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Meeting Log 2009-03-26
by Xavier Lamien 26 Mar '09

26 Mar '09

Here is the meeting log of this week. Also attached an html formatted's ----------- 15:07 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Who's here? 15:07 * skvidal is 15:08 * jds2001 is in the cheap seats 15:08 < ggruener> ping 15:08 -!- mdomsch [n=Matt_Dom(a)cpe-70-124-62-55.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #fedora-meeting 15:08 < mmcgrath> k, lets get started 15:08 * SmootherFrOgZ is 15:08 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Tickets 15:08 < mdomsch> yo 15:09 < mmcgrath> .tiny https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/query?status=new&status=assi… 15:09 < zodbot> mmcgrath: http://tinyurl.com/47e37y 15:09 < mmcgrath> .ticket 1203 15:09 < dgilmore> sup yall 15:09 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #1203 (RFR: x86_64 host for composing spins) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1203 15:09 < mmcgrath> This one's still blocking on me, I'm working with one of the virt guys to figure out what's going on. 15:09 < mmcgrath> it's certainly a bug of somekind 15:09 < mmcgrath> So nothing new there 15:10 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Beta Release Tickets 15:10 < mmcgrath> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/9 15:10 < skvidal> jds2001: there are expensive seats? 15:10 < mmcgrath> Everything here is still good from last week, just been delayed 15:10 -!- bpepple|lt [n=bpepple|(a)adsl-69-214-168-154.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 15:11 < mmcgrath> Right now we're scheduled to do a beta release on the 31st. 15:11 < mmcgrath> f13: that still the case? 15:12 * mmcgrath will assume it is unless he hears otherwise. 15:12 < mmcgrath> So that's it on that 15:12 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Calendar system 15:12 < mmcgrath> Did everyone here the email susmit sent out today? 15:12 < jds2001> no, but i saw it :) 15:12 < skvidal> heh 15:12 < dgilmore> I did 15:12 < mmcgrath> read it 15:12 < dgilmore> te3xt to speech in all its robotic goodness 15:13 < mmcgrath> my fingers can't keep up with my brain anymore, and it seems to be a UDP communication 15:13 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: my main question is how hard will it be to setup that desktop calandering apps can manage 15:13 < mmcgrath> herlo: you around? 15:14 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: no idea 15:15 < mmcgrath> we'll have to see what herlo and susmit come up with. 15:15 < mmcgrath> I'm not even sure what's available and stuff. 15:15 < mmcgrath> seems they're not really around though so we can move on. 15:15 < mmcgrath> anyone have any questions or comments more on the calendar stuff? susmit's not here so it's probably best to take it to the list anyway. 15:16 < dgilmore> take it to the list 15:16 < mmcgrath> cool 15:16 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Cloud Stuff 15:16 < mmcgrath> SmootherFrOgZ: you around? 15:16 < SmootherFrOgZ> yep 15:17 < mmcgrath> sweet 15:17 < mmcgrath> so the hardware finally has network. 15:17 < mmcgrath> as of yesterday 15:17 < mmcgrath> so woot. 15:17 < mmcgrath> I'm going through and getting the RSAII cards fixed up, next is going to be getting the sysadmin-cloud (or whatever that group was) on those hosts. 15:17 < mmcgrath> SmootherFrOgZ: have you seen the latest ovirt release? 15:18 < mmcgrath> 0.97 is out, but it's not obvious from the ovirt.org website, it's just up in their ovirt repo 15:18 < mmcgrath> http://ovirt.org/repos/ovirt/10/x86_64/ 15:18 < SmootherFrOgZ> yeah, i plan to give it a shot this week-end 15:18 < SmootherFrOgZ> and rebuild it for rhel 15:19 < jds2001> why rebuild for rhel? 15:19 < mmcgrath> SmootherFrOgZ: excellent, mind moving the cloud wiki page under Infrastructure/ some place? And I'll get the IP information in there soon. 15:19 < jds2001> these machines run fedora, no? 15:19 < jds2001> or am I missing info again? :D 15:19 < mmcgrath> jds2001: they actually will run Fedora, the nodes anyway 15:19 < SmootherFrOgZ> i don't 15:19 < mmcgrath> :) 15:20 < mmcgrath> So things are going ok there. 