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EMEA Ambassadors meeting minutes 2013-07-31
by Jiri Eischmann 31 Jul '13

31 Jul '13

Hi, we had another regular meeting of EMEA ambassadors. 19 of them showed up and the meeting lasted for 1 hour and 18 minutes. If you'd like to know more, read the minutes: Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-07-31/emea_ambassadors… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-07-31/emea_ambassadors… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-07-31/emea_ambassadors… The next meeting will be on Aug 14th. Meet you in two weeks! Jiri

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Fedora ARM Weekly Status Meeting Minutes 2013-07-31
by Paul Whalen 31 Jul '13

31 Jul '13

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FAmNA Meeting (30 Jul 2013)
by Dan Mashal 30 Jul '13

30 Jul '13

====================== #fedora-meeting: FAmNA ====================== Meeting started by dan408_ at 00:29:43 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-07-31/famna.2013-07-31… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (dan408_, 00:30:22) * announcements (dan408_, 00:35:47) * proper place to open a ticket is on famnarequests not on famna (nb, 00:37:47) * ACTION: nb to attempt to delete famna ticket 63 (nb, 00:40:27) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9 (dan408_, 00:42:11) * Tickets (dan408_, 00:42:23) * FAmNA ticket # 63 has been removed from trac due to having personal information in it (nb, 00:51:11) * LINK: http://www.kb6nu.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/2010_Tech_Study_Guide.pdf (nb, 00:56:11) * LINK: http://kb6nu.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/2011-No-Nonsense-General-Class-… (nb, 00:56:21) * if interested in your first HAM radio guide email ham-radio-exams@fedoraproject and see links provided by nb! (dan408_, 00:56:34) * LINK: http://www.kb6nu.com/products-page/study-guides-2/no-nonsense-extra-class-l… (this one is not free) (nb, 00:56:45) * Fedora Ambassadors - State of the Union Fri Aug 9 at 12PM (dan408_, 01:00:28) * 3 talks on Sunday from 10AM-12PM (dan408_, 01:00:50) * Open Floor (dan408_, 01:03:27) Meeting ended at 01:15:17 UTC. Action Items ------------ * nb to attempt to delete famna ticket 63 Action Items, by person ----------------------- * nb * nb to attempt to delete famna ticket 63 * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * dan408_ (103) * nb (39) * award3535 (30) * kk4ewt (17) * zodbot (8) * dramsey (1) * suehle (0) * rbergeron (0) * inode0 (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4

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Fedora Chinese Meeting Minutes (2013-07-26)
by Alick Zhao 26 Jul '13

26 Jul '13

Hi all, The IRC meeting minutes tonight are available at the link [1]. Thanks everyone for attending the meeting. In the meeting we talked about Fedora 19 Release Party Beijing, FUDCon APAC 2014 bid progress, and so on. Please review the proposed ideas and actions. The next IRC meeting will be held on next Friday (2013-08-02). Please come and join the discussion if you can! [1]: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2013-07-26/fedora-zh.2013-07-26-… ================== #fedora-zh Meeting ================== Meeting started by alick at 13:01:49 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2013-07-26/fedora-zh.2013-07-26-… . Meeting summary --------------- * 点名 (alick, 13:02:22) * FUDCon (alick, 13:08:55) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Beijing_2014#Visa_Application (alick, 13:13:37) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Beijing_2011#Visa_Application (tiansworld, 13:14:39) * F19 Release Party (alick, 13:23:43) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party_F19_Beijing#Preregistration (alick, 13:32:12) Meeting ended at 14:02:53 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * alick (50) * zsun (14) * tonghuix (12) * tiansworld (10) * endle_ (10) * zodbot (5) * BadGirl (5) * endle (3) * value (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Summary/Minutes from today's Fedora Infrastructure meeting (2013-07-25)
by Kevin Fenzi 25 Jul '13

