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Fedora Chinese Meeting Minutes (2013-05-31)
by Alick Zhao 31 May '13

31 May '13

Hi all, The IRC meeting minutes tonight are available at the link [1]. Thanks everyone for attending the meeting. In the meeting we talked about FUDCon APAC 2014 bid progress, FPWiki Zh page updates, L10N and so on. Please review the proposed ideas and actions. The next IRC meeting will be held on next Friday (2013-06-07). Please come and join the discussion if you can! [1]: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2013-05-31/fedora-zh.2013-05-31-… ================== #fedora-zh Meeting ================== Meeting started by alick at 13:01:17 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2013-05-31/fedora-zh.2013-05-31-… . Meeting summary --------------- * 点名 (alick, 13:01:27) * FUDCON APAC 2014 申办筹备 (alick, 13:08:55) * ACTION: alick ask Xie Yunpeng in mailing list about xiecheng (alick, 13:21:08) * ACTION: alick find and check 外研社会议中心 (alick, 13:26:16) * FPWiki Zh 页面的整理更新 (alick, 13:28:43) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FZUGCommunicate (alick, 13:29:14) * 中文翻译、文档翻译 (alick, 13:35:44) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAQ/zh-cn (alick, 13:42:40) * ACTION: alick endle everyone 更新并完成维基上 FAQ 的中文翻译 (alick, 13:44:43) * IDEA: endle 翻译 FAQ 4.3 - 4.10 (endle, 13:48:00) * IDEA: alick 翻译 FAQ 4.20 及之后的部分 (alick, 13:48:19) * IDEA: zsun 翻译FAQ 4.11-4.15 (zsun, 13:50:10) * 线下活动 (alick, 13:53:36) Meeting ended at 14:03:38 UTC. Action Items ------------ * alick ask Xie Yunpeng in mailing list about xiecheng * alick find and check 外研社会议中心 * alick endle everyone 更新并完成维基上 FAQ 的中文翻译 Action Items, by person ----------------------- * alick * alick ask Xie Yunpeng in mailing list about xiecheng * alick find and check 外研社会议中心 * alick endle everyone 更新并完成维基上 FAQ 的中文翻译 * endle * alick endle everyone 更新并完成维基上 FAQ 的中文翻译 * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * alick (57) * endle (23) * zsun (23) * zodbot (13) * BadGirl (3) * biergaizi (3) * CyrusYzGTt (0) * kaio (0) * hers (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Summary/Minutes from today's Fedora infrastructure meeting (2013-05-30)
by Kevin Fenzi 30 May '13

