On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Gilboa Davara gilboad@gmail.com wrote:

On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Rex Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu wrote:

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Just finished up an initial batch of kde-4.10 builds for fedora 17 (finally). I plan on signing and pushing these to kde-unstable repo shortly.

Same warning for these as for the prior f18 builds. These are for early adopters and testers only. In short, if you don't know how to manually downgrade things in case of trouble, I'd recommend you not touch this...yet.

Let us know how it goes and what breaks. :)

-- rex

Thanks!

• Gilboa

4.10 upgrade seems to be a non-issue thus far (apart from having to manually select screensaver as locker). Keep in mind that I don't use kmail so YMMV. Great job!

- Gilboa

Am 02.03.2013 23:20, schrieb Rex Dieter:

On 02/20/2013 11:18 AM, Rex Dieter wrote:

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Just finished up an initial batch of kde-4.10 builds for fedora 17 (finally). I plan on signing and pushing these to kde-unstable repo shortly.

Same warning for these as for the prior f18 builds. These are for early adopters and testers only. In short, if you don't know how to manually downgrade things in case of trouble, I'd recommend you not touch this...yet.

Let us know how it goes and what breaks. :)

so, the kde-sig is seriously considering pushing kde-4.10.x updates officially for f17 too, see our last meeting log, http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-02-26/fedora-meeting.20...

But, we're still lacking enough concrete testing and feedback to make an informed decision. So, please let us know if you're using this, and how it is all working for you, good or bad

still the only thing which makes me crazy is that desktip widgets are randomly ignored after login, anything else works perfectly

Martin Kho wrote:

1. kde-print-manager-4.10.0-1.fc17.x86_64 didn't replace

kde-printer-applet and system-config-printer-kde. I had to do this manually.

We haven't made the final decision what to do about those on F17.

Kevin Kofler

Am 09.03.2013 18:29, schrieb Rex Dieter:

The kde-sig decided this past weeks' meeting to move forward with the plan to bring kde-4.10 to f17. In the meantime, we've been working on kde-4.10.1 builds, and it's all in the f17/kde-testing repo now. A bodhi update for updates-testing is prepped and will be queue'd soon (within a few days).

4.10.1 works pretty fine as 4.10.0 did, only the problem that desktop-widgets are ignored randomly after re-login is still there and what i do not understand wo is touching "plasma-desktop-appletsrc" all the time

the last time i have unlocked widgets is days ago but the last change of the file within the last 30 minutes and this smells for me like a race-condition due logout

[harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ ls /home/harry/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc -rw------- 1 harry verwaltung 8,5K 2013-03-09 18:30 /home/harry/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc

Am 10.03.2013 09:40, schrieb Gilboa Davara:

On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Reindl Harald h.reindl@thelounge.net wrote:

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Am 09.03.2013 18:29, schrieb Rex Dieter:

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The kde-sig decided this past weeks' meeting to move forward with the plan to bring kde-4.10 to f17. In the meantime, we've been working on kde-4.10.1 builds, and it's all in the f17/kde-testing repo now. A bodhi update for updates-testing is prepped and will be queue'd soon (within a few days).

4.10.1 works pretty fine as 4.10.0 did, only the problem that desktop-widgets are ignored randomly after re-login is still there and what i do not understand wo is touching "plasma-desktop-appletsrc" all the time

the last time i have unlocked widgets is days ago but the last change of the file within the last 30 minutes and this smells for me like a race-condition due logout

[harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ ls /home/harry/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc -rw------- 1 harry verwaltung 8,5K 2013-03-09 18:30 /home/harry/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc

I've got 4.10.1 running on 3 F17 machines, and non-of-them seem to reproduce this issue. FWIW the appletrc came unmodified from 4.9.x.

i have for sure not touched anything or unlocked the widgets

[harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ ls /home/harry/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc -rw------- 1 harry verwaltung 8,5K 2013-03-10 12:04 /home/harry/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc

this is really strange here

after the first login with 4.10.0 all widgets and backround was gone the third login brought them back randomly they gone away again and decided never come back

if you look at the bottom of my config file you see the defaults with growing numbers by having my configuration still in the file

if i remove all the added block after logout and give mine the highest number and the activityId from the however added one they come back and stay sometimes for days, this is completly random

[Containments][69] ActionPluginsSource=Global activity=Neue Aktivität activityId=e6965ced-32ea-4b53-a62e-fe50e4b46b9b

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[harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ cat /home/harry/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc [ActionPlugins] MidButton;NoModifier=paste RightButton;NoModifier=contextmenu wheel:Vertical;NoModifier=switchdesktop