25 Jul '13

============================================ #fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2013-07-25) ============================================ Meeting started by nirik at 19:00:09 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-07-25/infrastructure.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * welcome y'all (nirik, 19:00:09) * New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks (nirik, 19:03:46) * Applications status / discussion (nirik, 19:08:40) * LINK: https://apps.stg.fedoraproject.org/badges/ (lmacken, 19:09:13) * badges moving forward fine, on track to deploy before flock (nirik, 19:12:27) * mirrormanager updated this week, still more work to do on it. (nirik, 19:12:39) * Sysadmin status / discussion (nirik, 19:14:19) * kevin on site in phx2 next mon/tue/wed. (nirik, 19:17:24) * outage next tuesday at 21UTC (nirik, 19:17:31) * Upcoming Tasks/Items (nirik, 19:27:05) * LINK: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/ (nirik, 19:27:05) * Open Floor (nirik, 19:27:58) Meeting ended at 19:31:15 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (74) * pingou (15) * smooge (14) * oddshocks (12) * tdk3fe (11) * rhaen (7) * abadger1999 (6) * zodbot (4) * samkottler (2) * lmacken (2) * dgilmore (2) * ianweller (1) * mitzie_ (1) * tflink (1) * cyberworm541 (1) * threebean (0) * ricky (0) * mdomsch (0) * CodeBlock (0) -- 19:00:09 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2013-07-25) 19:00:09 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Jul 25 19:00:09 2013 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:00:09 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 19:00:09 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure 19:00:09 <nirik> #topic welcome y'all 19:00:09 <nirik> #chair smooge CodeBlock ricky nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch threebean 19:00:09 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure' 19:00:09 <zodbot> Current chairs: CodeBlock abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik ricky smooge threebean 19:01:10 <nirik> anyone around for an infra meeting? :) 19:01:15 * rhaen 19:01:17 * pingou 19:01:31 * oddshocks 19:01:34 <tdk3fe> yup 19:01:51 * nirik will wait another min or two for folks to wander in 19:02:26 <dgilmore> hey 19:02:34 * ianweller is here but is actively doing something else 19:03:06 <smooge> here'' 19:03:38 <nirik> ok, lets go ahead and get started then I guess... 19:03:46 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks 19:03:52 * tflink is lurking 19:03:53 * cyberworm541 is here!!!! 19:03:58 <nirik> any new folks like to introduce themselves? or apprentices with questions or issues? 19:04:14 * rhaen has question/remark to a ticket. 19:04:24 <nirik> rhaen: fire away. 19:04:47 <rhaen> I am working on the nagios ticket, however I am missing some information 19:04:54 <rhaen> what's the best place/person to ask? 19:05:24 <rhaen> like email alerting. 19:05:25 <nirik> rhaen: best is likely #fedora-admin or #fedora-noc... just ask and if folks can answer they will chime in. ;) 19:05:36 <rhaen> k. - Question finished. 19:05:37 <nirik> I'd be happy to work with you on it after the meeting. ;) 19:05:45 <rhaen> cool! 19:05:46 <tdk3fe> I guess my only question is how to move from the apprentice group to actually doing something :) 19:05:52 * samkottler is here 19:06:05 <nirik> tdk3fe: thats often the hard step for sure. ;( 19:06:06 <tdk3fe> I commented on a ticket under the 'easyfix' category but haven't gotten a response 19:06:14 <nirik> tdk3fe: which ticket? 19:06:20 <tdk3fe> 3094 19:06:46 <nirik> ah yeah, I asked abadger1999 to look at replying to you this morning... he's just not had a chance yet. 19:06:52 <tdk3fe> Gotcha 19:06:53 <nirik> I can't recall the details of what we needed there. 