30 May '13

============================================ #fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2013-05-30) ============================================ Meeting started by nirik at 18:59:59 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-05-30/infrastructure.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * welcome to the machine (nirik, 18:59:59) * New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks (nirik, 19:01:54) * Applications status / discussion (nirik, 19:05:56) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/3807 (nirik, 19:10:19) * Sysadmin status / discussion (nirik, 19:14:28) * ansible migration continues well (nirik, 19:14:44) * authopenid is now handling /login on our hosted trac instances (puiterwijk, 19:15:04) * ACTION: nirik to schedule mass reboot next week (nirik, 19:17:45) * Private Cloud status update / discussion (nirik, 19:18:28) * Upcoming Tasks/Items (nirik, 19:19:01) * LINK: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/ (nirik, 19:19:01) * Open Floor (nirik, 19:19:54) * flock proposal deadline is tomorrow. Submit your talks/hackfests/etc now. ;) (nirik, 19:20:56) Meeting ended at 19:34:06 UTC. Action Items ------------ * nirik to schedule mass reboot next week Action Items, by person ----------------------- * nirik * nirik to schedule mass reboot next week * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (79) * threebean (26) * lmacken (8) * kc4zvw_p (7) * zodbot (4) * pingou (4) * relrod (4) * puiterwijk (2) * smooge (1) * oddshocks (1) * jerzyr (1) * abadger1999 (0) * ricky (0) * mdomsch (0) * skvidal (0) * dgilmore (0) * CodeBlock (0) -- 18:59:59 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2013-05-30) 18:59:59 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu May 30 18:59:59 2013 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:59:59 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 18:59:59 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure 18:59:59 <nirik> #topic welcome to the machine 18:59:59 <nirik> #chair smooge skvidal CodeBlock ricky nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch threebean 18:59:59 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure' 18:59:59 <zodbot> Current chairs: CodeBlock abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik ricky skvidal smooge threebean 19:00:20 * lmacken 19:00:40 * relrod here 19:00:45 <jerzyr> is here 19:00:49 * oddshocks here 19:00:56 * puiterwijk is lurking around 19:01:51 <nirik> ok, lets dive on in. 19:01:54 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks 19:02:01 <nirik> any new folks or apprentices with questions or comments? 19:02:24 <kc4zvw_p> My name is David 19:02:39 <nirik> welcome again kc4zvw_p :) 19:03:17 <kc4zvw_p> I have been checking the extent of the websites that Fedora has 19:03:39 <nirik> kc4zvw_p: if you want to work on websites, we have a subteam that does website work. ;) 19:03:51 <nirik> (if you mean applications we have a number of those we develop too) 19:04:28 <kc4zvw_p> My own website show that I am a web guy :-) 19:04:41 <kc4zvw_p> am not! 19:05:09 <nirik> :) well, welcome and do ask questions or look around and see where you can find areas to help in. ;) 19:05:23 * nirik suspects from your nick that you are a ham also. ;) 19:05:30 <kc4zvw_p> yes 19:05:44 <nirik> cool. 19:05:56 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion 19:06:09 <nirik> any applications status/news/discussion this week? 19:06:19 <nirik> we are out of freeze now, so things will likely pick up 19:06:56 * lmacken has been doing a bunch of bodhi2 hacking, as well as fixing some bodhi1 bugs 19:06:56 <pingou> fedocal 0.2.0 still on its way 19:07:15 <nirik> lmacken: cool. :) Any idea when there might be a dev instance for people to look at? 19:07:24 <nirik> pingou: any ideas on eta? or when it's ready? 19:07:28 <lmacken> nirik: I'm shooting for flock at the latest 19:07:38 <relrod> Fedora Mobile just got (a slightly hacky version of) package searching functionality, for anyone following that project. http://images.srv1.elrod.me/fedora-mobile-package-search-ish.png 19:07:48 <lmacken> focusing on the api first, shiny frontend later :) 19:07:54 <nirik> lmacken: awesome. 19:08:09 <nirik> relrod: is the .apk available for install already? 19:08:51 <nirik> relrod: also, I guess once it's more 1.0ey, you should submit to f-droid. ;) 19:08:51 <relrod> nirik: There's an APK of master HEAD always available at http://da.gd/j (which is http://jenkins.cloud.fedoraproject.org/job/fedora-mobile/ws/target/fedora-m…) 19:09:07 <relrod> but it's not in a very pretty state right now 19:09:17 <nirik> ah, ok. 19:10:00 <pingou> nirik: when it is ready, but it's getting there 19:10:03 <nirik> so, dunno if folks have seen it, but the anaconda folks have asked us for a geoip lookup thing... 19:10:10 <pingou> I only have one thing left on the TODO atm 19:10:19 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/3807 19:10:42 <nirik> if anyone has spare cycles to look at moving that forward that would be lovely. Otherwise, I will try and do so. 19:10:48 * threebean joins in late 19:11:19 <nirik> threebean: any apps news? 19:11:35 <threebean> nirik: lots off local work on badges 19:11:51 <threebean> still nothing quite ready for infra 19:11:54 * pingou gtg 19:11:55 <nirik> yeah, I need to setup instances for those soon... was that stg or prod? 19:12:05 <threebean> oh, stg at first. 19:12:18 <nirik> also, we are going to try and move the gallery instance forward... 19:13:16 <nirik> I think the geoip thing can live on proxies... but I could be wrong, will have to look more. 19:14:12 <nirik> any other apps news? 19:14:28 <nirik> #topic Sysadmin status / discussion 19:14:33 <nirik> lets see... 19:14:44 <nirik> #info ansible migration continues well 19:14:57 <nirik> we have the new kernel-qa boxes setup in ansible. 19:15:04 <puiterwijk> #info authopenid is now handling /login on our hosted trac instances 19:15:05 <nirik> we also have a new mirrorlist instance using it. 19:15:17 <nirik> (this will be the split out mirrorlists thing) 19:15:44 <nirik> smooge is heads down in ppc setup right now. 19:16:01 <smooge> something something something 19:16:02 <nirik> our new bladecenter is almost all arrived... one more part 19:16:45 <nirik> our sync of data to new netapp space is slowly moving along. 19:16:57 <nirik> it's done 9.3TB of 13TB 19:17:22 <nirik> I want to look at possibly doing a mass reboot next week sometime... 19:17:32 <nirik> to pick up all the updates that came out and the newest kernel everywhere. 19:17:45 <nirik> #action nirik to schedule mass reboot next week 19:18:07 <nirik> any other sysadmin news? 19:18:28 <nirik> #topic Private Cloud status update / discussion 19:18:34 <nirik> Not much new on the cloud front. 19:18:52 <nirik> Things are going along ok with our current setup, we need to test the newer versions 19:19:01 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items 19:19:01 <nirik> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/ 19:19:08 <nirik> look, a calendar. ;) 19:19:13 <nirik> I even added more things to it. 19:19:23 <nirik> anything anyone would like to schedule or note? 19:19:54 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 19:20:08 <nirik> ok, anything for open floor? Is this thing on? Should I cut back to decaf? :) 19:20:14 <threebean> :P 19:20:40 <nirik> oh, one other thing to note: 19:20:56 <nirik> #info flock proposal deadline is tomorrow. Submit your talks/hackfests/etc now. ;) 19:21:40 <threebean> hm, on the "composedb" app.. 19:21:55 <threebean> nirik: you mentioned it in the automation thread on the infra list. 19:22:03 <nirik> yeah. dgilmore was the one wanting that. ;) 19:22:06 * threebean nods 19:22:18 * nirik thinks it would make a lot of sense. 19:22:32 <threebean> do you think it would be useful to *just* write a web frontend for the compose process without going into and rewriting all the cron scripts? 19:22:39 <threebean> s/you/anyone/ 19:22:49 <threebean> a simple status dashboard 19:22:54 <nirik> hum. not sure. 19:23:09 <nirik> I guess the information could be of use ro. 19:23:16 <lmacken> I think the 'db' aspect of composedb is important to the whole vision 19:23:19 <nirik> and could easily be gathered by datagrepper? 19:23:25 * threebean nods 19:23:50 <nirik> but yeah, thats basically just a prettier status thing... for it to really be useful it would need to be able to do composes, etc. 19:23:59 * threebean nods 19:24:04 <nirik> I guess check with dgilmore and see what he thinks? 19:24:33 <nirik> one thing that might be good is to write up a requirements doc/wiki page so we can see if it could be done in parts or anything. 19:24:48 <threebean> agreed -- that would help scope it. 19:25:20 <threebean> architecturally, we should avoid combining background processes and webapps into one codebase or one "project" 19:25:30 <threebean> I'm kind of in love with mailman3 after learning about it last week ;) 19:25:33 <nirik> I could try and make a skeleton wiki page and see if dgilmore can fill it in more/fix it. 19:25:47 <threebean> the mailman3 background process is its own think.. and provides hooks for different kinds of web interfaces to be attached to it. 19:25:48 <nirik> yeah, I like them being different parts. 19:26:59 <threebean> cool. I'd like to start working on it sometime after flock (after badges launch).. so, a ways off. 19:27:09 <nirik> awesome 19:27:51 <nirik> I'll see what I can whip up. 19:28:00 <threebean> nirik: awesome, thank you :) 19:28:18 <nirik> any other questions/comments/ideas/things for discussion? 19:29:20 * nirik will close out the meeting early then in a minute. ;) 19:29:57 <threebean> oh - we just hit 500 simultaneous fedmsg users on the proxies ;) 19:30:09 <kc4zvw_p> What is a 'flock' ... an event? 19:30:11 <nirik> oh nice. ;) 19:30:19 <nirik> kc4zvw_p: yep. ;) http://flocktofedora.org 19:30:27 <kc4zvw_p> ok 19:30:42 <nirik> threebean: are we anywhere going to hit into capacity with that anytime soon? 19:31:07 <threebean> nirik: nowhere close to it yet. 19:31:10 <lmacken> threebean: woot 19:31:25 <nirik> good. :) I didn't think so, but just being paranoid. 19:31:34 <nirik> perhaps that deserves a short blog post. ;) 19:31:54 <threebean> oo 19:32:09 <lmacken> I wrote a script to count the number of people on The Bus ;) https://gist.github.com/lmacken/5578372 19:32:19 <threebean> lmacken: yeah, you wrote it. wanna do the honors? 19:32:39 <lmacken> threebean: go for it if you want :) 19:32:51 * threebean nods 19:33:00 <nirik> you could call it 'ridership' stats. ;) 19:33:23 <threebean> gotta Ride the Bus 19:33:37 <threebean> so good 19:33:44 <nirik> :) 19:34:03 <nirik> ok, thanks for coming everyone. Continue in #fedora-admin / #fedora-noc / #fedora-apps 19:34:06 <nirik> #endmeeting

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F19 Final Blocker Bug Review #1.1 Minutes
by Tim Flink 30 May '13

