infrastructure December 2009

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Introduction
by Maxim Burgerhout 19 Dec '09

19 Dec '09

Hi all, My name is Maxim Burgerhout and I would like to offer some of my spare time to help out the Fedora Infrastructure Team a bit. I have been using various flavors of Linux ever since Red Hat 6 (I think), though not always as a professional. The last couple of years I have been working as a Linux and virtualization consultant for a fairly large organization in the Netherlands. My experience with maintaining web- and build-servers is limited: I mostly work with RHEL database servers etc., but I'm willing to invest time to acquire the (possibly missing) skills I would need to help out. I think I have ample experience in writing shellscripts. I have also done my share of Python programming and some Rails, PHP and Django webdevelopment. I really like Fedora and I am ready to start giving back. Also, helping out the Infrastrucure Team would provide me with a base of learning new skills, honing existing ones and meeting knowledgeable people. I'll drop by in #fedora-admin soon if that's okay. Feel free to ask me stuff: my usual handle is wzzrd. I'm not sure what to put in this e-mail, so if I'm missing something, please point it out and I'll fill in the blanks. Kind regards, Maxim Burgerhout maxim(a)wzzrd.com ---------------- GPG Fingerprint EB11 5E56 E648 9D99 E8EF 05FB C513 6FD4 1302 B48A

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Re: [FOSDEM'10] Community infrastructure talk
by Jeroen van Meeuwen 19 Dec '09

19 Dec '09

That's all nice and dandy, but not much of a topic to discuss no matter what your thoughts are. When it concerns how and through what mirror your data is available to your consumers you also have entirely different motives compared to making sure your *own* infrastructure runs fashionably well. If it were up to me, I have zero interest in discussing this specific topic presented as such. -- Jeroen "Frederic Hornain" <fhornain(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Dear *, > >FYI, Ralph from CentOS community is going to so a talk about infrastructure. > >*Hi, > >I'd like to propose a talk/discussion panel around mirror >infrastructure management: > > - How are new mirrors accepted? > - How do you administer / attend to the database of mirrors? > - How are mirrors checked for freshness? > - How do you work with Geo localization? > >As before. I can tell something about how the CentOS project is doing >this, but I see this more as a panel, where other distributions also >talk shortly about how they manage their mirrors and then things can >be discussed. > >This also should be interesting for other projects taking care of >their own mirrors (maybe someone from a large project might add to >that discussion, too). > >Regards, > >Ralph >* > >As you have got the same problems, If you are interested to join him in this >talk and have discussion/brainstorming about it feel free to contact me.* >* >Best Regards >Frederic* ;) >* >On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Frederic Hornain <fhornain(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> Dea >> Thanks a lot >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Jeroen van Meeuwen <kanarip(a)kanarip.com>wrote: >> >>> On 12/14/2009 10:46 PM, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: >>> >>>> On 12/14/2009 09:36 PM, Frederic Hornain wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear *, >>>>> >>>>> Would someone be interested to make a talk on Fedora Community >>>>> infrastructure at FOSDEM'10 - Belgium -? >>>>> >>>>> * FedoraCommunity, opensourced LaunchPad, Bugzilla extensions, etc... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> BTW, as the rule have changed at FOSDEM, you will do your talk with >>>>> other distributions on the same subject. >>>>> Thanks for your time and your help. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Sure, here's a candidate! >>>> >>>> >>> I already asked permission from our fearless leader; >>> >>> [22:51:30] <kanarip> mmcgrath, that is, if you'll let me go tete-a-tete >>> with other distributions on the topic of infrastructure ;-))) >>> >>> -- Jeroen >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list >>> Fedora-infrastructure-list(a)redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> ----------------------------------------------------- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com >> Olpc mailing list >> olpc-open(a)laptop.org >> > > > >-- >----------------------------------------------------- >Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >Fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com >Olpc mailing list >olpc-open(a)laptop.org >_______________________________________________ >Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list >Fedora-infrastructure-list(a)redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list

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Re: Introduction (Maxim Burgerhout)
by XM 18 Dec '09