19:07:04 <abadger1999> hola 19:07:08 <nirik> but hopefully he can help you out. or I can try and get back up to speed on it. 19:07:13 <nirik> hey abadger1999 19:07:17 <tdk3fe> Well I understand the concern about just letting new people on the system to "contribute" so i'll continue to hang around and bug folks ;) 19:07:45 <nirik> tdk3fe: please do. It's often a good way to get involved to watch our irc channels and chime in with questions or offer to help... 19:08:16 <tdk3fe> nirik: that was my only question today so if somebody else wants to go ahead feel free 19:08:33 <nirik> ok, no worries. Hopefully we can get you info before too long. ;) 19:08:40 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion 19:08:49 <nirik> any application news this week or upcoming? 19:09:06 <lmacken> new badge art has been deployed! 19:09:13 <lmacken> https://apps.stg.fedoraproject.org/badges/ 19:09:21 <nirik> cool! 19:09:23 <pingou> oh yeah, mizmo did some awesome work ! 19:09:34 <oddshocks> Yep! And we are aware that they are stretcheed on the badge info view 19:09:34 <abadger1999> tdk3fe: I'll see if that has actually been completed in pkgdb's repo or not and post a pointer to the current code. 19:09:35 <samkottler> that looks great 19:09:50 <nirik> yeah, very nice! 19:10:02 <oddshocks> I will be adding new, larger, 256px PNGs soon... we are moving into more of the testing / docs / polishing area 19:10:06 <oddshocks> before Flock 19:10:26 <nirik> cool. We still on target to deploy before flock hopefully? 19:10:29 <pingou> sounds very nice oddshocks 19:10:29 <oddshocks> Glad to know you guys like it :) Mizmo and Jenn kicked butt 19:10:30 <tdk3fe> abadger1999: thank you. It's difficult to know what still needs to be done on Trac since a lot of tickets were posted many months ago but haven't had any activity 19:10:46 <oddshocks> nirik: For sure. Production before flock is doable and remains our goal 19:10:49 <tdk3fe> abadger1999: so if that ticket can be closed if you could refer me to some that are still pending that would be great 19:11:01 <oddshocks> nirik: threebean and I are very comfortable with where we're at 19:11:31 <nirik> tdk3fe: yeah, it's hard sometimes... if theres an easyfix thing, we could just do it and it's done, or we can file it for someone, but then it sits there likely for a while... 19:11:43 <nirik> oddshocks: excellent. Looking forward to it being live. 19:11:49 <oddshocks> :) 19:12:08 <nirik> any other applications news? 19:12:27 <nirik> #info badges moving forward fine, on track to deploy before flock 19:12:39 <nirik> #info mirrormanager updated this week, still more work to do on it. 19:13:26 * pingou hasn't done much dev lately 19:13:37 <nirik> yeah, things seem quiet on a number of apps... 19:13:40 <pingou> still need to review abadger1999 's p-r 19:14:16 <nirik> ok, moving along then... 19:14:19 <nirik> #topic Sysadmin status / discussion 19:14:23 <abadger1999> new python-fedora is in fedora18+ and el6 testing that adds flask_fas_openid 19:14:27 <abadger1999> it's a backport. 19:14:31 <nirik> fair bit of activity on the sysadmin side. 19:14:34 <nirik> abadger1999: cool. ;) 19:14:38 <smooge> abadger1999, cool 19:14:40 <abadger1999> since the p-r to python-fedora has been holding up a new release. 19:14:41 <oddshocks> Nice 19:14:54 <nirik> I will be out on site at our main datacenter next week mon, tue, wed. 19:15:38 <nirik> this means I will likely not be as available on irc/email, so if folks could try and look for any questions people have in our channels and answer them in my absense that would be great. 19:16:00 <nirik> we also have an outage tuesday to add mem/disks to some virthosts. 19:16:05 * dgilmore will try 19:16:26 <pingou> I sent a patch of an ansible playbook to remove users from denyhosts, but I need to test it before merging 19:16:43 <nirik> pingou: great! 