15:20 < mmcgrath> We continue to have some... less then easy to work with network restrictions. 15:20 < mmcgrath> for example outbound ntp is currently blocked. 15:20 < mmcgrath> but we're working with the network team to figure out what all to do about that. 15:20 < SmootherFrOgZ> so, will we keep fedora for those boxes ? 15:21 < jds2001> sync'ing time is dangerous stuff you know! 15:21 < mmcgrath> SmootherFrOgZ: probably, that's what their devs are using. 15:22 < SmootherFrOgZ> k. 15:23 < mmcgrath> Anyone have any other questions on that? 15:24 < mmcgrath> k 15:24 < mmcgrath> well with that 15:24 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Open Floor 15:26 < mmcgrath> anyone have anything to discuss? 15:26 < wwoods> a quick question: the current implementation of DebuginfoFS requires >200GB disk and a davfs server. 15:27 < mmcgrath> :) things have gotten quiet. 15:27 < wwoods> is that a ridiculous amount of disk to request in an RFR? 15:27 < mmcgrath> wwoods: you can request whatever you want, not sure we'll be able to accomidate it (at least not without ordering new hardware) 15:27 < mmcgrath> but ask for whatever you think you'll need and we'll see what we can do. 15:28 -!- neverho0d [n=psv(a)vpn-pool-78-139-211-211.tomtel.ru] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:28 < jds2001> oh 15:28 < jds2001> if anyone has leads - http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/hou/1093260152.html :D 15:28 < mmcgrath> wwoods: it gets easier if that 200G doesn't need to be highly available / redundant. 15:28 < mmcgrath> jds2001: heh 15:28 < wwoods> heh. I'm just trying to figure out whether to follow the "get new hardware" path or the "write code so we can just export the files from the RPMs" one 15:29 < mmcgrath> :) 15:29 < mmcgrath> wwoods: go ahead and create the ticket and we can discuss it more. 15:29 < wwoods> they're just unpacked debuginfo RPMs - don't need backups or real HA/redundancy 15:29 < wwoods> fair 'nuff 15:30 < skvidal> jds2001: move out of ny? 15:30 < jds2001> skvidal: more like move *to* ny :) 15:30 < jds2001> i live across the river in jersey now. 15:30 < mmcgrath> jds2001: Well good luck with that. 15:31 < mmcgrath> :) 15:31 < mmcgrath> Anyone have anything else? If not we can close the meeting early. 15:31 < mmcgrath> lots of stuff is on hold from the change freeze :-/ 15:31 < SmootherFrOgZ> just one 15:31 * mdomsch has a MM update pending thaw 15:31 < SmootherFrOgZ> do you guys know what do i need to help luke on getting epel works with bodhi ? 15:32 < SmootherFrOgZ> i'd like to help him and get things done asap 15:32 < mmcgrath> SmootherFrOgZ: I'm not actually sure, We basically have to duplicate (or hopefully simplify a bit) what releng is doing right now 15:32 < mmcgrath> which will mean we need another signing server for epel. 15:32 < mmcgrath> I can do that part. 15:32 < mmcgrath> But as for the coding side of thigns? I'm not sure. 15:32 < mmcgrath> SmootherFrOgZ: I know you use koji at work, is that still true? 15:33 < SmootherFrOgZ> yeah i know for this part but, bodhi need some code update that i can do :) 15:33 < SmootherFrOgZ> mmcgrath: correct 15:33 < mmcgrath> Do you use bodhi too? 15:33 < dgilmore> SmootherFrOgZ: he updated the ticket 15:33 < SmootherFrOgZ> yeah, just in pre-prod for now (i plan to add it to rpmfusion) 15:33 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: which ticket is it? 15:33 * mmcgrath hasn't looked at it in a bit. 15:34 < SmootherFrOgZ> dgilmore: execellent i'll have a look in a couple of minutes 15:34 < mmcgrath> Cool, anyone have anything else? 15:34 < mmcgrath> If not we'll close in 30 15:35 < mmcgrath> 10 15:35 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Meeting Closed 15:35 < mmcgrath> Thanks for coming everyone! -- Xavier.t Lamien -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/XavierLamien GPG-Key ID: F3903DEB Fingerprint: 0F2A 7A17 0F1B 82EE FCBF 1F51 76B7 A28D F390 3DEB

