> m_stone: Not that they aren't... just that they separate their roles. 20:39 < dgilmore> m_stone: it would be great if you could add some comments to that ticket. 20:39 < m_stone> dgilmore: okay, I can do that. 20:39 < m_stone> poke me again when it's not release week. :) 20:39 < dgilmore> :) will do 20:39 < m_stone> also, thanks for being so open to these suggestions. 20:40 < mmcgrath> we like openess :) 20:40 < m_stone> as I said before, I'm happy to take a crack at some of this myself; I just wanted to make sure you were aware of what I was aiming for. 20:40 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: m_stone: anything else for now or can we move on to the next meeting item? 20:40 < mmcgrath> m_stone: FYI, you can almost always find us in #fedora-admin should you have questions or ideas concerning this (or anything else for that matter) 20:40 < m_stone> mmcgrath: I'll follow up w/ dgilmore again in future weeks, then we can see where we stand. 20:40 < m_stone> good? 20:40 < mmcgrath> sounds good, m_stone please do make notes in the ticket so we don't forget - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/740 20:40 < m_stone> mmcgrath: will do. 20:41 < mmcgrath> You'll need a fedora account for that, but not a CLA - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/ 20:41 < mmcgrath> Ok, if there's nothing else I'll move on to the next item. 20:41 -!- bryan_kearney [n=bkearney@nat/redhat/x-ff8ab0eafb7c82fd] has left #fedora-meeting ["Jar Jar Binks is my co-pilot"] 20:41 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- oVirt 20:41 < mmcgrath> K, so the oVirt team (ovirt.org) is working on some stuff and I think it'd be good for our team to adopt it. 20:42 < ricky> I looked at the website a tiny bit. Is it an appliance "take-over-the-machine" type thing, or just a package that you install? 20:42 < mmcgrath> We can't blanket move our infrastructure to it because we're almost entirely paravirt right now and not all of our hardware suports hardware virt. 20:42 < mmcgrath> ricky: both. 20:42 < SmootherFrOgZ> ricky: it's an appliance 20:42 < mmcgrath> But right now they just have an image for you to use and install. 20:42 < ricky> Aw :-( 20:43 < mmcgrath> ricky: my understanding is this is still very early. 20:43 < mmcgrath> the good thing about us getting involved now is we can make sure and make suggestions to help suit our needs and what we think others needs will be. 20:43 < ricky> OK. Hopefully, that will be one of the things 20:44 < SmootherFrOgZ> mmcgrath: what is the goal ? use the image appliance or make all service up and running for fedora-infra ? 20:44 < mmcgrath> well, in our case there's a couple of goals. 20:44 < mmcgrath> the primary goal is to look at whether or not we think ovirt will be the future of virtualization in the RH stack of virtualization. 20:45 < mmcgrath> I don't think we really have a say in it, but as fedora goes, it typically follows that RHEL goes. 20:45 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: having a base appserver appliance proxyserver applaince etc? 20:45 < mmcgrath> And managment tools in the open source space are horrible right now. 20:45 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: well, the ovirt stack's primary win is its management piece, and really thats the appliance. 20:45 < mmcgrath> so, in theory, we can 'convert' our current images to use to ovirt stack. 20:45 < mmcgrath> which, AFAIK, will just work. 20:45 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: ok 20:45 < SmootherFrOgZ> mmcgrath: correct 20:46 < mmcgrath> SmootherFrOgZ: did you do any conversions or was all your stuff fresh? 20:46 < lmacken> mmcgrath: how come we can't just start using it on everything? It uses libvirt, which supports xen and kvm, no ? 20:46 < SmootherFrOgZ> some conversions from xen host, yeah 20:46 * lmacken knows nothing about oVirt though, other than it is a rails app 20:46 < mmcgrath> lmacken: well, it uses libvirt's api, and libvirts api supports xen and kvm, but ovirt doesn't yet. 20:46 < mmcgrath> I get the feeling that we are VERY early adopters of ovirt. 20:46 < lmacken> odd, ok. 20:47 < mmcgrath> SmootherFrOgZ: were your xen host images actual disk images or were they partition images? 20:47 -!- Sonar_Guy [n=Who_Know@fedora/sonarguy] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:47 < lmacken> Sounds good to me though, I'm all for it. Do we have any kvm guests yet ? 20:47 < mmcgrath> not a single one yet. 20:47 * ricky didn't know about the rails part :-) 20:47 < mmcgrath> though hopefully some of our staging environment will be. 20:48 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: we were very early adopters of xen also 20:48 * SmootherFrOgZ only use partition images, but i did some tries with disk image 20:48 < lmacken> dgilmore: and TurboGears ;) 20:48 -!