[AppletGlobals][plasma_applet_sm_temperature] acpi/Thermal_Zone/0/Temperature=Temperature acpi/Thermal_Zone/0/Temperature_offset=0.0 acpi/Thermal_Zone/1/Temperature=Temperature acpi/Thermal_Zone/1/Temperature_offset=0.0 lmsensors/acpitz-virtual-0/temp1=temp1 lmsensors/acpitz-virtual-0/temp1_offset=0.0 lmsensors/acpitz-virtual-0/temp2=temp2 lmsensors/acpitz-virtual-0/temp2_offset=0.0 lmsensors/coretemp-isa-0000/Core_0=Core 0 lmsensors/coretemp-isa-0000/Core_0_offset=0.0 lmsensors/coretemp-isa-0000/Core_1=Core 1 lmsensors/coretemp-isa-0000/Core_1_offset=0.0 lmsensors/coretemp-isa-0000/Core_2=Core 2 lmsensors/coretemp-isa-0000/Core_2_offset=0.0 lmsensors/coretemp-isa-0000/Core_3=Core 3 lmsensors/coretemp-isa-0000/Core_3_offset=0.0 lmsensors/coretemp-isa-0000/Physical_id_0=Physical id 0 lmsensors/coretemp-isa-0000/Physical_id_0_offset=0.0

[Containments][1] activity= activityId= desktop=-1 formfactor=2 geometry=0,-35,1920,29 immutability=1 lastDesktop=-1 lastScreen=0 location=3 plugin=panel screen=0 zvalue=0

[Containments][1][ActionPlugins] RightButton;NoModifier=contextmenu

[Containments][1][Applets][11] geometry=0,0,27,27 immutability=2 plugin=lancelot_launcher zvalue=0

[Containments][1][Applets][11][Configuration] Share=false activate=click geometry=0,0,28,28 hiddenCategories= icon=fedora-logo-icon immutability=2 plugin=lancelot_launcher show=main zvalue=0

[Containments][1][Applets][11][LayoutInformation] Order=0

[Containments][1][Applets][16] geometry=62,0,162,27 immutability=2 plugin=quicklaunch zvalue=4

[Containments][1][Applets][16][Configuration] Share=false launchers=file:///home/harry/.local/share/applications/ZendStudio.desktop,file:///home/harry/.local/share/applications/thunderbird-2.desktop,file:///usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop,file:///home/harry/.local/share/applications/kde4-konsole.desktop,file:///home/harry/.local/share/applications/kate-3.desktop,file:///home/harry/.local/share/applications/kde4/Konqueror.desktop launchersOnPopup=

[Containments][1][Applets][16][LayoutInformation] Order=2

[Containments][1][Applets][17] geometry=31,0,27,27 immutability=2 plugin=showdesktop zvalue=6

[Containments][1][Applets][17][LayoutInformation] Order=1

[Containments][1][Applets][28] geometry=1754,0,81,27 immutability=2 plugin=quicklaunch zvalue=98

[Containments][1][Applets][28][Configuration] launchers=file:///home/harry/.local/share/applications/vCenter.desktop,file:///home/harry/.local/share/applications/Windows XP.desktop,file:///home/harry/.local/share/applications/kde4-ksnapshot.desktop launchersOnPopup=

[Containments][1][Applets][28][LayoutInformation] Order=5

[Containments][1][Applets][5] geometry=228,0,1244,27 immutability=2 plugin=tasks zvalue=1

[Containments][1][Applets][5][Configuration] Share=false forceRows=false groupWhenFull=true groupingStrategy=0 highlightWindows=true maxRows=1 showOnlyCurrentActivity=false showOnlyCurrentDesktop=false showOnlyCurrentScreen=false showOnlyMinimized=false showTooltip=false sortingStrategy=1

[Containments][1][Applets][5][LayoutInformation] Order=3

[Containments][1][Applets][6] geometry=1476,0,274,27 immutability=2 plugin=systemtray zvalue=2

[Containments][1][Applets][6][Configuration] DefaultAppletsAdded=true Share=false ShowApplicationStatus=true ShowCommunications=true ShowHardware=true ShowSystemServices=true ShowUnknown=true alwaysShown=Kopete,KMix hidden=Klipper

[Containments][1][Applets][6][Configuration][Applets][1] geometry=0,0,24,24 immutability=1 plugin=printmanager zvalue=0

[Containments][1][Applets][6][Configuration][Applets][1][PopupApplet] DialogHeight=274 DialogWidth=508

[Containments][1][Applets][6][Configuration][Applets][1][Shortcuts] global=

[Containments][1][Applets][6][Configuration][Applets][10] geometry=0,0,24,24 immutability=1 plugin=org.kde.notifications zvalue=0

[Containments][1][Applets][6][Configuration][Applets][10][PopupApplet] DialogHeight=88 DialogWidth=448

[Containments][1][Applets][6][Configuration][Applets][10][Shortcuts] global=

[Containments][1][Applets][6][Configuration][Applets][9] geometry=0,0,24,24 immutability=1 plugin=notifier zvalue=0

[Containments][1][Applets][6][Configuration][Applets][9][Shortcuts] global=

[Containments][1][Applets][6][Configuration][Shortcuts] SystemTray-Klipper-6=Ctrl+Alt+V

[Containments][1][Applets][6][LayoutInformation] Order=4

[Containments][1][Applets][7] geometry=1839,0,81,27 immutability=2 plugin=digital-clock zvalue=7