18 Dec '09

The same to me :) You may join the irc.freenode.net in #fedora-admin stop first Spark On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 1:00 AM, < fedora-infrastructure-list-request(a)redhat.com> wrote: > Send Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list submissions to > fedora-infrastructure-list(a)redhat.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > fedora-infrastructure-list-request(a)redhat.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > fedora-infrastructure-list-owner(a)redhat.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Fedora-infrastructure-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Introduction (Maxim Burgerhout) > 2. Meeting Log - 2009-12-17 (Ricky Zhou) > 3. Outage tomorrow night (Mike McGrath) > 4. Re: Outage tomorrow night (Stephen John Smoogen) > 5. Re: Outage tomorrow night (Mike McGrath) > 6. Outage Notification - 2009-12-18 02:00 UTC (Mike McGrath) > 7. Re: Outage Notification - 2009-12-19 02:00 UTC (Mike McGrath) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 21:30:52 +0100 > From: Maxim Burgerhout <maxim(a)wzzrd.com> > To: fedora-infrastructure-list(a)redhat.com > Subject: Introduction > Message-ID: > <af712fc40912171230o734bc543oe88d66779b90a4dd(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi all, > > My name is Maxim Burgerhout and I would like to offer some of my spare > time to help out the Fedora Infrastructure Team a bit. I have been > using various flavors of Linux ever since Red Hat 6 (I think), though > not always as a professional. The last couple of years I have been > working as a Linux and virtualization consultant for a fairly large > organization in the Netherlands. > > My experience with maintaining web- and build-servers is limited: I > mostly work with RHEL database servers etc., but I'm willing to invest > time to acquire the (possibly missing) skills I would need to help > out. > > I think I have ample experience in writing shellscripts. I have also > done my share of Python programming and some Rails, PHP and Django > webdevelopment. > > I really like Fedora and I am ready to start giving back. Also, > helping out the Infrastrucure Team would provide me with a base of > learning new skills, honing existing ones and meeting knowledgeable > people. > > I'll drop by in #fedora-admin soon if that's okay. Feel free to ask me > stuff: my usual handle is wzzrd. I'm not sure what to put in this > e-mail, so if I'm missing something, please point it out and I'll fill > in the blanks. > > Kind regards, > > Maxim Burgerhout > maxim(a)wzzrd.com > ---------------- > GPG Fingerprint > EB11 5E56 E648 9D99 E8EF 05FB C513 6FD4 1302 B48A > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:52:48 -0500 > From: Ricky Zhou <ricky(a)fedoraproject.org> > To: fedora-infrastructure-list(a)redhat.com > Subject: Meeting Log - 2009-12-17 > Message-ID: <20091217205248.GA30413(a)alpha.rzhou.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > 20:01 < mmcgrath> #startmeeting Infrastructure > 20:01 < zodbot> Meeting started Thu Dec 17 20:01:37 2009 UTC. The chair is > mmcgrath. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. > 20:01 < zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link > #topic. > 20:01 -!- zodbot changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: (Meeting topic: > Infrastructure) > 20:01 -!- wzzrd [n=wzzrd(a)a80-101-129-77.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined > #fedora-meeting > 20:01 < mmcgrath> #topic Who's here? > 20:01 -!- zodbot changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Who's here? > (Meeting topic: Infrastructure) > 20:01 * nirik is hanging out in the back > 20:01 < sspreitzer> .fas sspreitzer > 20:02 < zodbot> sspreitzer: sspreitzer 'Sascha Thomas Spreitzer' < > sascha(a)spreitzer.name> > 20:02 * mmcgrath is here > 20:02 < mmcgrath> is anyone else? > 20:02 < mmcgrath> this could be a very short meeting :) > 20:02 < sspreitzer> yes > 20:02 < sspreitzer> ;) > 20:03 -!- giarc [i=hidden-u(a)gnat.asiscan.com] has joined #fedora-meeting > 20:03 -!- TonyH [n=ubuntu(a)host86-149-5-85.range86-149.btcentralplus.com] > has joined #fedora-meeting > 20:03 * ricky is here, sorry > 20:04 < smooge> here > 20:04 < mmcgrath> well, lets get started > 20:04 -!- sdog [n=sdog(a)69.36-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has left > #fedora-meeting [] > 20:04 < mmcgrath> #topic The Move > 20:04 -!