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Infrastructure freeze breakage request: Banner from DL linking to new Transifex
by Asgeir Frimannsson 25 Mar '09

25 Mar '09

Hi folks, Can I get an ack or two to commit a change in the Damned Lies CVS repository that adds a banner to the top of each page with the following content: These pages are served by Damned Lies. You can now use <a href="https://translate.fedoraproject.org/tx/">Transifex</a> for all your translation needs, including viewing Translation Statistics, as well as downloading and committing translations. There might be better ways of saying this - but I'm not in creative-mode today, suggestions welcome :-) Patch follows below. cheers, asgeir Index: header.tmpl =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/l10n/web/flpweb/templates/header.tmpl,v retrieving revision 1.24 diff -r1.24 header.tmpl 119d118 <

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rsync errors on secondary
by Adrian Reber 25 Mar '09

25 Mar '09

I get rsync errors on secondary for the last couple of days: rsync: send_files failed to open "/updates/9/SRPMS/.kde-l10n-4.2.1-1.fc9.src.rpm.eGYiPW" (in fedora-secondary): Permission denied (13) Adrian

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Participation in fedora infrastructure management
by Indosoft 24 Mar '09

24 Mar '09

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Participation in fedora infrastructure management
by nehal dattani 24 Mar '09

24 Mar '09

Hello Everybody, I am member of fedora infrastructure group and fedora ambassadors for some time but was not able to contribute to infrastructure group actively. Now I want to be part of this team and want to contribute actively in infrastructure management. Presently I am working with a small company and managing few servers and desktops here. (We are using fedora on both desktop and server platforms.) I want somebody to help me and guide me about how can i contribute to the infrastructure management. Can anybody please help me? Regards, Nehal Dattani

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Developer UI for PackageDB
by ranjith kannikara 23 Mar '09

23 Mar '09

I name is Ranjith Babu Kannikara. I am a pre-final year student in govt.Engg College Thrissur, kerala(india). I have been learning c,python,and their APIs for quite good amount of time. And Java and Lisp as of now. I have little experience in working with some large code-base from the last year GSOC in which I have worked with the Zope Foundation in project 'Porting Zope2 to python2.5' . My GSOC proposal is for making the PackageDB Developer UI more flexible and friendly for the developers so that It wont waste the valuable time of the developer. The present Developer UI is outdated and needs serious changes and some additional options that will make it easy to handle the acls, within much lesser time and with much less effort. And it implemented by including more check boxes and buttons and by setting reminders for works to be done. The ideas are listed in detail in the wiki page https://fedorahosted.org/packagedb/wiki/NewDevUI The works to be done over the project have a flow like this.. * Aggregating the options that are to be there in the UI. * Arranging the options with check boxes and buttons instead of select boxes. :- ie arranging the options in rows and coloumns with each rows start with a user and the check boxes/buttons in the row contains the permissions that can be given to the user. :- if there is more choice of permissions for each user then checking itself will be annoying then there will be some extra coloumns( 2 or 3 ) of check boxes corresponding to each user like 'give full permissions' 'give minimal permissions' and a custom set . :- these boxes, as their names indicate, will automatically give checkings in a set of boxes the developer may define a custom set if he find himself giving a set of permissions together quite often. ( I can make a picture of how the UI will be like after the summer, and it will be easy for me if I could get the other options than 'Approve' and 'Awaiting for review' ) * After the list of the users a button to add new user can be given which will expand to a text box on click. And this check box will automatically search and match the text with the names in the list user as it is entered in the box. ( Implementing such a button and text box wont be difficult with javascript ). * Such a button can be provided for the co-maintainer/watcher or the button it will be enough to provide provisions in the first button it self to make the new user co-maintainer/watcher once a new user is added.( All these work belongs to the UI and it will not be difficult when each button are defined to perform the background works for these options assigned to them. * In the page, Toshio have given (https://admin.fedoraproject.org/ pkgdb/packages/name/python), we can see links to bug reports, package status etc. Another link named ' Active Requests' can be added there which will refer to a page that lists the active requests. The requests can also be arranged so that it can be handled within no time but this needs me to get an idea about the possible requests a developer can get. * As the requests are being listed it is easy to track what happens to the request and and if a request is being left unnoticed or in some state of waiting this track can be used to get the list of requests that needs sending remainders. ( Here i need some more help from some one else to generate the automatic reminders) * As our implementation of the new UI will be much like a new Interface with either the background or the existing page itself as background for the new UI. In such way of implementation it will be easy to show the respective EOL only and give options to switch in between them. Awaiting your reply Ranju -- http://www.ranjithkannikara.blogspot.com/