30 May '13

=================================================== #fedora-blocker-review: f19final-blocker-review-1.1 =================================================== Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-05-30/f19final-… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-05-30/f19final-… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-05-30/f19final-… Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (tflink, 16:02:30) * Introduction (tflink, 16:21:13) * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and freeze exception bugs. (tflink, 16:21:20) * We'll be following the process outlined at: (tflink, 16:21:28) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (tflink, 16:21:28) * The bugs up for review today are available at: (tflink, 16:21:34) * LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (tflink, 16:21:34) * The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (tflink, 16:21:41) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Final_Release_Criteria (tflink, 16:21:41) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Beta_Release_Criteria (tflink, 16:21:44) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Alpha_Release_Criteria (tflink, 16:21:47) * Up for review today, we have: (tflink, 16:21:50) * 11 Proposed Blockers (tflink, 16:21:57) * 4 Accepted Blockers (tflink, 16:21:57) * 11 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (tflink, 16:21:57) * 7 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (tflink, 16:21:57) * (965865) ValueError: ('invalid size specification', '-880.000000 MB') (tflink, 16:23:07) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=965865 (tflink, 16:23:10) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 16:23:13) * AGREED: 965865 - The cause of this is still very unclear, will revisit at a later meeting (tflink, 16:30:09) * (967527) /root/anaconda-ks.cfg crashes anaconda (tflink, 16:30:44) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=967527 (tflink, 16:30:44) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 16:30:44) * LINK: http://www.happyassassin.net/ks/967527.ks (adamw, 16:49:03) * AGREED: 967527 - some people can reproduce the behavior, others are not able to. will split this bug into two for the different issues and will revisit after dev input (tflink, 16:56:36) * (968915) Anaconda locks user account instead of creating it password-less (tflink, 16:56:50) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=968915 (tflink, 16:56:53) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 16:56:56) * AGREED: 968915 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F19 alpha release criterion for installs with a passwordless user created during install: "After firstboot is completed and on subsequent boots, a graphical install must boot to a log in screen where it is possible to log in to a working desktop as the user created during firstboot." (tflink, 17:01:06) * (968951) User data from first boot are copied to new users (tflink, 17:01:21) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=968951 (tflink, 17:01:21) * Proposed Blocker, gnome-initial-setup, NEW (tflink, 17:01:21) * AGREED: 968951 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F19 final release criterion when creating a second user right after running gnome-initial-setup for an admin user: "The release must contain no known security bugs of 'important' or higher impact according to the Red Hat severity classification scale which cannot be satisfactorily resolved by a package update (e.g. issues during installation)" (tflink, 17:11:59) * (919855) [abrt] gnome-settings-daemon-3.7.91-1.fc19: getenv: Process /usr/libexec/gnome-settings-daemon was killed by signal 11 (SIGSEGV) (tflink, 17:12:17) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=919855 (tflink, 17:12:20) * Proposed Blocker, gnome-settings-daemon, NEW (tflink, 17:12:22) * AGREED: 919855 - While this seems like it has blocker potential, it isn't a clear criteria violation and it would be better to have more than 3 people voting to take it as a blocker. Will revisit at the next review meeting (tflink, 17:25:52) * (968936) SIGSEGV of packagekit-offline-update.service during update (tflink, 17:26:07) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=968936 (tflink, 17:26:10) * Proposed Blocker, PackageKit, NEW (tflink, 17:26:12) * AGREED: 968936 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F19 alpha release criteria for gnome's offline updates: "The installed system must be able to download and install updates with yum and with the default graphical package manager in all release-blocking desktops" (tflink, 17:41:46) * (968794) KDE keyboard input impossible with ibus enabled and qt updated to 4.8.4-18 (tflink, 17:41:55) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=968794 (tflink, 17:41:58) * Proposed Blocker, qt, NEW (tflink, 17:42:01) * AGREED: 968794 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F19 final criterion for users who rely on ibus input on KDE: " All elements of the default panel (or equivalent) configuration in all release-blocking desktops must function correctly in common use" (tflink, 17:50:04) * (969032) IOError: [Errno 9] Bad file descriptor (tflink, 17:53:12) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=969032 (tflink, 17:53:12) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 17:53:12) * AGREED: 969032 - There isn't much data to go off of here. Ask reporter to try with a different usb stick and will revisit at a later review meeting. (tflink, 18:10:42) * (965841) anaconda no longer creates /etc/sysconfig/network, systems without NetworkManager do not bring up network (tflink, 18:14:24) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=965841 (tflink, 18:14:26) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, anaconda, POST (tflink, 18:14:29) * AGREED: 965841 - AcceptedFreezeException - While not quite a blocker, this could be a big problem for systems which don't have NetworkManager installed. A tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 18:18:29) * (967660) anaconda erases additional biosboot partitions outside of what was setup for 'reformat' (destroys spare biosboot partitions one might have on other disks) (tflink, 18:18:37) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=967660 (tflink, 18:18:41) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 18:18:43) * AGREED: 967660 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F19 final release criterion for systems with multiple gpt biosboot partitions: "All known bugs that can cause corruption of user data must be fixed or documented at Common F19 bugs" (tflink, 18:24:32) * (966784) anaconda storage spoke is left in 'warning checking storage configuration' with the 'begin install' button unlocked (logs shows that the spoke is ready) (tflink, 18:24:47) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=966784 (tflink, 18:24:51) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 18:24:53) * AGREED: 966784 - RejectedFreezeException - This may not be clear to users, but it is by design. If anaconda devs want to change the dialog, please re-propose. (tflink, 18:30:24) * (881403) Anaconda doesn't correctly infer if system clock shows UTC or local time (tflink, 18:30:34) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=881403 (tflink, 18:30:37) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, anaconda, POST (tflink, 18:30:39) * AGREED: 881403 - AcceptedFreezeException - This was a commonly reported issue in F18 and a fix has been in the works for a while now. A tested fix would be considered after freeze. (tflink, 18:37:30) * (963958) dialog-warning-symbolic.svg (used as the 'warning triangle' emblem in anaconda) is now grey; if anaconda wants the old orange one, anaconda should ship it (tflink, 18:37:38) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=963958 (tflink, 18:37:42) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, anaconda, VERIFIED (tflink, 18:37:44) * AGREED: 963958 - AcceptedFreezeException - This fixes a visual issue that confused many people in beta. A tested fix would be considered after freeze. (tflink, 18:39:57) * (967682) Check mark used to indicate selected target disks on Installation Destination is not sufficiently obvious (tflink, 18:40:06) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=967682 (tflink, 18:40:09) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 18:40:11) * AGREED: 967682 - AcceptedFreezeException - This would fix a decent amount of confusion regarding disk selection in the UI. A tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 18:48:11) * (968023) NFSv3 mount of installation repository fails unless 'nolock' option is passed (tflink, 18:48:15) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=968023 (tflink, 18:48:18) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, anaconda, POST (tflink, 18:48:21) * AGREED: 968023 - AcceptedFreezeException - This would eliminate a workaround required for nfs3 repos at install time. A tested fix would be considered after freeze. (tflink, 18:52:49) * Open Floor (tflink, 18:55:17) Meeting ended at 19:02:49 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * tflink (218) * adamw (189) * kparal (160) * ignatenkobrain (26) * zodbot (7) * satellit (7) * jreznik (2) * satellit_e (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Fedora ARM Weekly Status Meeting Minutes 2013-05-29
by Paul Whalen 29 May '13