- zodbot changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: The Move (Meeting > topic: Infrastructure) > 20:04 < mmcgrath> so yeah, the move didn't go quite to the standards that > we generally set in Infrastructure but.. > 20:04 < mmcgrath> things are up and running right now. > 20:04 < mmcgrath> there's still a great deal of work to do though. > 20:05 < mmcgrath> smooge: you have anything to add to that? > 20:06 < smooge> we have to get a list of whats left over.. and move over > various IPs from old space to new one > 20:06 < mmcgrath> smooge: yeah > 20:06 < mmcgrath> there's lots of documentation to do. > 20:07 < mmcgrath> so that's really it. > 20:07 < smooge> many of the subzones are looking fro > wildcard.fedoraproject.org which isn't up/listed in PHX2 when I looked on > tuesday > 20:07 < smooge> working on documenting racks and cabling > 20:07 < mmcgrath> yeah > 20:07 < mmcgrath> Ok, well there's really nothing specific to talk on that, > just general work to do with renaming, etc. > 20:07 < mmcgrath> #topic Open Floor > 20:07 -!- zodbot changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Open Floor > (Meeting topic: Infrastructure) > 20:07 < mmcgrath> anyone have anything specific they'd like to discuss? > 20:08 < sspreitzer> ! > 20:08 < sspreitzer> hello everyone > 20:08 < sspreitzer> I have received an email from the ambassadors and > gerold kassube > 20:08 < sspreitzer> you might know him > 20:09 < sspreitzer> that an ISP in Tunis has gotten hold of an IBM p510 > 20:09 < sspreitzer> and it should act as a mirror for Fedora Project > 20:10 < sspreitzer> i currently work for IBM > 20:10 < sspreitzer> so I have been inquired because those guys want > additional hdd for the p510 > 20:11 -!- JSchmitt [n=s4504kr@fedora/JSchmitt] has quit Remote closed the > connection > 20:11 < sspreitzer> the thing is, the system has 2 bays left > 20:11 < sspreitzer> and the hdd parts options are not huge > 20:12 < sspreitzer> so its internally ultra wide scsi 320 > 20:12 < sspreitzer> and the biggest disk is 146 GB > 20:12 < sspreitzer> one disk costs abt. 650 USD > 20:12 < smooge> hi sspreitzer > 20:12 < sspreitzer> I wanted to know what your guys opinion is on that > 20:12 < sspreitzer> hey smooge > 20:13 < smooge> well currently the fedora complete is just over 1TB in size > to mirror. > 20:13 < sspreitzer> mine is; too expensive parts, better sell the p510 and > buy intel/amd stuff from it > 20:14 < sspreitzer> ok > 20:14 < sspreitzer> smooge, what if you only mirror the media? > 20:14 < smooge> so they would want to mirror small amounts. > 20:14 < mmcgrath> sspreitzer: sorry this really isn't the place, > #fedora-admin would probably be better for that stuff. > 20:14 < sspreitzer> okay? > 20:15 < mmcgrath> Ok, so it sounds like nothing else meeting related... :) > 20:15 < mmcgrath> I'll close the meeting in 30 seconds. > 20:18 -!- nucleo [n=nucleo@fedora/nucleo] has quit "KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, > revision: 3702, sources date: 20091205, built on: 2009-12-17 17:32:54 UTC" > 20:18 -!- nucleo [n=nucleo@fedora/nucleo] has joined #fedora-meeting > 20:21 -!- jroysdon [n=nnjroysd(a)Ox.roysdon.org] has quit Client Quit > 20:21 -!- _lmr_ [n=lmr(a)201.82.132.77] has joined #fedora-meeting > 20:24 -!- inode01 [n=inode0@fedora/inode0] has joined #fedora-meeting > 20:24 < mmcgrath> #endmeeting > 20:24 -!- zodbot changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Channel is used > by various Fedora groups and committees for their regular meetings | Note > that meetings often get logged | For questions about using Fedora please ask > in #fedora | See > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/FedoraMeetingChannel for meeting > schedule > 20:24 < zodbot> Meeting ended Thu Dec 17 20:24:47 2009 UTC. Information > about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . > 20:24 < zodbot> Minutes: > http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-17/fedora-meeting.2… > 20:24 < zodbot> Minutes (text): > http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-17/fedora-meeting.2… > 20:24 < zodbot> Log: > http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-17/fedora-meeting.2… > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 198 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/attachments/2009… > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 20:18:33 -0600 (CST) > From: Mike McGrath <mmcgrath(a)redhat.com> > To: Fedora Infrastructure List <fedora-infrastructure-list(a)redhat.com> > Subject: Outage tomorrow night > Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0912172016430.23804(a)laptop.mmcgrath.net> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > I'm going to prepare a formal outage notification soon but we're going to > have another total outage tomorrow night to get the database hosts set > back to their normal physical hosts. We'll also be setting koji and > bastion back up. > > -Mike > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 20:15:48 -0700 > From: Stephen John Smoogen <smooge(a)gmail.com> > To: Fedora Infrastructure <fedora-infrastructure-list(a)redhat.com> > Subject: Re: Outage tomorrow night > Message-ID: > <80d7e4090912171915q41fc931endd6c0096662aa693(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Mike McGrath <mmcgrath(a)redhat.com> wrote: > > I'm going to prepare a formal outage notification soon but we're going to > > have another total outage tomorrow night to get the database hosts set > > back to their normal physical hosts. ?We'll also be setting koji and > > bastion back up. > > > > What time do you want to do this? > > > -- > Stephen J Smoogen. > > Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp. Or what's a heaven for? > -- Robert Browning > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 21:25:52 -0600 (CST) > From: Mike McGrath <mmcgrath(a)redhat.com> > To: Fedora Infrastructure <fedora-infrastructure-list(a)redhat.com> > Subject: Re: Outage tomorrow night > Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0912172124390.23804(a)laptop.mmcgrath.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Thu, 17 Dec 2009, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Mike McGrath <mmcgrath(a)redhat.com> > wrote: > > > I'm going to prepare a formal outage notification soon but we're going > to > > > have another total outage tomorrow night to get the database hosts set > > > back to their normal physical hosts. ?We'll also be setting koji and > > > bastion back up. > > > > > > > What time do you want to do this? > > > > It'll be 2009-12-18 02:00 UTC. > > -Mike > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 21:34:51 -0600 (CST) > From: Mike McGrath <mmcgrath(a)redhat.com> > To: fedora-devel-announce(a)redhat.com > Cc: Fedora Infrastructure List <fedora-infrastructure-list(a)redhat.com> > Subject: Outage Notification - 2009-12-18 02:00 UTC > Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0912172126560.23804(a)laptop.mmcgrath.net> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > There will be an outage starting at 2009-12-18 02:00 UTC, which will last > approximately 2 hours. > > To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto > or run: > > date -d '2009-12-18 02:00 UTC' > > Affected Services: > > Buildsystem > CVS / Source Control > Database > Fedora Hosted > Mail > Mirror System > Translation Services > Websites > > Unaffected Services: > Torrent > DNS > Fedora People > Fedora Talk > > Ticket Link: > > https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1884 > > Reason for Outage: > We have a lot of temporary solutions in place from the move, we're moving > things back to their more permanents solutions. The main outages won't > last the full two hours. The vpn setup should only takes 10-20 minutes. > The db1 migration will take at least an hour though. > > > Contact Information: > > Please join #fedora-admin in irc.freenode.net or respond to this email to > trackthe status of this outage. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 21:55:10 -0600 (CST) > From: Mike McGrath <mmcgrath(a)redhat.com> > To: fedora-devel-list(a)redhat.com > Cc: Fedora Infrastructure List <fedora-infrastructure-list(a)redhat.com> > Subject: Re: Outage Notification - 2009-12-19 02:00 UTC > Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0912172154300.23804(a)laptop.mmcgrath.net> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > Sorry everyone, I was off by a day. I've updated it. > > -Mike > > > > On Thu, 17 Dec 2009, Mike McGrath wrote: > > > There will be an outage starting at 2009-12-19 02:00 UTC, which will > last > > approximately 2 hours. > > > > To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto > > or run: > > > > date -d '2009-12-19 02:00 UTC' > > > > Affected Services: > > > > Buildsystem > > CVS / Source Control > > Database > > Fedora Hosted > > Mail > > Mirror System > > Translation Services > > Websites > > > > Unaffected Services: > > Torrent > > DNS > > Fedora People > > Fedora Talk > > > > Ticket Link: > > > > https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1884 > > > > Reason for Outage: > > We have a lot of temporary solutions in place from the move, we're moving > > things back to their more permanents solutions. The main outages won't > > last the full two hours. The vpn setup should only takes 10-20 minutes. > > The db1 migration will take at least an hour though. > > > > > > Contact Information: > > > > Please join #fedora-admin in irc.freenode.net or respond to this email > to > > trackthe status of this outage. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-devel-announce mailing list > > Fedora-devel-announce(a)redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-announce > > > > -- > > fedora-devel-list mailing list > > fedora-devel-list(a)redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list(a)redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > > > End of Fedora-infrastructure-list Digest, Vol 43, Issue 16 > ********************************************************** >