[Containments][1][Applets][7][Configuration] Share=false announceInterval=0 calendarType=locale dateStyle=0 defaultTimezone=Local displayEvents=true displayHolidays=true holidaysRegions=at_de holidaysRegionsDaysOff=at_de plainClockColor=0,0,0 plainClockDrawShadow=false plainClockFont=DejaVu Sans,27,-1,5,75,0,0,0,0,0 showSeconds=true showTimezone=false timeZones= useCustomColor=true useCustomShadowColor=false

[Containments][1][Applets][7][LayoutInformation] Order=6

[Containments][1][Applets][7][PopupApplet] DialogHeight=317 DialogWidth=664

[Containments][1][Configuration] maximumSize=1920,29 minimumSize=1920,29

[Containments][68] ActionPluginsSource=Global activity=Neue Aktivität activityId=9f31344b-3bef-4afb-8a77-0041b40dfdfa desktop=-1 formfactor=0 geometry=0,0,1920,1080 immutability=1 lastDesktop=-1 lastScreen=0 location=0 plugin=desktop screen=-1 wallpaperplugin=image wallpaperpluginmode=SingleImage zvalue=0

[Containments][68][Applets][61] geometry=1566,29,364,138 immutability=2 plugin=systemloadviewer zvalue=495

[Containments][68][Applets][61][Configuration] Share=false colour_cpu_disk=#ff0000 colour_cpu_nice=#00ff00 colour_cpu_sys=#808000 colour_ram_buffers=#dcdcdc colour_ram_cached=#808000 show_multiple_cpus=true update_interval=750

[Containments][68][Applets][62] geometry=nan,nan,16777215,16777215 immutability=2 plugin=ihatethecashew zvalue=0

[Containments][68][Applets][63] geometry=1566,132,364,249 immutability=2 plugin=sm_net zvalue=496

[Containments][68][Applets][63][Configuration] Share=false interfaces=network/interfaces/eth1/transmitter/data,network/interfaces/eth0/transmitter/data,network/interfaces/br0/transmitter/data interval=1

[Containments][68][Applets][64] geometry=1566,346,364,218 immutability=2 plugin=sm_temperature zvalue=504

[Containments][68][Applets][64][Configuration] Share=false interval=1 temps=lmsensors/coretemp-isa-0000/Physical_id_0

[Containments][68][Applets][65] geometry=1565,530,365,218 immutability=2 plugin=sm_hdd zvalue=501

[Containments][68][Applets][66] geometry=0,31,1236,468 immutability=2 plugin=folderview zvalue=463

[Containments][68][Applets][66][Configuration] Share=false alignToGrid=true blankLabel=false clickForFolderPreviews=true customIconSize=64 customLabel=Desktop drawShadows=false filter=0 filterFiles=* flow=0 geometry=0,31,1236,468 iconsLocked=false immutability=1 mimeFilter= numTextLines=2 plugin=folderview savedPositions=1,11,netatalk-dbd.log,655,10,font.tgz,913,10,afp.conf,139,10,afp-check-databases.sh,10,10,netatalk-browse.log,526,10,AppleVolumes.default,268,10,afp-permissions.txt,139,131,netatalk.spec,1042,10,setfattr,397,10,netatalk.log,784,10,config.log,10,131 showPreviews=true sortColumn=-1 url=file:///home/harry/Desktop zvalue=463

[Containments][68][Applets][67] geometry=0,485,1236,494 immutability=2 plugin=folderview zvalue=470

[Containments][68][Applets][67][Configuration] Share=false alignToGrid=false blankLabel=false clickForFolderPreviews=true customIconSize=64 customLabel=Downloads drawShadows=false filter=0 filterFiles=* flow=0 geometry=0,485,1236,494 iconsLocked=false immutability=1 mimeFilter= numTextLines=2 plugin=folderview showPreviews=true sortColumn=0 url=file:///downloads zvalue=470

[Containments][68][Wallpaper][image] slideTimer=10 slidepaths=/usr/share/wallpapers/ userswallpapers=/home/harry/.wallpapers/kde-original.png wallpaper=/home/harry/.wallpapers/kde-original.png wallpapercolor=0,0,0 wallpaperposition=0

[Containments][69] ActionPluginsSource=Global activity=Neue Aktivität activityId=e6965ced-32ea-4b53-a62e-fe50e4b46b9b desktop=-1 formfactor=0 geometry=1926,0,1920,1080 immutability=1 lastDesktop=-1 lastScreen=0 location=0 plugin=desktop screen=0 wallpaperplugin=image wallpaperpluginmode=SingleImage zvalue=0

[Containments][69][Applets][70] geometry=nan,nan,16777215,16777215 immutability=2 plugin=ihatethecashew zvalue=0

[Containments][69][Wallpaper][image] slideTimer=10 slidepaths=/usr/share/wallpapers/ userswallpapers= wallpaper=/usr/share/wallpapers/Spherical_Cow wallpapercolor=0,0,0 wallpaperposition=0

[General] immutability=2