29 May '13

Thanks to those that were able to join for the status meeting today, for those unable the minutes are posted below: Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-05-29/fedora-meeting… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-05-29/fedora-meeting… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-05-29/fedora-meeting… =================================================== #fedora-meeting-1: Fedora ARM weekly status meeting =================================================== Meeting summary --------------- * 0) Status of ACTION items from our previous meeting (pwhalen, 20:01:43) * LINK: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-05-22/fedora-meeting… (pwhalen, 20:01:43) * complete -pwhalen to post ks used for highbank F19 Beta RC2 Install, add to the vfad wiki page. Beta ks added to wiki. (pwhalen, 20:02:09) * complete -pwhalen to post new image/instructions to the wiki for aarch64 quickstart (pwhalen, 20:02:28) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/AArch64/QuickStart (pwhalen, 20:02:28) * kickstarts used in f19 arm beta are in the spins git repo (bconoboy, 20:03:37) * LINK: https://git.fedorahosted.org/git/spin-kickstarts.git (pwhalen, 20:03:45) * 1) Problem packages (pwhalen, 20:05:33) * eclipse keeps hitting 24hr limit on builders (pwhalen, 20:07:29) * from last last week - systemd's kernel-install calls new-kernel-pkg with wrong parameters (CLOSED) BZ#965897 (pwhalen, 20:09:44) * koji default timeout of 24 hours is too short for eclipse on current builders (bconoboy, 20:13:13) * 2) Kernel Status Update (pwhalen, 20:14:25) * 3.9 good. 3.10 bad. (bconoboy, 20:18:37) * jonmasters working on panda graphics issue (bconoboy, 20:21:21) * kylem_rht working on versatile express graphics issue (bconoboy, 20:21:34) * If you have a trimslice pro, please test the proscribed hdparm workaround on arm(a)lists.fp.o (bconoboy, 20:26:03) * "Topic: Re: Issues to solve before F19 ARM GA" (bconoboy, 20:26:17) * LINK: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/arm/2013-May/006083.html (pwhalen, 20:26:29) * 3) Aarch64 Status Update, problem packages (pwhalen, 20:27:04) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/AArch64/Stage4_Problem_Pac… (pwhalen, 20:29:38) * ghc requires upstream aarch64 support (bconoboy, 20:32:15) * LINK: Join in, visit http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/AArch64/QuickStart (bconoboy, 20:35:40) * 4) Blockers for F19 GA (pwhalen, 20:36:12) * LINK: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/arm/2013-May/006083.html (pwhalen, 20:36:24) * ACTION: pwhalen to look into LVM console spam on first boot, The initial-setup does not appear to run (pwhalen, 20:37:21) * Restorecon runs on first boot- can we avoid this? (pwhalen, 20:38:20) * OMAP3 (beagle baord) needs a volunteer (bconoboy, 20:46:23) * Tegra X stability issue needs a volunteer (bconoboy, 20:46:34) * Clock is ticking: F19 Freeze is June 18 (bconoboy, 20:49:38) * 5) Flock Planning (pwhalen, 20:51:34) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/GCCBuiltInAtomicOperations (jonmasters, 20:51:47) * LINK: Fedora FLOCK in August http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flock (bconoboy, 20:53:58) * LINK: Official event site is http://flocktofedora.com/ (bconoboy, 20:54:16) * You have until *this* Friday to submit talks (bconoboy, 20:54:36) * pbrobinson to present ARM state of the union (bconoboy, 20:54:57) * j_dulaney to present on ARM virtualization (bconoboy, 20:55:07) * jonmasters to reprise his rh summit arm demo or similar (bconoboy, 20:56:22) * 6) Open Floor (pwhalen, 20:57:19) * LINK: David Marlin's guide to gcc atomics http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/GCCBuiltInAtomicOperations (bconoboy, 20:57:32) Meeting ended at 20:59:03 UTC. Action Items ------------ * pwhalen to look into LVM console spam on first boot, The initial-setup does not appear to run Action Items, by person ----------------------- * pwhalen * pwhalen to look into LVM console spam on first boot, The initial-setup does not appear to run * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * bconoboy (77) * pbrobinson (63) * pwhalen (50) * jonmasters (31) * j_dulaney (21) * masta (13) * zodbot (11) * dmarlin_away (8) * jcapik (4) * ahs3 (2) * kylem_rht (2) * oatley (1) * fossjon (1) * dmarlin (0) * msalter (0) * ctyler (0) * agreene (0) * ddd (0) * dgilmore (0)

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F19 Final Blocker Bug Review #1 Minutes
by Tim Flink 29 May '13