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Re: Introducing: Alin Crețu
by Alin Cretu 23 Mar '09

23 Mar '09

Hello, I am snooping around to find some introduction documents or a presentation about procedures used by fedora infrastructure to operate/manages the servers in scope. Unfortunately I could not find any until now. Are there any such introduction documents ? If yes, could somebody actually point me to the right link/document ? It would be nice to have a look and get acquainted with the rules of the game before actually starting to play the game. ;) -------- Forwarded Message -------- > From: cralin(a)gmail.com <cralin(a)gmail.com> > To: Fedora Infrastructure <fedora-infrastructure-list(a)redhat.com> > Subject: Re: Introducing: Alin Crețu > Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:23:20 +0100 > > > On Tue, 2009-03-17 at 08:24 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > > > Welcome Alin, was there a particular FIG you were interested in getting > > involved with? Feel free to stop by #fedora-admin on irc.freenode.net to > > say hello. > > > > -Mike > > _______________________________________________ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list(a)redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > > > > To be honest, at this moment I'm not really sure. > > I guess it's not really important for me to be part of one FIG or the > other as it is helping out whenever/wherever I can. > > Reading the descriptions of the FIGs I think I might be able to hep in > sysadmin, sysadmin-tools, sysadmin-backup and/or sysadmin-noc. However > the descriptions are somewhat short and it might take a while to get > used with the tools/procedures used in each FIG. > > Suggestions are always welcomed :) > >

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Hello
by Trevor Jagoda 23 Mar '09

23 Mar '09

Hello! I am a new prospect to the world of Fedora, and I'd like to help out in the infrastructure team. By day, I am an IT Administrator for a mid-sized manufacturing company, and am currently in the process of attaining a Bachelors Degree in Information Technology. Most of my experience thus far has been with Debian-based distributions, but that is still fairly light (I work for a windows-driven company, and have not had enough time to begin to change that). I would rank myself something above newbie, but certainly somewhere below intermediate. Additionally, I have the entire O'Reily library on Python, but I haven't yet had the time/motivation to start reading through it. I'm hoping that I'll find some projects here to encourage that process along! Hello again, to all! Trevor

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Memory issue
by Mike McGrath 22 Mar '09

22 Mar '09

What am I missing here? This happened on db3 again - total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 18480632 18383512 97120 0 25968 17305332 -/+ buffers/cache: 1052212 17428420 Swap: 3145720 3145720 0 1) This box was swapping out like crazy. 2) All swap was full 3) oomkiller didn't start 4) Load went up a little bit, topped out at 3 5) no issues with the box at all, has postgres on it, kept running, wasn't slow, box was completely responsive. 6) It's done this before, and aside from nagios alerting us the swap was full, not had any issues with the box. 7) vm.swappiness = 60 which IIRC is the default -Mike

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Don't allow inactive accounts to authenticate using basic auth
by Jon Stanley 22 Mar '09

22 Mar '09

Inactive accounts could authenticate to sites using mod_auth_pgsql. Pretty sure all of these apps are not under freeze, but rather be safe. Some +1's?

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