19:17:10 <nirik> here's my tenative schedule of things: http://paste.fedoraproject.org/27928/77978913/ if anyone has other items for me to do while there, please let me know. 19:17:17 <pingou> I should also integrate doc update in the patch 19:17:24 <nirik> #info kevin on site in phx2 next mon/tue/wed. 19:17:31 <nirik> #info outage next tuesday at 21UTC 19:17:46 <tdk3fe> nirik: where's the datacenter at? 19:17:50 <pingou> nirik: looks busy 19:18:09 <nirik> abadger1999 has also been working on our rbac-playbook wrapper. Still needs more work, but hopefully will be available before too long. 19:18:16 <nirik> tdk3fe: phoenix, az 19:18:21 <nirik> pingou: yeah, always is. ;( 19:18:23 <tdk3fe> nirik: nice 19:18:39 <pingou> rbac? 19:18:43 <nirik> pingou: and things take 5 times the amount of time you would expect them to in the datacenter for some reason. 19:19:12 <nirik> role based access control. basically a way for non sysadmin-main people to run ansible-playbooks on hosts that they have permissions to. 19:19:23 <pingou> ok 19:19:28 <pingou> nice :) 19:20:09 <nirik> ok, any other sysadmin side items? 19:20:27 <nirik> oh, I had one more. 19:20:30 <smooge> am i still on? 19:20:36 <nirik> I think so 19:20:42 <mitzie_> yes 19:20:44 <smooge> will wait for your item 19:20:55 <nirik> we have a ticket patrick filed a while back: ticket #3864 Publish zodbot's IRC logs? 19:21:11 <nirik> zodbot makes logs, someone asked us for them at one point. 19:21:16 <nirik> I am in favor of disabling them and not providing them to anyone 19:21:36 <pingou> +1 19:21:47 <nirik> does anyone have strong arguments against that idea? 19:22:01 <oddshocks> Just curiousity 19:22:05 <smooge> what logs outside of meeting logs does it keep? sorry I thought that was for meeting logs to be better searchable 19:22:35 <nirik> it has a channellogger plugin, I have no idea why it was enabled. 19:22:36 <nirik> so it keeps logs on every channel it's in all the time. 19:23:00 <pingou> nirik: is it needed for .seen or .last? 19:23:06 <abadger1999> nirik: +1 19:23:07 <nirik> I don't think so... 19:23:24 <oddshocks> Ohhh. I'm not sure why we wouldn't provide meeting logs if we had them, but I could understand why we don't keep and provide 24/7 logs from all channels 19:23:42 <nirik> right. meeting logs are fine, we do publish them. 19:23:47 <oddshocks> Right on :) 19:24:00 <nirik> but there's lots of reasons general logs are bad. 19:24:26 <nirik> ok, if no objections I will go nuke that stuff. 19:24:38 <nirik> smooge: did you have other sysadmin items? 19:24:40 <smooge> nope nuke it and turn it off 19:25:06 <smooge> Basically this week has been getting orders done and tracking sysadmin logs 19:25:27 <smooge> we have some problem with epylog and people logins not matching. I think it is a weedeater 19:25:34 <smooge> but not sure 19:25:44 <nirik> any further news on blade server network, memory orders, or new bvirthost orders? :) 19:26:17 <smooge> memory 18 sticks should be in PHX2. 12 sticks not known. Dell boxes got a PO this morning right before meeting. Blade center no idea 19:26:36 <nirik> ok. 19:26:41 <smooge> so the Dell boxes might get there when you are there 19:26:52 <nirik> yeah, we can see I guess. 19:26:54 <smooge> I am checking with mgalgoci on the network items 19:27:02 <nirik> thanks 19:27:05 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items 19:27:05 <nirik> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/ 19:27:13 <nirik> any upcoming items folks would like to note or schedule? 19:27:58 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 19:28:05 <smooge> no items other than your trip 19:28:12 <nirik> anyone have anything for open floor? things to note? suggestions? comments? 19:28:13 <pingou> just the deadline of August 1st for the presentation at flock 19:28:18 * pingou needs to start his 19:28:29 * nirik needs to write his up soon too. 19:28:54 <smooge> I have two graphics and a lot of notes 19:29:46 <nirik> ok, if nothing else, will close out the meeting in a minute or two 19:31:11 <nirik> ok, thanks for coming everyone! 19:31:15 <nirik> #endmeeting