29 May '13

================================================= #fedora-blocker-review: f19final-blocker-review-1 ================================================= Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-05-29/f19final-… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-05-29/f19final-… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-05-29/f19final-… Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (tflink, 16:02:22) * Introduction (tflink, 16:10:24) * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and freeze exception bugs. (tflink, 16:10:58) * We'll be following the process outlined at: (tflink, 16:11:05) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (tflink, 16:11:05) * The bugs up for review today are available at: (tflink, 16:11:10) * LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (tflink, 16:11:10) * The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (tflink, 16:11:22) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Final_Release_Criteria (tflink, 16:11:22) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Beta_Release_Criteria (tflink, 16:11:25) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Alpha_Release_Criteria (tflink, 16:11:28) * Up for review today, we have: (tflink, 16:11:31) * 17 Proposed Blockers (tflink, 16:11:32) * 0 Accepted Blockers (tflink, 16:11:32) * 8 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (tflink, 16:11:32) * 0 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (tflink, 16:11:34) * (958906) anaconda no longer writing out /etc/sysconfig/kernel (tflink, 16:13:56) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958906 (tflink, 16:13:59) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, MODIFIED (tflink, 16:14:02) * AGREED: 958906 - RejectedBlocker, AcceptedFreezeException - This isn't causing the symptoms stated in the bug and thus, does not qualify as a blocker for f19 final. However, it would be good to create the /etc/sysconfig/kernel file and a tested fix would be considered past freeze (tflink, 16:27:05) * (872423) Add Interlingua to the list of available languages (tflink, 16:27:33) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=872423 (tflink, 16:27:35) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, MODIFIED (tflink, 16:27:38) * AGREED: 872423 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F19 final release criterion: "All critical path actions on release-blocking desktop environments should correctly display all sufficiently complete translations available for use" (tflink, 16:32:02) * (966761) storage configuration failed: Not enough free space on disks for automatic partitioning (tflink, 16:32:16) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=966761 (tflink, 16:32:18) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 16:32:21) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=955664#c25 (tflink, 16:35:26) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=967780 (ignatenkobrain, 16:41:09) * AGREED: - 966761 - it isn't 100% clear what is causing the problem here and the bug may have gone away. will revisit when more information is available (tflink, 16:42:46) * (955664) No multipath disks selected (tflink, 16:43:08) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=955664 (tflink, 16:43:08) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, MODIFIED (tflink, 16:43:08) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=967682 (adamw, 16:48:09) * AGREED: 955664 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedFreezeException - While the part about disks not showing up in the multipath tab is annoyance, it doesn't prevent install to multipath storage and is thus, not a release blocking bug for f19. A tested fix would be considered after freeze. (tflink, 16:56:25) * (967531) Kickstart installation can't use default repositories (tflink, 16:56:44) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=967531 (tflink, 16:56:47) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 16:56:50) * AGREED: 967531 - AcceptedFreezeException - While this is inconvenient for some kickstart users, it isn't catastrophic. A tested fix would be considered after freeze. (tflink, 17:06:30) * (965865) ValueError: ('invalid size specification', '-880.000000 MB') (tflink, 17:06:34) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=965865 (tflink, 17:06:37) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 17:06:39) * AGREED: 965865 - There is not enough information in the bug to be clear on what is causing the issue, will revisit when there is more available information (tflink, 17:27:11) * (964586) Anaconda does not isntall ntfs tools to allow OS-Prober to find windows partition and therefore creates no grub.cfg entry (tflink, 17:27:15) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=964586 (tflink, 17:27:18) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 17:27:21) * AGREED: 964586 - AcceptedBlocker - This bug violates the following F19 final release criterion: "The installer must be able to install into free space alongside an existing clean single-partition Windows installation and either install a bootloader which can boot into the Windows installation, or leave the Windows bootloader untouched and working" (tflink, 17:51:12) * (959677) IndexError: list index out of range (tflink, 17:51:22) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=959677 (tflink, 17:51:22) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:51:22) * AGREED: 959677 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F19 beta release criterion when no disks are selected during install from usb media: "When using the custom partitioning flow, the installer must be able to ... reject or disallow invalid disk and volume configurations without crashing." (tflink, 17:55:50) * (967527) /root/anaconda-ks.cfg crashes anaconda (tflink, 17:56:01) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=967527 (tflink, 17:56:01) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 17:56:01) * AGREED: 967527 - AcceptedFreezeException - Crashers in ks are good to fix but we still need more information before making a decision on blocker status. Will revisit when there is more information on whether the errors persist with empty disks (tflink, 18:04:08) * (951951) iscsi.service should not run on systems without iSCSI (tflink, 18:04:12) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=951951 (tflink, 18:04:15) * Proposed Blocker, iscsi, MODIFIED (tflink, 18:04:18) * AGREED: 951951 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't violate any of the F19 final release criteria and is thus rejected as a release blocking bug for F19 final (tflink, 18:14:30) * (903136) Screen brightness does not change using Hardware keys since kernel upgrade to 3.7 (Intel graphics) (tflink, 18:14:43) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=903136 (tflink, 18:14:48) * Proposed Blocker, kernel, NEW (tflink, 18:14:49) * AGREED: 903136 - RejectedBlocker - While unfortunate for users of affected laptops, this doesn't violate any F19 release criteria and could be fixed with a post-release update in most situations. Thus, rejected as a blocker for F19 final (tflink, 18:20:38) * (963698) UnicodeEncodeError in pkcon install-local (tflink, 18:20:54) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=963698 (tflink, 18:20:54) * Proposed Blocker, PackageKit, ASSIGNED (tflink, 18:20:54) * AGREED: 963698 - We'd like to see re-testing with the most recent PK before deciding on blocker status, will revisit when that information is available (tflink, 18:29:46) * (965213) poor handling of user ignoring one disk of an existing md array via ignoredisk (tflink, 18:30:04) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=965213 (tflink, 18:30:07) * Proposed Blocker, python-blivet, ASSIGNED (tflink, 18:30:10) * AGREED: 965213 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedFreezeException - While unfortunate, this bug is somewhat self-inflicted and somewhat of a corner case. Thus, it does not violate any F19 release criteria and is not a release blocking bug for F19. However, it seems like it could be common enough to justify taking a tested fix after freeze. (tflink, 18:44:07) * (966795) DeviceCreateError: ('lvcreate failed for fedora_sharpie00/swap: running lvm lvcreate -L 6160m -n swap --config devices { filter=["r|/loop3$|","r|/loop4$|","r|/loop5$|","r|/loop6$|","r|/loop7$|"] } fedora_sharpie00 failed', 'fedora_sharpie00-swap') (tflink, 18:44:33) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=966795 (tflink, 18:44:37) * Proposed Blocker, python-blivet, ASSIGNED (tflink, 18:44:39) * AGREED: 966795 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F19 final release criterion: "The installer must be able to create and install to any workable partition layout using any file system offered in a default installer configuration, LVM, software, hardware or BIOS RAID, or combination of the above" (tflink, 18:50:35) * (892178) rngd.service should behave more elegantly in the case where no hardware RNG is present (tflink, 18:50:47) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=892178 (tflink, 18:50:50) * Proposed Blocker, rng-tools, NEW (tflink, 18:50:52) * AGREED: 892178 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedFreezeException - While this doesn't directly violate any F19 release criteria (system operation isn't dramatically affected), it would be preferred if the rngd service started properly or not at all instead of failing. A tested fix would be considered past freeze (tflink, 18:59:00) * (928741) Totem crashes when I try to play ogv (ogg) (tflink, 18:59:10) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=928741 (tflink, 18:59:10) * Proposed Blocker, totem, NEW (tflink, 18:59:10) * 928741 appears to have been fixed and will be closed (tflink, 19:03:51) * (679486) Unable to start graphical installer on RC1 KDE live image (tflink, 19:04:16) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=679486 (tflink, 19:04:20) * Proposed Blocker, xorg-x11-xauth, ASSIGNED (tflink, 19:04:22) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=679486#c65 (adamw, 19:11:03) * AGREED: 679486 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedFreezeException - While this doesn't directly violate any F19 release criterion and thus is not a release blocking bug, it does seem to be more commonly hit now than in the past. A tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 19:15:21) * Open Floor (tflink, 19:16:04) Meeting ended at 19:26:22 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * tflink (267) * adamw (179) * kparal (176) * ignatenkobrain (58) * jreznik (28) * nirik (10) * dlehman (10) * zodbot (7) * jreznik_ (2) * satellit_e (2) * Southern_Gentlem (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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FAmNA Meeting (28 May 2013)
by Jon 28 May '13

28 May '13

====================== #fedora-meeting: FAmNA ====================== Meeting started by masta at 01:00:13 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-05-29/famna.2013-05-29… . Meeting summary --------------- * === FAmNA Roll Call === (masta, 01:00:13) * === Announcements === (masta, 01:02:43) * LINK: https://reservations.ihotelier.com/crs/g_reservation.cfm?groupID=1040693&ho… (dan408_, 01:04:14) * === Tickets === (masta, 01:05:15) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9 (masta, 01:05:15) * ** TXLF (masta, 01:07:18) * swag is on the way (masta, 01:07:56) * boxes should arrive to masta thursday (nb, 01:09:09) * TXLF looks to be 1000 people attending (masta, 01:09:11) * ACTION: nb to ship more media to hotel (nb, 01:09:18) * ACTION: nb to figure out if he is going to ship more shirts also (nb, 01:09:27) * ** SELF (masta, 01:10:42) * masta to ship the event box, and leftovers from TXLF to SELF (masta, 01:11:18) * AGREED: pay for tank of gas for j_dulaney subject to rbergeron and suehle figuring out how to pay for it (nb, 01:26:42) * == Open Floor === (masta, 01:28:47) * LINK: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2013-May/021164.html (dan408_, 01:31:59) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F19_release_events (dan408_, 01:32:32) Meeting ended at 01:39:25 UTC. Action Items ------------ * nb to ship more media to hotel * nb to figure out if he is going to ship more shirts also Action Items, by person ----------------------- * nb * nb to ship more media to hotel * nb to figure out if he is going to ship more shirts also * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * dan408_ (61) * masta (56) * nb (28) * j_dulaney (24) * inode0 (18) * zodbot (14) * suehle (11) * rbergeron (4) * dramsey (1) -Jon Disnard irc: masta fas: parasense

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2013-05-27 - Fedora QA Meeting - recap
by Adam Williamson 27 May '13