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Outage Notification - 2009-12-18 02:00 UTC
by Mike McGrath 17 Dec '09

17 Dec '09

There will be an outage starting at 2009-12-18 02:00 UTC, which will last approximately 2 hours. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2009-12-18 02:00 UTC' Affected Services: Buildsystem CVS / Source Control Database Fedora Hosted Mail Mirror System Translation Services Websites Unaffected Services: Torrent DNS Fedora People Fedora Talk Ticket Link: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1884 Reason for Outage: We have a lot of temporary solutions in place from the move, we're moving things back to their more permanents solutions. The main outages won't last the full two hours. The vpn setup should only takes 10-20 minutes. The db1 migration will take at least an hour though. Contact Information: Please join #fedora-admin in irc.freenode.net or respond to this email to trackthe status of this outage.

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Outage tomorrow night
by Mike McGrath 17 Dec '09

17 Dec '09

I'm going to prepare a formal outage notification soon but we're going to have another total outage tomorrow night to get the database hosts set back to their normal physical hosts. We'll also be setting koji and bastion back up. -Mike

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Meeting Log - 2009-12-17
by Ricky Zhou 17 Dec '09

17 Dec '09

20:01 < mmcgrath> #startmeeting Infrastructure 20:01 < zodbot> Meeting started Thu Dec 17 20:01:37 2009 UTC. The chair is mmcgrath. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:01 < zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 20:01 -!- zodbot changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: (Meeting topic: Infrastructure) 20:01 -!- wzzrd [n=wzzrd(a)a80-101-129-77.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:01 < mmcgrath> #topic Who's here? 20:01 -!- zodbot changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Who's here? (Meeting topic: Infrastructure) 20:01 * nirik is hanging out in the back 20:01 < sspreitzer> .fas sspreitzer 20:02 < zodbot> sspreitzer: sspreitzer 'Sascha Thomas Spreitzer' <sascha(a)spreitzer.name> 20:02 * mmcgrath is here 20:02 < mmcgrath> is anyone else? 20:02 < mmcgrath> this could be a very short meeting :) 20:02 < sspreitzer> yes 20:02 < sspreitzer> ;) 20:03 -!- giarc [i=hidden-u(a)gnat.asiscan.com] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:03 -!- TonyH [n=ubuntu(a)host86-149-5-85.range86-149.btcentralplus.com] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:03 * ricky is here, sorry 20:04 < smooge> here 20:04 < mmcgrath> well, lets get started 20:04 -!- sdog [n=sdog(a)69.36-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has left #fedora-meeting [] 20:04 < mmcgrath> #topic The Move 20:04 -!- zodbot changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: The Move (Meeting topic: Infrastructure) 20:04 < mmcgrath> so yeah, the move didn't go quite to the standards that we generally set in Infrastructure but.. 20:04 < mmcgrath> things are up and running right now. 20:04 < mmcgrath> there's still a great deal of work to do though. 20:05 < mmcgrath> smooge: you have anything to add to that? 20:06 < smooge> we have to get a list of whats left over.. and move over various IPs from old space to new one 20:06 < mmcgrath> smooge: yeah 20:06 < mmcgrath> there's lots of documentation to do. 20:07 < mmcgrath> so that's really it. 20:07 < smooge> many of the subzones are looking fro wildcard.fedoraproject.org which isn't up/listed in PHX2 when I looked on tuesday 20:07 < smooge> working on documenting racks and cabling 20:07 < mmcgrath> yeah 20:07 < mmcgrath> Ok, well there's really nothing specific to talk on that, just general work to do with renaming, etc. 20:07 < mmcgrath> #topic Open Floor 20:07 -!- zodbot changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Open Floor (Meeting topic: Infrastructure) 20:07 < mmcgrath> anyone have anything specific they'd like to discuss? 20:08 < sspreitzer> ! 20:08 < sspreitzer> hello everyone 20:08 < sspreitzer> I have received an email from the ambassadors and gerold kassube 20:08 < sspreitzer> you might know him 20:09 < sspreitzer> that an ISP in Tunis has gotten hold of an IBM p510 20:09 < sspreitzer> and it should act as a mirror for Fedora Project 20:10 < sspreitzer> i currently work for IBM 20:10 < sspreitzer> so I have been inquired because those guys want additional hdd for the p510 20:11 -!- JSchmitt [n=s4504kr@fedora/JSchmitt] has quit Remote closed the connection 20:11 < sspreitzer> the thing is, the system has 2 bays left 20:11 < sspreitzer> and the hdd parts options are not huge 20:12 < sspreitzer> so its internally ultra wide scsi 320 20:12 < sspreitzer> and the biggest disk is 146 GB 20:12 < sspreitzer> one disk costs abt. 650 USD 20:12 < smooge> hi sspreitzer 20:12 < sspreitzer> I wanted to know what your guys opinion is on that 20:12 < sspreitzer> hey smooge 20:13 < smooge> well currently the fedora complete is just over 1TB in size to mirror. 20:13 < sspreitzer> mine is; too expensive parts, better sell the p510 and buy intel/amd stuff from it 20:14 < sspreitzer> ok 20:14 < sspreitzer> smooge, what if you only mirror the media? 20:14 < smooge> so they would want to mirror small amounts. 20:14 < mmcgrath> sspreitzer: sorry this really isn't the place, #fedora-admin would probably be better for that stuff. 20:14 < sspreitzer> okay? 20:15 < mmcgrath> Ok, so it sounds like nothing else meeting related... :) 20:15 < mmcgrath> I'll close the meeting in 30 seconds. 20:18 -!- nucleo [n=nucleo@fedora/nucleo] has quit "KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 3702, sources date: 20091205, built on: 2009-12-17 17:32:54 UTC" 20:18 -!- nucleo [n=nucleo@fedora/nucleo] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:21 -!- jroysdon [n=nnjroysd(a)Ox.roysdon.org] has quit Client Quit 20:21 -!- _lmr_ [n=lmr(a)201.82.132.77] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:24 -!- inode01 [n=inode0@fedora/inode0] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:24 < mmcgrath> #endmeeting 20:24 -!- zodbot changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Channel is used by various Fedora groups and committees for their regular meetings | Note that meetings often get logged | For questions about using Fedora please ask in #fedora | See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/FedoraMeetingChannel for meeting schedule 20:24 < zodbot> Meeting ended Thu Dec 17 20:24:47 2009 UTC. 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[FOSDEM'10] Community infrastructure talk
by Frederic Hornain 17 Dec '09