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Summary/Minutes from today's irc support sig meeting (2013-07-25)
by Kevin Fenzi 25 Jul '13

25 Jul '13

============================================= #fedora-meeting: IRC Support SIG (2013-07-25) ============================================= Meeting started by nirik at 18:00:04 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-07-25/irc-support-sig.… . Meeting summary --------------- * init process (nirik, 18:00:05) * Week in review (nirik, 18:03:05) * ticket #154 Quieted for non-abrasive comment (nirik, 18:08:15) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/154 (nirik, 18:09:04) * Change default quiet message (nirik, 18:13:41) * Open Floor (nirik, 18:17:47) Meeting ended at 18:24:50 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (49) * fenrus02 (12) * EvilBob (11) * DiscordianUK (9) * Sonar_Gal (7) * underscores (7) * Southern_Gentlem (7) * N3LRX (6) * zodbot (3) -- 18:00:04 <nirik> #startmeeting IRC Support SIG (2013-07-25) 18:00:04 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Jul 25 18:00:04 2013 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:00:04 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 18:00:05 <nirik> #meetingname irc-support-sig 18:00:05 <nirik> #topic init process 18:00:05 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'irc-support-sig' 18:00:16 <nirik> who all is around for an irc support sig meeting? 18:00:24 * DiscordianUK is 18:00:58 * fenrus02 waves from the back row 18:01:04 * N3LRX 18:02:14 * Southern_Gentlem 18:02:32 * Sonar_Gal 18:02:57 <nirik> ok, lets go ahead and start in 18:03:05 <nirik> #topic Week in review 18:03:24 <nirik> anyone have items from the previous week(s)? trends to note or common problems, etc? 18:04:14 <DiscordianUK> Just people slow to migrate from EOL releases 18:04:18 <nirik> Only sort of common thing I've seen recently is there was a issue with nvidia binary only non free packages from rpmfusion that was causing some upgrade problems for people for a while. 18:04:28 <underscores> hm #fedora-kde received some evil words from a guy that wasn't registrated on freenode and couldn't make his scaner work properly 18:04:29 <nirik> I think it's fixed now, but I don't use them, so not sure. 18:04:45 <nirik> underscores: sorry to hear it. 18:04:51 <DiscordianUK> I just have intel video 18:04:51 <Southern_Gentlem> nirik, yes fixed tuesday 18:04:58 <fenrus02> underscores, he file a bug report? 18:05:33 <underscores> fenrus02: I'm not sure if he knew what that is, tried to help him but he was too fast with "fedora sucks, nothing works here" stuff and dissapeared 18:05:34 <fenrus02> underscores, if he's not willing to register and join #fedora - filing a bug report is likely the best option 18:05:50 <fenrus02> underscores, ah. well, you cannot win them all. _shrugs_ 18:05:55 <nirik> there's also mailing lists and forums and ask to point people at if they don't like irc. 18:06:02 <underscores> ok 18:06:05 <underscores> I will remember that 18:07:32 <nirik> ok, anything else for review, or shall we move on? 18:08:12 <nirik> ok, on to tickets we have one new one: 18:08:15 <nirik> #topic ticket #154 Quieted for non-abrasive comment 18:08:34 <nirik> IMHO, nothing to do here. It was just a quiet for a short time as the channel heat was rising. 18:08:58 <DiscordianUK> i've read the excerpts in the ticket and the quiet was deserved 18:09:04 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/154 18:10:36 <nirik> any other feedback on this one? 18:10:42 <underscores> nirik: I don't understand the point 18:10:47 <EvilBob> Sorry I disconnected because of a phone call 18:10:52 <nirik> of the ticket? or ? 18:11:03 <underscores> nirik: yes what was the problem? that he got thrown out? 18:11:16 <nirik> not even, simply quieted for 15minutes. 18:11:23 <fenrus02> non-issue really 18:11:30 <nirik> right. 18:11:37 <underscores> ok 18:11:42 <fenrus02> he seems a bit trigger happy with tickets. 18:11:45 <fenrus02> attention seeker? 18:11:50 <EvilBob> quieted becuse I was dealing with an issue and the added noise was not needed. 