27 May '13

As always, minutes and IRC transcript available on the wiki at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20130527 Next meeting is scheduled for 2013-06-03 at 1500 UTC in #fedora-meeting. If you have topics you think we should bring up at the meeting, please add them to the Wiki page at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20130603 . Thanks! TOPIC: Previous meeting follow-up ======================================================================= * nirik to work on revising the 'desktop updates' test case to be more generic - not done yet * martix to co-ordinate with Thermostat test day runners to make sure they'll be ready or postpone the event - this was done, and the event went off fine * nirik to remove F20 from bugzilla for now - this was done, the few bugs opened were moved to Rawhide TOPIC: Fedora 19 Beta review/wrap-up ======================================================================= * 19 Beta RC4 will be released as Beta tomorrow * kparal will produce stats on contributors to testing * Common_F19_bugs[1] needs updating and we want to ensure the issue with PackageKit permissions and a note on the current state of initial-setup make the release notes TOPIC: Fedora 19 Final planning ======================================================================= * Final TC1 scheduled for 2013-06-04 * Final freeze scheduled for 2013-06-18 * Final release criteria need to be revised into the new format * We should complete the Final tests on Beta to identify any current blockers ahead of time TOPIC: Taskbot ======================================================================= * Taskbot[2] is tflink's new idea for automated testing * jreznik noted that this should be synchronized with the Fedora revamp proposal[3] and development resources may be available in relation to that * Some discussion of the best way to structure taskbot design and the work of writing it to be open to contribution and to achieve practical results as soon as possible * Code is at http://taskbot.tirfa.net for now TOPIC: Test Days ======================================================================= * Test_Day:2013-05-21_AnacondaNewUI_Followup[4] went ahead well and produced some useful results and some test cases we may want to adopt into the validation matrices * Test_Day:2013-05-23_Thermostat[5] went ahead and produced useful results, though mostly the development team was involved * Test_Day:2013-05-28_Virtualization[6] looked to be all ready * Test_Day:2013-05-30_Spice[7] page skeleton was present but test cases missing TOPIC: Open floor ======================================================================= * Flock[7] session submission deadline is 2013-05-31, so if you have ideas for sessions, please submit them Action items ======================================================================= * adamw and anyone else to work on updating Common_F19_bugs[1] * adamw to talk to rbergeron and make sure packagekit/policykit issue makes it into the beta release notes * adamw to complete 'new model' criteria revision by converting the final criteria * tflink to update the iscsi test case for newUI * tflink to schedule first blocker review meeting for this week * adamw to look at extracting some test cases from Test_Day:2013-05-21_AnacondaNewUI_Followup[4] for use as optional test cases (or even enforceable partitioning test cases) for the validation matrices * martix to ensure spice test day is ready on time * satellit_e to work on some test cases for SoaS 1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F19_bugs 2. http://tirfa.com/an-initial-idea-for-taskbot.html 3. https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-March/179337.html 4. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-05-21_AnacondaNewUI_Followup 5. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-05-23_Thermostat 6. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-05-28_Virtualization 7. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-05-30_Spice -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net

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2013-05-20 - Fedora QA Meeting - recap
by Adam Williamson 27 May '13

27 May '13

As always, minutes and IRC transcript available on the wiki at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20130520 Next meeting is scheduled for 2013-05-27 at 1500 UTC in #fedora-meeting. If you have topics you think we should bring up at the meeting, please add them to the Wiki page at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20130527 . Thanks! TOPIC: Previous meeting follow-up ======================================================================= * martix or adamw to write a Graphics Test Week recap email - unfortunately still not done, we will definitely get it done soon * tflink to write a list post announcing the blocker bug proposal webapp - this was not done yet either * adamw to look into Test_Day:2013-04-30_MariaDB[1] lack of participation and see if we should re-run it - this also had not been done yet * brunowolff to re-test bug #909473[2] and re-open if it's still bad - we were not sure whether Bruno had done this TOPIC: Fedora 19 Beta status ======================================================================= * Beta RC2 was in testing, some likely blocker bugs had been found but not too many * Go/No-Go was scheduled for Thursday 2013-05-23 * adamw noted that an 'update with yum' test case in the base matrix would be a good idea TOPIC: Test Days ======================================================================= * Test_Day:2013-05-21_AnacondaNewUI_Followup[3] looked ready or close to ready, and seemed to have some good test cases that could be adopted into the validation test plans * Test_Day:2013-05-23_Thermostat[4] shell was in place, but many test cases missing TOPIC: Open floor ======================================================================= * We now have a calendar in Fedocal[5] * Bugzilla was updated to 4.4. Among the notable changes: longer alias names, and needinfo bugs will now email the 'needinfo'd party weekly Action items ======================================================================= * nirik to work on revising the 'desktop updates' test case to be more generic * martix to co-ordinate with Thermostat test day runners to make sure they'll be ready or postpone the event * nirik to remove F20 from bugzilla for now 1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-04-30_MariaDB 2. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=909473 3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-05-21_AnacondaNewUI_Followup 4. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-05-23_Thermostat 5. https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/QA/ -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net

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Fedora Chinese Meeting Minutes (2013-05-24)
by Alick Zhao 24 May '13

24 May '13

Hi all, The IRC meeting minutes tonight are available at the link [1]. Thanks everyone for attending the meeting. In the meeting we talked about FUDCon APAC 2014 bid progress, and FPWiki Zh page updates. Please review the proposed ideas and actions. The next IRC meeting will be held on next Friday (2013-05-31). Please come and join the discussion if you can! [1]: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2013-05-24/fedora-zh.2013-05-24-… ================== #fedora-zh Meeting ================== Meeting started by zsun at 13:17:41 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2013-05-24/fedora-zh.2013-05-24-… . Meeting summary --------------- * 点名 (zsun, 13:18:25) * FUDCON APAC 2014 申办筹备 (zsun, 13:24:27) * LINK: http://sdrv.ms/18aMUTz (zsun, 13:25:47) * ACTION: zsun转达韦冠楠，继续询问地大会议中心的情况 (endle, 13:37:06) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon#Upcoming_FUDCons (zsun, 13:45:11) * IDEA: 关于场地我想可以找携程之类的公司，让他们帮忙找一下 (by xielingyun__ ) (zsun, 13:51:26) * ACTION: xielingyun__ 联系一下携程，询问场地信息 (alick, 13:53:29) * FPWiki Zh 页面的整理更新 (zsun, 13:57:20) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FZUGCommunicate (zsun, 13:59:22) * LINK: http://network.feedsky.com/fedora (zsun, 13:59:42) * ACTION: 删除 FZUGCommunicate 页面失效的planet连接和feedsky连接 (zsun, 14:03:35) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FZUGCommunicate#.E9.82.AE.E4.BB.B6.E5.88.97.… (endle, 14:06:25) * ACTION: endle完善一下对邮件列表的介绍 (endle, 14:08:46) Meeting ended at 14:15:10 UTC. Action Items ------------ * zsun转达韦冠楠，继续询问地大会议中心的情况 * xielingyun__ 联系一下携程，询问场地信息 * 删除 FZUGCommunicate 页面失效的planet连接和feedsky连接 * endle完善一下对邮件列表的介绍 Action Items, by person ----------------------- * endle * endle完善一下对邮件列表的介绍 * xielingyun__ * xielingyun__ 联系一下携程，询问场地信息 * zsun * zsun转达韦冠楠，继续询问地大会议中心的情况 * **UNASSIGNED** * 删除 FZUGCommunicate 页面失效的planet连接和feedsky连接 People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * zsun (71) * endle (41) * alick (38) * zodbot (11) * xielingyun__ (9) * BadGirl (6) * biergaizi (5) * amos_huang (3) * CyrusYzGTt (3) * chenchacha (1) * chz- (0) * hpt (0) * liweinan (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Summary/Minutes from today's Fedora Infrastructure meeting (2013-05-23)
by Kevin Fenzi 23 May '13