17 Dec '09

Dear *, Would someone be interested to make a talk on Fedora Community infrastructure at FOSDEM'10 - Belgium -? - FedoraCommunity, opensourced LaunchPad, Bugzilla extensions, etc... BTW, as the rule have changed at FOSDEM, you will do your talk with other distributions on the same subject. Thanks for your time and your help. Best Regards Frederic ;) -- ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open(a)laptop.org

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SOP creation made easier
by Mel Chua 16 Dec '09

16 Dec '09

Since we were directly inspired to create the Marketing SOPs by seeing how much good it's done Infrastructure to have them, I thought I'd share some back - we made a template and a SOP for making SOPs to make the SOP-generation process itself easier on folks who might not want to spend a lot of time on wiki editing. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Creating_a_Marketing_SOP https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Template:Marketing_SOP They're both marketing-specific at the moment, but could be cloned for Infrastructure in a few minutes. Another way to make it even easier to make SOPs would be to use http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:InputBox, which would give you a text field with a button next to it; if you type a title into the text field and hit the button, it throws you straight into the Edit page for a new page with that title, with a template you prespecify already in there. If someone wants to implement that extension, I'd be happy to do the wiki work needed to document/use it for various types of pages-that-should-be-easy-to-create once the extension is installed. --Mel -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Marketing SOPs Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 13:24:30 -0500 From: Mel Chua <mel(a)redhat.com> Reply-To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base <fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com> To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base <fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com> One of the projects we have between now and Alpha is to document how to create each of our primary release deliverables in the form of a SOP[0]. You can see our current SOPs here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Marketing_SOPs#How_to_contribute. Some are more polished than others. Of course, I had to start by making a SOP on how to make SOPs. :) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Creating_a_Marketing_SOP It makes use of the (also new) Marketing SOP template, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Template:Marketing_SOP. That template is meant to be a suggestion/aide to make life easier, so don't feel compelled to stick to it if you think a different format will work better for you. --Mel [0] Standard Operating Procedure - we used to call them "HOWTOs," but I switched the term to be more consistent with the terminology other teams use (specifically, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Infrastructure_SOPs). The HOWTO pages have been redirected/recategorized to reflect this. -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list