- mdomsch [n=Matt_Dom(a)cpe-70-124-62-55.austin.res.rr.com] has quit Remote closed the connection 20:48 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: yep, and I miss all that pain :) 20:48 < mmcgrath> SmootherFrOgZ: k 20:49 < mmcgrath> So yeah, I'm hoping FI can get a good working relationship with the oVirt guys so if you see them poking around at what we're doing, spend some time talking to them, ask questions and answer theirs. 20:49 < SmootherFrOgZ> i think we should add closer look on all services that ovirt requires also 20:49 -!- nman64 [n=n-man@fedora/nman64] has quit Remote closed the connection 20:49 < ricky> #ovirt and #ovirt-devel, I assume? 20:50 < mmcgrath> <takes_off_RH_hat>Considering that RH bought Qumranet it seems likely to me that they'll be pushing harder for KVM, especially since its already in the kernel and some how xen has still managed to fail at that </rh_hat_off> 20:50 < mmcgrath> <nod> 20:50 < ricky> Er, not #ovirt-devel, #ovirt on OFTC, apparently 20:50 < mmcgrath> I don't really have a view into that virtualization stack stuff yet but maybe this will be a better way to see what RH's roadmap is for all of that. 20:50 < dgilmore> ricky: the virt guys seem to like oftc 20:51 < ricky> Heh. 20:51 < mmcgrath> I have to figure there will be a seemless way to convert from xen to kvm by RHEL6 but I guess we'll have to see. 20:51 < dgilmore> #virt there is for libvirt 20:51 < mmcgrath> :) 20:51 < mmcgrath> So anywho, anyone have any questions on that? 20:51 * dgilmore has none 20:51 < ricky> Is this something that'd be hard to setup at home? 20:51 < mmcgrath> ricky: you'd need hardware virt support. 20:51 < SmootherFrOgZ> ricky: not 20:51 < mmcgrath> I actually don't have a single box here at home that has that. 20:52 < ricky> But it won't take over the machine with appliance-y stuff, right? 20:52 < mmcgrath> other then that though, I don't think it'd be difficult. 20:52 < mmcgrath> ricky: the appliance is an actual image that you'd run in KVM. 20:52 < SmootherFrOgZ> ricky: but you will also need to have a lot of memory for the image appliance 20:52 < mmcgrath> so its like a 500M download or something then you run it. 20:52 < ricky> OK 20:53 < SmootherFrOgZ> ricky: fedora packages seem to work well just like ovirt repo btw 20:53 < mmcgrath> Ok, anyone have anything else on that? If not I'll open the floor. (we're running out of time) 20:53 < dgilmore> nothing more from me 20:53 -!- fbijlsma [n=fbijlsma(a)p4FDC4F8C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Read error: 113 (No route to host) 20:53 < mmcgrath> k 20:53 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Open Floor 20:53 < mmcgrath> Anyone have anything they want to talk about? 20:53 * mmcgrath wants to mention he'll be missing for a chunk of tomorrow afternoon. 20:53 < SmootherFrOgZ> just a quick question 20:54 < mmcgrath> SmootherFrOgZ: sure thing. 20:54 < SmootherFrOgZ> there is a cron tack on buildsys (for koji) which actually does nothing 20:54 < SmootherFrOgZ> s/tack/task 20:54 < mmcgrath> which one? 20:54 < dgilmore> SmootherFrOgZ: what one 20:54 < mmcgrath> its on buildsys.fedoraproject.org or koji.fedoraproject.org ? 20:55 < SmootherFrOgZ> this cron deamon on koji.fp.o 20:56 < SmootherFrOgZ> Cron <apache@koji1> $SCRIPT --action=prune 20:56 < dgilmore> abadger1999: thats for koji-gc 20:56 < dgilmore> SmootherFrOgZ: ^ 20:56 < SmootherFrOgZ> there a couple of 20:56 < SmootherFrOgZ> delete, purge, etc 20:56 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: are we gc'ing again? 20:56 < dgilmore> SmootherFrOgZ: it needs to be fixed i was waiting for infra freeze to be over to fix it 20:56 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: no 20:57 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: auth is not right 20:57 < dgilmore> I can fix it now 20:57 -!- rdieter is now known as rdieter_away 20:57 < SmootherFrOgZ> here is the lil' log 20:57 < dgilmore> but was going to wait for freeze to be done 20:57 < dgilmore> SmootherFrOgZ: i know exactly what it is 20:57 < SmootherFrOgZ> Error: unable to log in, no authentication methods available 20:57 < dgilmore> SmootherFrOgZ: for now ignore it 20:57 < SmootherFrOgZ> dgilmore: ok ;) 20:58 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: yeah, lets fix it after the freeze. 20:58 < mmcgrath> Ok, anyone have anything else to discuss? If not I'll close the meeting in 30 20:58 < ricky> If we're have any thoughts about which CA we're planning to use, I'd be willing to test it out at home 20:58 < dgilmore> ricky: dogtag 20:59 < ricky> Cool, I'll start playing around with it and seeing how FAS can talk to it, etc. 20:59 < dgilmore> ricky: i have some feedback from the devs on what we will need to do to migrate from what we have now 20:59 < mmcgrath> 15 20:59 < mmcgrath> :) 20:59 < ricky> Worst case, I'll start a fresh setup with it just to test FAS against it 20:59 < ricky> That's all I had :-) 20:59 < mmcgrath> K 20:59 < mmcgrath> with that 21:00 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Meeting Closed