23 May '13

============================================ #fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2013-05-23) ============================================ Meeting started by nirik at 18:59:59 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-05-23/infrastructure.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * welcome y'all (nirik, 18:59:59) * New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks (nirik, 19:04:34) * Applications status / discussion (nirik, 19:08:56) * android app for underway. See relrod for details. (nirik, 19:14:43) * fedora-news work ongoing. (nirik, 19:14:51) * fedocal working toward 0.2.0 release (nirik, 19:15:02) * Sysadmin status / discussion (nirik, 19:20:00) * ansible migration making good headway (nirik, 19:20:32) * we have kernel qa boxes hopefully ready to hand over to kernel folks soon. (nirik, 19:22:05) * our new bladecenter should finish showing up at some point in the next few weeks. (nirik, 19:22:23) * Private Cloud status update / discussion (nirik, 19:28:37) * loaded some f19 beta RC's in for people to test with. (nirik, 19:28:58) * Upcoming tasks/items (nirik, 19:29:41) * LINK: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/ (nirik, 19:29:42) * 2013-05-14 to 2013-05-28 BETA infrastructure freeze (nirik, 19:29:53) * 2013-05-28 F19 beta release (nirik, 19:29:54) * 2013-05-31 end of 1st quarter (nirik, 19:29:54) * 2013-06-01 nag fi-apprentices (nirik, 19:29:54) * 2013-06-08 drop inactive apprentices (nirik, 19:29:54) * 2013-06-18 to 2013-07-02 FINAL infrastructure freeze. (nirik, 19:29:55) * 2013-07-01 nag fi-apprentices (nirik, 19:29:56) * 2013-07-02 F19 FINAL release (nirik, 19:29:58) * Open Floor (nirik, 19:32:29) * LINK: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memorial_Day (nirik, 19:34:43) Meeting ended at 19:36:39 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (85) * skvidal (21) * pingou (18) * threebean (17) * smooge (10) * ignatenkobrain (9) * relrod (7) * framew0rk (6) * tflink (5) * zodbot (4) * suehle_away (2) * jerzyr (2) * puiterwijk (2) * cyberworm54 (1) * bitlord (1) * abadger1999 (1) * tibbs|w (1) * dgilmore (1) * ricky (0) * mdomsch (0) * lmacken (0) * CodeBlock (0) -- 18:59:59 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2013-05-23) 18:59:59 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu May 23 18:59:59 2013 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:59:59 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 18:59:59 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure 18:59:59 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure' 18:59:59 <nirik> #topic welcome y'all 18:59:59 <nirik> #chair smooge skvidal CodeBlock ricky nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch threebean 19:00:00 <zodbot> Current chairs: CodeBlock abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik ricky skvidal smooge threebean 19:00:21 * puiterwijk is around 19:00:25 * abadger1999 here 19:00:30 * relrod is here 19:00:32 * pingou 19:00:42 <framew0rk> hello 19:00:45 * cyberworm54 is here 19:00:47 <ignatenkobrain> hellp 19:00:47 * bitlord still watching :-) 19:00:58 * ignatenkobrain watching 19:02:57 * nirik waits a min more for folks to wander in. 19:03:07 <dgilmore> hola 19:03:33 <smooge> I am here 19:03:38 * skvidal is here 19:03:42 * threebean threebean 19:03:44 <smooge> with skvidal we can begin 19:04:34 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks 19:04:43 <nirik> any new folks? or apprentices with questions or comments? 19:04:49 <smooge> Thrice the brinded cat hath mew'd. Thrice and once, the hedge-pig whin'd. Harpier cries:—'tis time! 'tis time! Round about the caldron go; 19:04:53 <framew0rk> i'm new! :) 19:05:00 <framew0rk> first meeting 19:05:13 <pingou> smooge: saywat? 19:05:23 <pingou> welcome framew0rk 19:05:30 <ignatenkobrain> i'm new. first meeting in here. but not new in #fedora-blocker-review 19:05:38 <nirik> welcome framew0rk. Are you interested in sysadmin or application development type things? 19:05:41 <pingou> welcome to ignatenkobrain 19:05:46 <framew0rk> thanks pingou and nirik 19:05:53 <ignatenkobrain> pingou: thanks 19:05:55 * skvidal likes smooge's intro line there 19:06:09 <nirik> Note that there is a beta readyness meeting going on in #fedora-meeting-1 for any folks looking for that. 19:06:11 <framew0rk> nirik: i prefer sysadmin stuff but i have developed with php before. trying to learn python. 19:06:14 <nirik> welcome ignatenkobrain. 19:06:22 <ignatenkobrain> nirik: thx 19:07:07 <nirik> framew0rk: cool. See me after the meeting in #fedora-admin and I can get you into our apprentice group if you like. 19:07:19 <nirik> ignatenkobrain: you interested in sysadmin or application development type things? 19:07:30 <framew0rk> nirik: great, will do. thanks! 19:07:53 <ignatenkobrain> nirik: sysadmin.I'm bad developer =) 19:08:02 * suehle_away is here 19:08:07 <jerzyr> is here 19:08:10 * suehle_away is in the wrong place 19:08:18 <nirik> ignatenkobrain: :) cool. Can set you up in apprentice as well after the meeting if you're interested. 19:08:20 <nirik> welcome again. 19:08:32 <nirik> suehle: you're always welcome in infra meetings too! :) 19:08:56 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion 19:09:05 <nirik> any application news from this week or upcoming? 19:09:58 * relrod has something but isn't sure if it's better for here or open floor 19:10:00 <nirik> There was some talk/meeting on badges. ;) 19:10:05 <pingou> threebean started to patch fedora-news 19:10:15 <nirik> as a side note, I see that moodle now has badges. 19:10:22 <pingou> I'm working toward fedocal 0.2.0 19:10:24 * threebean goes to learn what moodle is 19:10:36 <nirik> it's a on-line class framework thing. 19:10:41 <nirik> you make classes and people take them 19:10:44 <relrod> After talking with spot and some other people, I have started working on an Android app for Fedora-ish stuff. 19:10:51 <threebean> ah, cool. 19:10:52 <pingou> relrod: cool :) 19:10:55 <nirik> relrod: awesome. :) 19:10:59 <ignatenkobrain> relrod: good 19:11:09 <relrod> It'll interact with APIs for things like Fedora Packages, it'll be able to receive fedmsg notifications, etc. 19:11:11 <pingou> threebean: http://school.demo.moodle.net/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=320 19:11:16 <skvidal> relrod: neat 19:11:21 <nirik> how would an android app overlap with the fedora-news thing? 19:12:12 <relrod> nirik: pingou said the fedora-news app was mostly for firefox os, so I've been treating it as a separate thing so far 19:12:28 <nirik> ok, so this would be similar, but a native app? 19:12:31 <pingou> relrod: it does work on android 19:12:51 <nirik> yeah, it works here in firefox on android. (I've not tried it in "browser") 19:12:57 <relrod> nirik: Yeah, this will be a native app. It'll let you add your FAS account using the android account provider API, for example. 19:13:00 <skvidal> I tried it in chrome 19:13:03 <skvidal> it works just fine 19:13:08 <skvidal> nirik: you still use 'browser'? 19:13:12 <threebean> well, from what I've heard of the android app, there's a big difference of scope here. 19:13:33 <nirik> skvidal: no, I use firefox. ;) thats why I haven't tried it in 'browser' (which, really, wtf is it really?) 19:13:43 <nirik> relrod: cool. or openid? 