18:12:20 <nirik> well, I have a theory... which is the next topic. ;) 18:12:25 <nirik> if we are done with this one/ 18:12:25 <nirik> ? 18:12:26 <EvilBob> I muted the noise maker so the situation could be handled 18:12:52 <Sonar_Gal> Which was the correct thing to do. 18:13:05 <DiscordianUK> +1 18:13:12 <Sonar_Gal> Looks like a non-issue that was handled correctly and should be passed on 18:13:30 * nirik nods. 18:13:41 <nirik> #topic Change default quiet message 18:13:46 <EvilBob> Any questions for me about why I did it? 18:13:54 <nirik> So, I have seen we have gotten several tickets lately from simple 15m quiets. 18:14:06 <EvilBob> I think I'm still lagging from the disconnect 18:14:07 <nirik> I think this is because the quiet message tells them to file a ticket. 18:14:20 <nirik> EvilBob: I don't have any questions about that. 18:14:21 <fenrus02> EvilBob, nobody has asked or implied they had questions on your action 18:14:37 <nirik> so, I think we should change the default quiet message to drop the ticket thing. 18:14:55 <Sonar_Gal> +1 18:14:56 <nirik> because really, you should never need to file a ticket about a single quiet. It's just 15minutes. Come on. 18:15:04 <fenrus02> nirik, works for me. might want to post here for reference. more fitting for a /kick message imho 18:15:05 <EvilBob> nirik: +1 18:15:07 <DiscordianUK> +1 18:15:13 <N3LRX> I'm ok with that. +1 18:15:15 <nirik> currently we have: 18:15:30 <nirik> You have been quieted in this channel for 15 minutes. Please read the FAQ in the channel topic and consider changing your approach and/or the behavior that is disrupting the channel. If you feel this action was in error, please file a ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/) 18:15:55 <nirik> I'm ok with just dropping the last sentence, or changing it to note that they should take a break 18:16:03 <Southern_Gentlem> drop 18:16:18 <Southern_Gentlem> +1 18:16:33 <EvilBob> nirik: I liked the new version you posted in discussion yesterday 18:16:43 * nirik looks for it. 18:17:01 <nirik> You have been quieted in this channel for 15 minutes. Please read the FAQ in the channel topic and consider changing your approach and/or the behavior that is disrupting the channel. Take a break and consider things. 18:17:04 <EvilBob> Yup 18:17:07 <Sonar_Gal> yes 18:17:08 <fenrus02> +1 18:17:11 <DiscordianUK> +1 to that 18:17:12 <EvilBob> +1 18:17:13 <nirik> it's a bit vuage... but ok. 18:17:15 <Sonar_Gal> +1 18:17:15 <N3LRX> +1 18:17:22 <Southern_Gentlem> +1 18:17:30 <DiscordianUK> I think it's fine 18:17:36 <nirik> alright. 18:17:41 <nirik> we can always adjust it more. 18:17:47 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 18:17:51 <nirik> anyone have items for open floor? 18:18:01 <N3LRX> I have one issue for open floor. 18:18:21 <Southern_Gentlem> #154 that person seems to have an issue anytime a op steps in , they want to start an arguement 18:18:37 <nirik> N3LRX: fire away 18:18:49 <N3LRX> On the #fedora-social FAQ there is a rule about going there to complain about your kick/ban/quiet in #fedora. But there is no such rule on the #fedora FAQ, shouldn't there be one? I noticed this after our little incident with burble the other night. He went running to #fedora to taddle on Bob. 18:19:18 <nirik> yeah, we should add that, IMHO. Point them to a ticket for such issues 18:19:31 <EvilBob> N3LRX: +1 for adding it to the #fedora FAQ 18:20:01 <Southern_Gentlem> at one time there was a statement in the Fedora FAQ about leave stuff from other channel in those channels 18:20:22 <fenrus02> channel hopping to complain is like a tot asking mom first, then asking dad when they dont get the answer they like 18:20:49 <EvilBob> fenrus02: +1 18:21:02 <nirik> yep 18:21:07 * nirik is +1 for adding it 18:21:11 <Sonar_Gal> +1 18:21:16 <DiscordianUK> +1 18:22:23 <N3LRX> OK, I'll get that added this afternoon. I'll forward them to file a ticket or keep it in channel. 18:22:26 <nirik> cool. thanks for bringing that up N3LRX. 18:22:33 <nirik> anything else? 18:23:06 <fenrus02> ta N3LRX 18:23:12 * nirik will close out the meeting in a minute if nothing further. 18:24:47 <nirik> Thanks for coming everyone! 18:24:50 <nirik> #endmeeting