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oVirt and xen6
by Mike McGrath 24 Sep '08

24 Sep '08

Hey guys, I'm going to convert xen6 to F9 soon to do some ovirt/kvm testing. xen6 is almost dedicated to staging now, it will be before I start (need to move fas2 somewhere else). -Mike

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Stale Fedora Hosted Projects (revisited)
by Mike McGrath 24 Sep '08

24 Sep '08

Getting back to this. What should we do with code to which no one claims ownership or the owner cannot be found? -Mike

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A new member...
by Kevin Cadieux 24 Sep '08

24 Sep '08

Hello everyone, My name is Kevin, and I just recently created my account to be a member of the Fedora Project. I was interested in getting involved, so I looked at the different sub-projects on the wiki. I found that the Infrastructure sub-project was the one that suited best my experience and interests. So here I am now, writing to you all to introduce myself :) I am a Computer Engineering student at the University of Sherbrooke in Quebec, Canada. I am very organized with my school work so I can easily manage to get 10 to 20 hours of "Fedora" time per week. I am still in the process of reading the different documents on the wiki in order to get up to speed with Fedora and the Infrastructure group. So, if you have any advice as to what would be the best thing to start with, feel free to let me know. It would be greatly appreciated. In the meantime, I'll continue my reading and let you all know when I feel ready to roll. Thanks a lot, Kevin

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My first mail
by liang yu 23 Sep '08

