Hello,
We've written a proposal here[1] to move to a more people-centric workflow for newcomers. The idea is that instead of asking newcomers to dive in to tasks as we do now, we'll make them get to know the people in the community first. You can read more on the ticket.
As part of this, we were hoping to set up an FAS group for newbies, and let the Join SIG add newcomers to it while they find their teams and tasks of interest in the community.
In this workflow, infra would no longer have to maintain the wikiedit group as they do so now. It really shouldn't be infra's job in the first place :)
What do we think? Please leave your comments on the ticket. The plan is only a proposal and will change as we get more feedback from the community.
[1] https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/147
On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 17:34 Ankur Sinha sanjay.ankur@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
We've written a proposal here[1] to move to a more people-centric workflow for newcomers. The idea is that instead of asking newcomers to dive in to tasks as we do now, we'll make them get to know the people in the community first. You can read more on the ticket.
As part of this, we were hoping to set up an FAS group for newbies, and let the Join SIG add newcomers to it while they find their teams and tasks of interest in the community.
In this workflow, infra would no longer have to maintain the wikiedit group as they do so now. It really shouldn't be infra's job in the first place :)
What do we think? Please leave your comments on the ticket. The plan is only a proposal and will change as we get more feedback from the community.
I like it. I think it would be useful for a lot of different group workflows which are built around older methods.
[1] https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/147
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This sounds like a awesome idea.
I also didn't know about mindshare repository, thanks for sharing.
Best wishes, Michal
On 7/21/19 10:46 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote:
Hello,
We've written a proposal here[1] to move to a more people-centric workflow for newcomers. The idea is that instead of asking newcomers to dive in to tasks as we do now, we'll make them get to know the people in the community first. You can read more on the ticket.
As part of this, we were hoping to set up an FAS group for newbies, and let the Join SIG add newcomers to it while they find their teams and tasks of interest in the community.
In this workflow, infra would no longer have to maintain the wikiedit group as they do so now. It really shouldn't be infra's job in the first place :)
What do we think? Please leave your comments on the ticket. The plan is only a proposal and will change as we get more feedback from the community.
[1] https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/147
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On 7/21/19 1:46 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote:
Hello,
We've written a proposal here[1] to move to a more people-centric workflow for newcomers. The idea is that instead of asking newcomers to dive in to tasks as we do now, we'll make them get to know the people in the community first. You can read more on the ticket.
As part of this, we were hoping to set up an FAS group for newbies, and let the Join SIG add newcomers to it while they find their teams and tasks of interest in the community.
In this workflow, infra would no longer have to maintain the wikiedit group as they do so now. It really shouldn't be infra's job in the first place :)
Well, the wikiedit group was meant to be a 'catch all' for people who don't want to contribute to any specific group, but wanted to help edit things on the wiki in some area. It was always intended that new onboarding remove any requirement to edit the wiki before people were members of the group.
The entire thing there is anoying... pesky spammers. :)
What do we think? Please leave your comments on the ticket. The plan is only a proposal and will change as we get more feedback from the community.
I think it's worth a try... I'm not sure how effective it will be, but we should definitely try things and see if we can do better than we are now. :)
How can we measure if it's a success or not?
kevin
On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 07:50:31 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
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I think it's worth a try... I'm not sure how effective it will be, but we should definitely try things and see if we can do better than we are now. :)
How can we measure if it's a success or not?
It really depends on what sort of detail we want to analyse it in. A simple metric will be the activity on the fedora-join channels, and the number of newcomers we temporarily add to the new FAS group.
For a more detailed measure, we could see what the average time between membership to this group and to a team is. There's lots more we can do *if* we have the manpower (at the moment, we don't).
I don't know how we'll compare it to the existing processes, though---we haven't had metrics traditionally on onboarding or I'm not aware of them.
I'm personally only looking at increasing activity in the Join SIG channels, concentrating newcomers there where they can be helped in one place and where they can make friends and get comfortable before diving into teams and tasks. I especially don't want to make elaborate plans and major overhauls---they don't tend to go anywhere simply because we don't have the manpower or run out of it before anything substantial can be done. The idea is to make the smallest tweaks to existing processes.
If at all possible, please comment on the ticket so the discussion remains in one place. I wanted to let infra know so that if we do request a new FAS group and take over the "wikiedit" workflow, it doesn't come as a shock :)
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