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Post Move Stuff
by Mike McGrath 15 Dec '09

15 Dec '09

So the move itself is over but there is still a lot of work to be done. At the moment some of our normally redundant services (koji, vpn) aren't redundant. Also I'm pretty sure puppet is still failing on some hosts but that we can fix at our own pace. Also just a note, smooge and I are likely going to be in recovery mode the next couple of days. So if something seems broken please open a ticket. So what is left? - We started renaming everything, we'll need to finish that (involves renames, re-keying things, etc) - New network map. We went from essentially having a single network to having 3 networks: - A build network - A storage network - A public network - Training on one of our new server types, bxen*. These hosts are dedicated to build and releng activities. This was done for a couple of reasons, most of which are organizational. It will also allow us to more easily predict growth needs for the buildsystem in the future. - Figure out what to do about proxy servers in PHX2. We can go a load balancer route or a heartbeat route but I'm not totally convinced we need two proxy servers in PHX2 like we had in PHX1 though, because of the way network routing still works we'll have to figure out something HA - QA - The new QA boxes are ready to be configured, I'll be working with jlaska on this. It's the first kind of hosted by Infrastructure but not really run by infrastructure set of boxes. Similar to how the releng boxes work but the QA team is less close to Infrastructure then release engineering is. This will involve training and some new policies. - Host certification - this is something I've been working on but not enacted yet. Mostly a solid lookover everything based on a recent CSI doc. http://infrastructure.fedoraproject.org/csi/host-lifecycle-policy/en-US/htm… In some organizations this the certification process will help bring about accountability. For us it's more about knowing what's going on, it's not like if someone accidentally certifies a box wrong they'll be in trouble but in our case a second pair of eyes will help. Even in the first trial run I did with smooge he discovered something I missed. There's also a lot of little things to do, especially with verifying things like IPTables and monitoring. -Mike

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Marketing Infrastructure projects, update 2009-12-15
by Mel Chua 15 Dec '09

15 Dec '09

Since a substantial portion of what Marketing is working on between now and Alpha (March 2) is getting infrastructure/tools up so we can do our work efficiently for the rest of the cycle, here's a quick update on our two big marketing-related infrastructure projects, also sent to Logistics for cross-team goodness (and mayyybe packaging help? maybe?). Project 1: Zikula This is for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight (which includes FWN, and will be largely reusable for Docs), and progress is being tracked on the logistics list, https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/logistics. We are currently (still) on publictest6. We want to have soft-launched on production by Alpha (March 3). Simon has an overview of the remaining work that needs to be done before we can be puppetized (http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/logistics/2009-December/000303.html). He's also updated the "how to set up a zikula sandbox" instructions, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_set_up_a_Zikula_sandbox. We are blocked by final fixes to the theme (design/CSS help needed!) which will then need to be packaged, as well as licensing issues with Scribite (http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/logistics/2009-December/000301.html) but it looks like the interaction between Fedora and Zikula folks is beginning to snowball (http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/logistics/2009-December/000302.html)... I'd like to see if we can get packagers + upstream on IRC at the same time to just Work Out these licensing issues at one go, because asynch communication is Very Slow. After those blockers are out, I *think* we'll be go for puppetizing. Project 2: Limesurvey This is for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_research#Infrastructure, and seems like it should be relatively straightforward (but then again, that's what I thought for zikula...) Robyn Bergeron and Ryan Rix are driving this from the Marketing side of things, but I'm temporarily stepping in for Ryan since he's afk for exams this week. As far as I know, there's only one package involved in this (limesurvey) which is still under review (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=508817). It *sounds* from the comments like it should be done and ready for approval, but a reviewer (*coughIancough* is needed). In the meantime, I tried installing the latest SRPM from Eric (Sparks) on pt6, and failboated, details here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_set_up_a_limesurvey_sandbox#Install_t…. Once the package is approved and installed on pt6, I *think* that's all we'll need (we might want to change the logo, but that's trivial and I really can't think of anything else atm). In the meantime-meantime, because we need to get the FUDCon survey up yesterday, we're giving limeservice $10 to host a 250-response survey for us so we can start administering that survey tomorrow. That means we'll have a db ready to migrate whenever our limesurvey instance goes up, plus people with familiarity administering limesurvey software via the web interface (some of us, myself included, have used it before and know the rudiments). Questions? Comments? Am I missing something? (Is this helpful?) --Mel

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