23 Sep '08

Hi all: I am a new member of the Fedora Infrastructure team.My name is Yuliang from China.I have plenty of spare time to contribute and wish to involve the team. I like programming Any suggestion or mentorship from the team is important to me.I want to work with you qucikly. Best Regards Yuliang

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Some doubts for creation of new projects in fedorahosted
by Huzaifa Sidhpurwala 23 Sep '08

23 Sep '08

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi All, I was doing a ticket on creating new projects on fedorahosted today and found certain anomalies in the documentation [1]. Since this is my first ticket on creating new projects on fedorahosted, I am not sure if my methods are correct, hence this email. The ticket in question is [2] 1. When a create a new git repo and do a git clone, exactly following the instructions on the wiki, i get a "headers does not exist message" I resolved it by doing cd /git/libaio.git; sudo git init This worked dont know if it is correct though 2. When running the script to create a new project, It seems that the trac enviroment was correctly created however adding a user to TRAC_ADMIN group gave the following error: "Command failed: columns username, action are not unique" However the user does get added to TRAC_ADMIN Group. Also the script already has step 6 [1] incorporated so i dont think that is needed. I would really appreciate if someone with a more experience can help me out a bit. Thanks a lot in advance. :) [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/ProjectHosting/RepositorySetup http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/ProjectHosting/CreateNewProject [2] https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/837 - -- Regards, Huzaifa Sidhpurwala, RHCE, CCNA (IRC: huzaifas) GnuPG Fingerprint: 3A0F DAFB 9279 02ED 273B FFE9 CC70 DCF2 DA5B DAE5 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFI2JAQzHDc8tpb2uURAnKZAJ9bLQDyOAl9o10snMUDDQx9gnmB7QCfUkR5 wt2/QjUOVGvsS0JvMkOB8hw= =Rj3g -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Big thank you to the Fedora infrastructure team
by Rahul Sundaram 22 Sep '08

22 Sep '08

Hi, Just passing on the message, http://forums.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=199590 Rahul

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[Fwd: How to become a public mirror]
by Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams 22 Sep '08

22 Sep '08

For your consideration. -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: Truong Anh. Tuan <tatuan(a)gmail.com> To: webmaster(a)fedoraproject.org Subject: [SPAM] How to become a public mirror Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:40:05 +0700 (ICT) Dear sir/madam, We are the HanoiLUG, the largest Linux User Group and FOSS community in Vietnam. Currently, we have got a server contributed by Intel and Internet connection contributed by NetNam for mirroring Linux distibutions as well as FOSS in Vietnam (we call it Virror project). Honestly, I can not find how to become a Fedora public mirror, even, after read this Wiki article: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Mirroring Could you please tell us more about this. Thanks, Tuan TRUONG A HanoiLUG member

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Change Request - Elections
by Nigel Jones 22 Sep '08

22 Sep '08

Technically not directly covered in the Beta Freeze, but it's only running on app4 at the moment and the settings it's on now is okay for the infrequent use of casual browsing, but the Art team want to use it for the next 36 or so hours. Can I get a +1 to bump to the resources used during the FESCo/Board votes? Thanks - Nigel -- Nigel Jones <dev(a)nigelj.com>

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Change request: bugfix for packagedb-bzsync
by Toshio Kuratomi 22 Sep '08

22 Sep '08

We've got a pair of problems with the packagedb-bugzilla sync script that is keeping bugzilla from being updated with new information that I'd like to deploy. Both are extremely simple (so easy to back out) and both are causing bugzilla to not update. 1) config change. The debug flag was left on when we deployed a new version of the script a few weeks ago. Unfortunately, for this script, debug implies dry_run. So no updates occur while debug is on. 2) one line bugfix. The script was attempting to change a variable containing a fas username into a bugzilla email address twice. This failed on the second attempt since the email address couldn't be found in the username field. This change affects app5 (where the scripts run) and bugzilla. Since the script was hitting pkgdb before (just not updating bugzilla), it shouldn't affect the pkgdb. Can I get two +1's ? -Toshio

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