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Fedora ARM Weekly Status Meeting Minutes 2013-07-24
by Paul Whalen 24 Jul '13

24 Jul '13

Thanks to those that were able to join us for the status meeting today, for those unable the minutes are posted below: Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-07-24/fedora-meeting… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-07-24/fedora-meeting… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-07-24/fedora-meeting… =================================================== #fedora-meeting-1: Fedora ARM weekly status meeting =================================================== Meeting summary --------------- * 0) Status of ACTION items from our previous meeting (pwhalen, 20:02:11) * LINK: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-07-17/fedora-meeting… (pwhalen, 20:02:12) * ACTION: dgilmore to setup koji hub&db for aarch64 (pwhalen, 20:03:57) * ACTION: handsome_pirate Is talking to ghc upstream (pwhalen, 20:04:45) * ACTION: msalter is working on openjdk for aarch64 (pwhalen, 20:05:50) * complete, built! (pwhalen, 20:06:03) * ACTION: kylem to create a list of new supported platforms in 3.11 (pwhalen, 20:06:15) * 1) Problem packages (pwhalen, 20:09:46) * java (being worked on) (pwhalen, 20:11:10) * LINK: java: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=985811 (bconoboy, 20:11:15) * python3 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=986713 (pbrobinson, 20:11:56) * redhat-lsb has issues, but is being worked on by its maintainer (bconoboy, 20:13:18) * LINK: glibc is being built with neon, breaking tegra2/olpc: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=985342 (bconoboy, 20:14:43) * 2) Kernel Status Update (pwhalen, 20:20:40) * In 3.11 there is considerable breakage. Tegra is being worked on now. Next is OMAP4. (bconoboy, 20:23:07) * 3a) Aarch64 Status Update, problem packages (pwhalen, 20:27:02) * 11420/13606 packages built, 4832 of them containing aarch64 components. The build queue is currently empty. (bconoboy, 20:29:01) * about 2000 packages remain. These will require requeueing or build fixes. (bconoboy, 20:29:21) * Stage 3 is retired - remove it from /etc/mock/stage4-aarch64.cfg or mock will fail (bconoboy, 20:29:44) * Stage 3 is retired - remove /etc/yum.repos.d/stage3 or yum will produce errors (bconoboy, 20:30:18) * ACTION: bconoboy to start building f19-updates in stage4 (bconoboy, 20:37:50) * 4) Open Floor (pwhalen, 20:42:25) * Utilite support being investigated- check back in 4 weeks (bconoboy, 20:45:13) * mesa built with llvm 3.1 results in gnome-shell working (bconoboy, 20:45:32) * ACTION: kylem now debugging llvm 3.3 mcjit, will then trace gnome-session (bconoboy, 20:47:10) Meeting ended at 20:50:36 UTC. Action Items ------------ * bconoboy to start building f19-updates in stage4 * kylem now debugging llvm 3.3 mcjit, will then trace gnome-session Action Items, by person ----------------------- * bconoboy * bconoboy to start building f19-updates in stage4 * kylem * kylem now debugging llvm 3.3 mcjit, will then trace gnome-session * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * bconoboy (61) * pbrobinson (55) * pwhalen (26) * kylem (21) * dgilmore (13) * handsome_pirate (11) * zodbot (9) * ahs3 (5) * ddd_ (5) * masta (2) * msalter (2) * dmarlin (1) * oatley_ (1) * agreene_ (1) * jcapik1 (1) * jcapik (0) * ctyler (0) * agreene (0) * jonmasters (0)

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2013-07-22 - Fedora QA Meeting - recap
by Adam Williamson 23 Jul '13