19:13:44 <threebean> Since relrod can hook fas into the android api, we can do a lot more. fedora-news is just one way: news -> the user. 19:14:07 <nirik> ah yeah... so it's consumer vs consumer/producer. 19:14:14 <pingou> maybe it's also duable for fedora-news, no idea there :/ 19:14:15 <jerzyr> threebean: moodle is for Australian children 19:14:41 <pingou> and I won't be able to look into it before flock basically 19:14:43 <nirik> #info android app for underway. See relrod for details. 19:14:51 <nirik> #info fedora-news work ongoing. 19:15:02 <nirik> #info fedocal working toward 0.2.0 release 19:15:03 <relrod> Anyway, I just wanted to mention it. I'm still just getting started on it. I'll be doing a Flock hackfest on it -- if it gets accepted 19:15:15 * threebean nods 19:15:19 <threebean> relrod: cool :) 19:15:53 <threebean> oh, one more thing -> I got the mailman3 fedmsg plugin working for the most part. I'm just getting into packaging it now. 19:15:55 <nirik> how's the web end of badges? we need some instances at some point (I was going to do it after freeze) 19:15:58 <skvidal> relrod: nie 19:16:04 <threebean> I'm excited, because I know skvidal will love it. 19:16:09 <threebean> because skvidal loves mailing lists. 19:16:14 <tflink> speaking as someone who does not have a working android device and has no plans to change that, please don't add any more smartphone requirements for infra/devel than we already have 19:16:23 <tflink> but that may be off topic 19:16:37 <skvidal> tflink: no requirements - this is a news consuming app aiui 19:16:40 <nirik> tflink: it's no requirement... ;) it's just a way for people who have them to interact. 19:16:56 <skvidal> tflink: also I don't think we have any smartphone device requirements 19:17:02 <skvidal> tflink: yubikeys work fine for 2fa 19:17:11 <nirik> ie, someday perhaps you could check on a build, make a new update from your phone, but you could also do it from command line or web interface. 19:17:28 <tflink> skvidal: they do? 19:17:33 <tflink> it didn't work for me on stg 19:17:34 <skvidal> tflink: yep 19:17:36 <tflink> but I digress 19:18:15 <nirik> anyhow, there's no plans to make anything smartphone specific. ;) 19:18:31 <threebean> nirik: oh, on your badges question.. we'll be making more progress on that next week. we could ship it to staging now, but its ugly. 19:18:41 <nirik> no worries. 19:19:18 <nirik> any other applications news? 19:19:55 <skvidal> threebean: I like mailing lists. I just don't like email :) 19:20:00 <nirik> #topic Sysadmin status / discussion 19:20:00 <threebean> ;) 19:20:06 <nirik> so, on the sysadmin side... 19:20:16 <nirik> skvidal has been rocking on the ansible migration. 19:20:32 <nirik> #info ansible migration making good headway 19:20:39 <skvidal> I have global ported and I dumped a bunch of stuff that was nonsense 19:20:44 <skvidal> or just so old we cannot explain why it exists 19:21:04 <threebean> that's great! 19:21:06 <nirik> after freeze we might look at migrating some more machines over. 19:21:18 <pingou> cool 19:21:22 <skvidal> threebean: it's a start - it's not GREAT yet 19:21:47 <threebean> heh, ok. :) 19:22:05 <nirik> #info we have kernel qa boxes hopefully ready to hand over to kernel folks soon. 19:22:23 <nirik> #info our new bladecenter should finish showing up at some point in the next few weeks. 19:23:04 <skvidal> speaking of 19:23:06 <skvidal> that bladecenter 19:23:10 <skvidal> what is it we're installing on it? 19:23:33 <nirik> it's going to be build boxen... 19:23:40 <nirik> and bvirt's possibly. 19:23:53 <skvidal> nirik: which boxes are going away? 19:24:31 <nirik> eventually the current old bladecenter... but not anytime super soon 19:24:46 <nirik> which has buildvm's and 2 bvhosts on it? 19:25:01 <skvidal> yah 19:25:02 <nirik> (oh, and the 2 ppc's which will go away in favor of a new ppc box we have) 19:25:06 <smooge> yay. I plan to be the guinea pig for following basic steps and wriitng docs 19:25:17 * ignatenkobrain leaving you. nirik, I will write to you next. 19:25:33 <nirik> ignatenkobrain: have fun. see me in #fedora-admin later. 19:25:42 <ignatenkobrain> nirik: ok. 19:26:01 <nirik> the new bladecenter only has 4 blades, but they have a lot more mem than the existing ones and more cpus, etc... 19:26:25 <nirik> anyhow, it's not fully shipped yet, so we can figure out how we want to parcel it when it's racked. 19:26:45 <nirik> any other sysadmin type news? 19:26:59 <smooge> kernel boxes built. skvidal did ansible on them 19:27:10 <smooge> I learned that f19 needs newgrp to sudo :) 19:27:13 <nirik> cool. they are both done and have hw all set now? 19:27:22 <smooge> they are all done. 19:27:32 <smooge> a kickstart has been made to rebuild them when needed 19:27:37 <smooge> they are on the testing KVM 19:27:51 <smooge> we shoould have some power APC's on the KVM soon also 19:27:54 <nirik> excellent. ;) you can close out that ticket on that then. 19:28:37 <nirik> #topic Private Cloud status update / discussion 19:28:43 <nirik> not much on cloud this week... 19:28:58 <nirik> #info loaded some f19 beta RC's in for people to test with. 19:29:41 <nirik> #topic Upcoming tasks/items 19:29:42 <nirik> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/ 19:29:48 <nirik> (yes, I still need to populate it more) 19:29:53 <nirik> #info 2013-05-14 to 2013-05-28 BETA infrastructure freeze 19:29:54 <nirik> #info 2013-05-28 F19 beta release 19:29:54 <nirik> #info 2013-05-31 end of 1st quarter 19:29:54 <nirik> #info 2013-06-01 nag fi-apprentices 19:29:54 <nirik> #info 2013-06-08 drop inactive apprentices 19:29:55 <nirik> #info 2013-06-18 to 2013-07-02 FINAL infrastructure freeze. 19:29:56 <nirik> #info 2013-07-01 nag fi-apprentices 19:29:58 <nirik> #info 2013-07-02 F19 FINAL release 19:30:11 <nirik> anything folks want to schedule or note? 19:30:26 <pingou> 2013-08-09:12 flock 19:30:36 <nirik> yeah, just cut it off at f19 19:31:02 <pingou> dead line for talks, workshop, hackfest is the end of the month 19:31:07 <threebean> 2013-05-28 oddshocks starts his RH internship 19:31:12 <nirik> yeah, might be good to add in. ;) 19:31:14 <nirik> cool. 19:31:26 <pingou> D-5 19:31:47 <nirik> threebean: oddshocks is going to work on badges? or ? 19:32:05 <threebean> nirik: yes, correct. 19:32:20 <nirik> excellent. 19:32:29 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 19:32:39 <nirik> any items folks want to discuss that was not on the adgenda? 19:33:46 <threebean> Oh -- I'm off on PTO tomorrow. So, if you need me for something.. let's talk about it after the meeting? 19:33:48 <nirik> Beta is a go, so thats tuesday. ;) We will actually unfreeze on time this time. 19:33:56 <nirik> also... 19:34:04 <nirik> monday is a holiday (at RH at least) 19:34:25 <pingou> May 27? Which one is it? 19:34:35 <tibbs|w> US Memorial day. 19:34:35 <skvidal> memorial day 19:34:41 <pingou> oh ok 19:34:43 <nirik> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memorial_Day 19:34:53 <pingou> thanks nirik, you read my mind :) 19:34:54 <puiterwijk> nirik: not for complete RH, only RH US 19:35:00 <nirik> puiterwijk: sorry, yeah, true. 19:35:16 <nirik> anyhow, will close out the meeting in a minute if nothing else. 19:36:36 <nirik> thanks for coming everyone! 19:36:39 <nirik> #endmeeting

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