23 Jul '13

As always, minutes and IRC transcript available on the wiki at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20130722 Next meeting is scheduled for 2013-07-29 at 1500 UTC in #fedora-meeting: however right now I'm not aware of any topics that need discussing, so it may be canceled. We'll see how things pan out. If you have topics you think we should bring up at the meeting, please add them to the Wiki page at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20130729 . Thanks! TOPIC: Fedora 20 Change review ======================================================================= * Changes/Bluez5[1] needs to be integrated smoothly with KDE 4.11 and GNOME 3.10 at least * GNOME 3.10 is ported to Bluez5 and won't work with Bluez4, but KDE's libbluedevil is not yet ported to Bluez5 and may not be for a month: we would like FESCo to take a hand in dealing with that issue * btrfs-by-default appears to be off the table again for F20 * Changes/AppInstaller[2] may result in us using two depsolvers in official packaging tools * Changes/VisibleCloud[3] will likely require changes to criteria and extra validation testing * Changes/SSD_cache[4] may result in anaconda changes and changes to configuration of deployed systems with SSDs * Changes/SDDMinsteadOfKDM[5] replaces the login manager for KDE (one of the release-blocking desktops) * Changes/Plasma-nm[6] is another KDE change; looks like there's quite a bit of KDE churn for F20, we should probably test it a bit harder than usual * Changes/InstallerLVMThinProvisioningSupport[7] is a moderately significant change to partitioning in the installer * We can look into the question of which Changes we should try and 'validate' once FESCo finishes approving them TOPIC: Open floor ======================================================================= * Fedora 20 schedule[8], tape it to your fridge * First F20 blocker review meeting was scheduled for this Wednesday (07-24): may happen or not depending on how many blockers are proposed Action items ======================================================================= N/A 1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Bluez5 2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AppInstaller 3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/VisibleCloud 4. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SSD_cache 5. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SDDMinsteadOfKDM 6. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Plasma-nm 7. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/InstallerLVMThinProvisioningSupport 8. http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-20/f-20-quality-tasks.html -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net

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Fedora Docs Meeting Summary 22JULY2013
by Pete Travis 22 Jul '13

22 Jul '13

==================================================================================================== #fedora-meeting: Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings ==================================================================================================== Meeting started by randomuser at 14:00:07 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-07-22/fedora_docs.2013… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (randomuser, 14:00:07) * follow up on last week's action items (randomuser, 14:05:52) * Release Notes - Changes coming (randomuser, 14:07:28) * Guide Status (randomuser, 14:17:13) * Guide status - Cloud guide (randomuser, 14:28:34) * ACTION: randomuser to send a mail to docs list about working on the cloud guide (randomuser, 14:30:54) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/cloud/2013-July/002621.html (randomuser, 14:31:32) * Outstanding BZ Tickets (randomuser, 14:36:14) * LINK: http://tinyurl.com/lbrq84 (randomuser, 14:36:20) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=986370 (pbokoc, 14:37:51) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=668549 (randomuser, 14:42:02) * Open floor discussion (randomuser, 14:55:05) Meeting ended at 14:59:14 UTC. Action Items ------------ * randomuser to send a mail to docs list about working on the cloud guide Action Items, by person ----------------------- * randomuser * randomuser to send a mail to docs list about working on the cloud guide * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * randomuser (74) * croberts (20) * pbokoc (13) * jjmcd (9) * Capesteve (5) * zodbot (4) * jhradilek (3) * yruseva (1) * pkovar (1) * lnovich (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- -- Pete Travis - Fedora Docs Project Leader - 'randomuser' on freenode - immanetize(a)fedoraproject.org

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2013-07-15 - Fedora QA Meeting - recap
by Adam Williamson 22 Jul '13

22 Jul '13

As always, minutes and IRC transcript available on the wiki at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20130715 Next meeting is scheduled for 2013-07-22 at 1500 UTC in #fedora-meeting. If you have topics you think we should bring up at the meeting, please add them to the Wiki page at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20130722 . Thanks! TOPIC: ARM as a primary arch ======================================================================= * handsome_pirate has been trying to get ARM to mirror the QA process * Architectures/ARM/qa-machines[1] lists remotely-accessible machines available for testing purposes * There are issues with running autotest on ARM hosts on Fedora 18: we agreed that automated testing on ARM should not blocker primary arch elevation as we are not enforcing the tests yet * QA does not see any definite roadblocks to ARM becoming a primary arch for F20, but expects that minor changes will be needed to the release criteria to define the ARM 'release blocking images' and assistance will be needed from ARM-focused testers to complete ARM validation testing TOPIC: Fedora 20 Change review ======================================================================= * Tabled until next week due to lack of time TOPIC: Open floor ======================================================================= N/A Action items ======================================================================= N/A 1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/qa-machines -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net

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